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'Red mirage': the 'insidious' scenario if Trump declares an early victory

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It's going to be a shit show to be sure. I pray Florida has their shit together this time.
It’s not just Florida.

It’s PA more likely to screw things up:

“Pennsylvania's elections chief pleaded with county leaders Friday to make sure they start counting mail-in ballots the morning of Election Day, rather than waiting until the next day to begin the crucial tally.”


At least Florida has already started counting mail in ballots.

We need a consistent set of election laws nationally covering at least the basic issues. In Wisconsin it is estimated that as many as 100,000 people were disenfranchised thanks to a last minute decision by SCOTUS overturning state law allowing an extra week for mail-in ballots to be counted as long as they are postmarked in time.

Idiot justice Bart O'Kavanaugh wrote that doing this could "flip" the election. You don't "flip" an election you moron. You count the fucking VOTES! It should be noted that in 2000, the Bush v Gore Scalia opinion stated that it should not be used as precedent. And that's exactly what Bart did in his opinion.

Its a bit of a shock that this is not the case. As a minimum those who have voted should have their votes counted. That is pretty basic stuff.
I am guessing that your constitution and processes were not designed to manage a crook like trump. he tests the boundaries of the acceptable in so many ways and his chimp posse supports him in his criminality.
/——/ How is the president a crook?
He committed a federal offense by not paying $300 million dollars in federal taxes. He stole millions from a charity that was supposed to go to children with cancer, and got fined for that crime. Would you like for me to continue?
What 300 million dollars are you talking about?
Don't you know anything? Trump’s Taxes Show Chronic Losses and Years of Income Tax Avoidance

Did you expect a business that Trump owns to pay taxes on income that doesn't exist? When one has losses...one doesn't pay taxes. If you weren't clueless about taxes you'd already know that. I take it you've never paid them?
 

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It's going to be a shit show to be sure. I pray Florida has their shit together this time.
It’s not just Florida.

It’s PA more likely to screw things up:

“Pennsylvania's elections chief pleaded with county leaders Friday to make sure they start counting mail-in ballots the morning of Election Day, rather than waiting until the next day to begin the crucial tally.”


At least Florida has already started counting mail in ballots.

We need a consistent set of election laws nationally covering at least the basic issues. In Wisconsin it is estimated that as many as 100,000 people were disenfranchised thanks to a last minute decision by SCOTUS overturning state law allowing an extra week for mail-in ballots to be counted as long as they are postmarked in time.

Idiot justice Bart O'Kavanaugh wrote that doing this could "flip" the election. You don't "flip" an election you moron. You count the fucking VOTES! It should be noted that in 2000, the Bush v Gore Scalia opinion stated that it should not be used as precedent. And that's exactly what Bart did in his opinion.

Its a bit of a shock that this is not the case. As a minimum those who have voted should have their votes counted. That is pretty basic stuff.
I am guessing that your constitution and processes were not designed to manage a crook like trump. he tests the boundaries of the acceptable in so many ways and his chimp posse supports him in his criminality.
/——/ How is the president a crook?
He committed a federal offense by not paying $300 million dollars in federal taxes. He stole millions from a charity that was supposed to go to children with cancer, and got fined for that crime. Would you like for me to continue?
What 300 million dollars are you talking about?
Don't you know anything? Trump’s Taxes Show Chronic Losses and Years of Income Tax Avoidance

Did you expect a business that Trump owns to pay taxes on income that doesn't exist? When one has losses...one doesn't pay taxes. If you weren't clueless about taxes you'd already know that. I take it you've never paid them?
/——/ He knows how losses affect taxes. He’s just repeating the narrative like a good little bot.
 

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It's going to be a shit show to be sure. I pray Florida has their shit together this time.
It’s not just Florida.

It’s PA more likely to screw things up:

“Pennsylvania's elections chief pleaded with county leaders Friday to make sure they start counting mail-in ballots the morning of Election Day, rather than waiting until the next day to begin the crucial tally.”


At least Florida has already started counting mail in ballots.

We need a consistent set of election laws nationally covering at least the basic issues. In Wisconsin it is estimated that as many as 100,000 people were disenfranchised thanks to a last minute decision by SCOTUS overturning state law allowing an extra week for mail-in ballots to be counted as long as they are postmarked in time.

Idiot justice Bart O'Kavanaugh wrote that doing this could "flip" the election. You don't "flip" an election you moron. You count the fucking VOTES! It should be noted that in 2000, the Bush v Gore Scalia opinion stated that it should not be used as precedent. And that's exactly what Bart did in his opinion.

