Red State Rush

[XponentialChaos]

Texas and Florida aren't all that affordable these days. Depends on where you are going to, I guess.

Looks like it has gotten more expensive everywhere, magnifying the gap in prices.

 

[XponentialChaos]

The economy IS political.

if someone moves from California to Texas because houses are cheaper, then how is this a political decision? Walk me through that one.

 

[XponentialChaos]

They are moving because everything is more affordable.

Yes.

 

[Foxfyre]

if someone moves from California to Texas because houses are cheaper, then how is this a political decision? Walk me through that one.

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The reason houses are so much more expensive in California is partly due to supply vs demand, but also because of wage/hour/union rules, laws, policy, environmental policy, taxes on land and building supplies etc., all of which are driven by politics.

 

[XponentialChaos]

The reason houses are so much more expensive in California is partly due to supply vs demand, but also because of wage/hour/union rules, laws, policy, environmental policy, taxes on land and building supplies etc., all of which are driven by politics.

If people are willing to buy houses at $X, then that is what they will sell for.

The unions, laws, environmental policies, etc. aren’t going to change that. Consumers have choice. They can choose to pay more to live in California or they can choose to live in Texas and pay less.

I can choose to purchase a Ferrari or I can choose to purchase a Ford. Is that a political decision too?

 

[marvin martian]

if someone moves from California to Texas because houses are cheaper, then how is this a political decision? Walk me through that one.

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Stay in your blue shithole. Please.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Stay in your blue shithole. Please.

You mean the blue shithole that people are willing to pay more to be in? That blue shithole?

 

[80zephyr]

They have gone higher.

With house prices skyrocketing, get priced out and move out-of-state. It’s not complicated.

Golden State tarnished: Ex-pats reveal ‘why we left California for good’

With the Golden State losing more residents than it’s gaining, some expats reveal why they fled: from prices to politics to pomposity.

nypost.com

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Dont think think you might be leaving out a couple other issues that are driving this exodus?

Weather?

People seem to be moving south

 

[Godboy]

Don’t you think that housing prices might be a reason for someone moving out of state?

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Those postings were from YEARS ago. I recognize the one on the right. It is often used as the model for high prices in California. People use that house on YouTube to compare housing prices in various other countries.

 

[marvin martian]

You mean the blue shithole that people are willing to pay more to be in? That blue shithole?

Yes, dumb people like you.

 

[Foxfyre]

If people are willing to buy houses at $X, then that is what they will sell for.

The unions, laws, environmental policies, etc. aren’t going to change that. Consumers have choice. They can choose to pay more to live in California or they can choose to live in Texas and pay less.

I can choose to purchase a Ferrari or I can choose to purchase a Ford. Is that a political decision too?

It becomes a political decision when they put enough expense, mandates, restrictions on automobiles that your choices become more and more limited. It becomes a political decision when you are forced to buy an ev instead of an suv. It is a political decision when taxes, rules, regulations make where you would prefer to live too expensive so that you are forced to live someplace you wouldn't have otherwise chosen.

 

[Unkotare]

Face it Democrats, they're just not into high taxes, crime and your crap.

Hopefully they won't go there and vote for the things that made them flee

Red state rush: Republican states saw 2022 migration boom

State to State Migration Red state rush: Republican states saw 2022 migration boom By Zachary Halaschak, Economics Reporter January 31, 2023 04:00 AM

www.washingtonexaminer.com

You know they will.

 

[candycorn]

National parks and the pacific? Why didn't you move to California/Oregon/Washington then?

My job was in Phoenix?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Those postings were from YEARS ago.

So let’s look at what they’re valued at now.

1219 N Willow Ave, Compton, CA 90221 | Zillow

1219 N Willow Ave, Compton CA, is a Single Family home that contains 1042 sq ft and was built in 1938.It contains 3 bedrooms and 1 bathroom.This home last sold for $450,000 in December 2019. The Zestimate for this Single Family is $609,800, which has increased by $760 in the last 30 days.The...

www.zillow.com

1037 White Bluff Dr, Whitney, TX 76692 | Zillow

1037 White Bluff Dr, Whitney TX, is a Single Family home that contains 3592 sq ft and was built in 2005.It contains 4 bedrooms and 4 bathrooms. The Zestimate for this Single Family is $559,100, which has decreased by $800 in the last 30 days.The Rent Zestimate for this Single Family is...

www.zillow.com

According to Zillow, the California house valued at $573,000. Texas house valued at $559,000.

Thanks for making my point for me.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Yes, dumb people like you.

More than 6 million Californians voted for Trump in 2020. Are they dumb?

 

[XponentialChaos]

It becomes a political decision when they put enough expense, mandates, restrictions on automobiles that your choices become more and more limited. It becomes a political decision when you are forced to buy an ev instead of an suv.

And despite all of that, they still have a choice now don’t they? Nobody is forcing anyone to live in California.

Your argument feels like you’re trying to mash two puzzle pieces together when they don’t actually fit.

People make financial decisions based on price. I choose not to have a $500 steak dinner tonight because I don’t want to pay that much. My decision isn’t political. Not complicated. No mangled puzzle pieces necessary.

 

[Foxfyre]

And despite all of that, they still have a choice now don’t they? Nobody is forcing anyone to live in California.

Your argument feels like you’re trying to mash two puzzle pieces together when they don’t actually fit.

People make financial decisions based on price. I choose not to have a $500 steak dinner tonight because I don’t want to pay that much. My decision isn’t political. Not complicated. No mangled puzzle pieces necessary.

My argument was simply to explain that often people leave one state for another for political reasons. This thread is about migration of citizens from one state to another.

 

[XponentialChaos]

My argument was simply to explain that often people leave one state for another for political reasons.

And sometimes they leave for financial reasons, obviously. (See post #55)

There’s no need to try to conflate the two.

 

[Foxfyre]

And sometimes they leave for financial reasons, obviously. (See post #55)

There’s no need to try to conflate the two.

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There's no reason to deny that politics creates or affects many aspects of the economy either.