Its a bit of a shock that this is not the case. As a minimum those who have voted should have their votes counted. That is pretty basic stuff.
I am guessing that your constitution and processes were not designed to manage a crook like trump. he tests the boundaries of the acceptable in so many ways and his chimp posse supports him in his criminality.
/——/ How is the president a crook?
He committed a federal offense by not paying $300 million dollars in federal taxes. He stole millions from a charity that was supposed to go to children with cancer, and got fined for that crime. Would you like for me to continue?
What 300 million dollars are you talking about?
Don't you know anything? Trump’s Taxes Show Chronic Losses and Years of Income Tax Avoidance

" While the Times did not make any direct allegations of tax evasion..."

Did you want to provide a concrete example of something illegal that Trump has done with his taxes or did you want to waste my time with "allegations" backed up with nothing?
/——/ There is an old adage in politics, if you can’t find dirt on your opponent, give him something to deny.
 

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It's going to be a shit show to be sure. I pray Florida has their shit together this time.
It’s not just Florida.

It’s PA more likely to screw things up:

“Pennsylvania's elections chief pleaded with county leaders Friday to make sure they start counting mail-in ballots the morning of Election Day, rather than waiting until the next day to begin the crucial tally.”


At least Florida has already started counting mail in ballots.

We need a consistent set of election laws nationally covering at least the basic issues. In Wisconsin it is estimated that as many as 100,000 people were disenfranchised thanks to a last minute decision by SCOTUS overturning state law allowing an extra week for mail-in ballots to be counted as long as they are postmarked in time.

Idiot justice Bart O'Kavanaugh wrote that doing this could "flip" the election. You don't "flip" an election you moron. You count the fucking VOTES! It should be noted that in 2000, the Bush v Gore Scalia opinion stated that it should not be used as precedent. And that's exactly what Bart did in his opinion.

Its a bit of a shock that this is not the case. As a minimum those who have voted should have their votes counted. That is pretty basic stuff.
I am guessing that your constitution and processes were not designed to manage a crook like trump. he tests the boundaries of the acceptable in so many ways and his chimp posse supports him in his criminality.
/——/ How is the president a crook?
He committed a federal offense by not paying $300 million dollars in federal taxes. He stole millions from a charity that was supposed to go to children with cancer, and got fined for that crime. Would you like for me to continue?
What 300 million dollars are you talking about?
Don't you know anything? Trump’s Taxes Show Chronic Losses and Years of Income Tax Avoidance

" While the Times did not make any direct allegations of tax evasion..."

Did you want to provide a concrete example of something illegal that Trump has done with his taxes or did you want to waste my time with "allegations" backed up with nothing?
FBI documents point to Trump role in hush money for porn star Daniels Cohen went to jail for a crime he and Trump committed.
 

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It's going to be a shit show to be sure. I pray Florida has their shit together this time.
It’s not just Florida.

It’s PA more likely to screw things up:

“Pennsylvania's elections chief pleaded with county leaders Friday to make sure they start counting mail-in ballots the morning of Election Day, rather than waiting until the next day to begin the crucial tally.”


At least Florida has already started counting mail in ballots.

We need a consistent set of election laws nationally covering at least the basic issues. In Wisconsin it is estimated that as many as 100,000 people were disenfranchised thanks to a last minute decision by SCOTUS overturning state law allowing an extra week for mail-in ballots to be counted as long as they are postmarked in time.

Idiot justice Bart O'Kavanaugh wrote that doing this could "flip" the election. You don't "flip" an election you moron. You count the fucking VOTES! It should be noted that in 2000, the Bush v Gore Scalia opinion stated that it should not be used as precedent. And that's exactly what Bart did in his opinion.

Its a bit of a shock that this is not the case. As a minimum those who have voted should have their votes counted. That is pretty basic stuff.
I am guessing that your constitution and processes were not designed to manage a crook like trump. he tests the boundaries of the acceptable in so many ways and his chimp posse supports him in his criminality.
/——/ How is the president a crook?
He committed a federal offense by not paying $300 million dollars in federal taxes. He stole millions from a charity that was supposed to go to children with cancer, and got fined for that crime. Would you like for me to continue?
/——/ You don’t know how much Trump paid in taxes. And the charity was 100% legit. His tax form wouldn’t put their name on fraudulent returns and the IRS snd NY State Dept of Taxation keeps a close watch on him. You’re just blowing smoke.
You must no be cognitive enough to read? Donald J. Trump Pays Court-Ordered $2 Million For Illegally Using Trump Foundation Funds | New York State Attorney General Trump and his family were kicked out of the charity business. They're proven criminals.

They don't care about Donald's immorality or amorality. Or they'll tell you that these things never happened. The 135 grand in hush money to Stormy just before the last election constituting campaign the finance reform that Michael Cohen went to jail for? Bah. Trump Foundation? Never happened. Openly asking for, receiving and utilizing for dirt from a hostile foreign nation on one's political opponent? Meh, that's just politics.

The Access Hollywood Tape - Either they don't care or that was an impersonator. The successful $35,000 bribe to Pam Bondi in Florida to drop the Trump University investigation? Phhhtt. The 25 million dollar Trump University settlement? Liberal college kids with an agenda.

You can go on and on and on and ON - Cultists either don't give a rat's ass, or it didn't happen. Sad :confused:
They only care about all that stuff if a Democrat does it. They lack most qualities for human beings, which human beings would expect them to have. No empathy, they are soulless, they have no principles, they are dishonest, no self respect, no decency, they are generally hateful, racist, homophobic, and could care less for their fellow man, while calling themselves Christians. They are the embodiment for hypocrites.
Amazing how those those very same conservatives give more to charity than their liberal opposition, BWK! We give OUR money to those who are less fortunate than us...you liberals always give someone ELSES money to the less fortunate...after you've taken a little for yourself of course! The Clinton Foundation wasn't set up to help the poor and downtrodden...it was set up to finance Hillary Clinton's political campaigns!
Needless to say you're lying, because you have nothing to back up your claims. Republicans are takers, not givers. They granted themselves a two trillion dollar tax cut that the tax payer has to pay back.
I'm always amused by liberals that don't grasp how taxation works. Any time that a tax cut is put through it simply means that tax payers pay less money...it doesn't mean that they owe that money! Duh?
You have zero understanding of taxes; Who Benefited Most From the Trump Tax Cuts? | Policygenius
 

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you are the piece of shit....all you scum from the demonrats lie, deflect, deny....when you get a reliable source that tells TRUTH, get back to me
The problem with you is, you got caught lying ass hole.
 

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It's going to be a shit show to be sure. I pray Florida has their shit together this time.
It’s not just Florida.

It’s PA more likely to screw things up:

“Pennsylvania's elections chief pleaded with county leaders Friday to make sure they start counting mail-in ballots the morning of Election Day, rather than waiting until the next day to begin the crucial tally.”


At least Florida has already started counting mail in ballots.

We need a consistent set of election laws nationally covering at least the basic issues. In Wisconsin it is estimated that as many as 100,000 people were disenfranchised thanks to a last minute decision by SCOTUS overturning state law allowing an extra week for mail-in ballots to be counted as long as they are postmarked in time.

Idiot justice Bart O'Kavanaugh wrote that doing this could "flip" the election. You don't "flip" an election you moron. You count the fucking VOTES! It should be noted that in 2000, the Bush v Gore Scalia opinion stated that it should not be used as precedent. And that's exactly what Bart did in his opinion.

Its a bit of a shock that this is not the case. As a minimum those who have voted should have their votes counted. That is pretty basic stuff.
I am guessing that your constitution and processes were not designed to manage a crook like trump. he tests the boundaries of the acceptable in so many ways and his chimp posse supports him in his criminality.
/——/ How is the president a crook?
He committed a federal offense by not paying $300 million dollars in federal taxes. He stole millions from a charity that was supposed to go to children with cancer, and got fined for that crime. Would you like for me to continue?
/——/ You don’t know how much Trump paid in taxes. And the charity was 100% legit. His tax form wouldn’t put their name on fraudulent returns and the IRS snd NY State Dept of Taxation keeps a close watch on him. You’re just blowing smoke.
You must no be cognitive enough to read? Donald J. Trump Pays Court-Ordered $2 Million For Illegally Using Trump Foundation Funds | New York State Attorney General Trump and his family were kicked out of the charity business. They're proven criminals.

They don't care about Donald's immorality or amorality. Or they'll tell you that these things never happened. The 135 grand in hush money to Stormy just before the last election constituting campaign the finance reform that Michael Cohen went to jail for? Bah. Trump Foundation? Never happened. Openly asking for, receiving and utilizing for dirt from a hostile foreign nation on one's political opponent? Meh, that's just politics.

The Access Hollywood Tape - Either they don't care or that was an impersonator. The successful $35,000 bribe to Pam Bondi in Florida to drop the Trump University investigation? Phhhtt. The 25 million dollar Trump University settlement? Liberal college kids with an agenda.

You can go on and on and on and ON - Cultists either don't give a rat's ass, or it didn't happen. Sad :confused:
They only care about all that stuff if a Democrat does it. They lack most qualities for human beings, which human beings would expect them to have. No empathy, they are soulless, they have no principles, they are dishonest, no self respect, no decency, they are generally hateful, racist, homophobic, and could care less for their fellow man, while calling themselves Christians. They are the embodiment for hypocrites.
Amazing how those those very same conservatives give more to charity than their liberal opposition, BWK! We give OUR money to those who are less fortunate than us...you liberals always give someone ELSES money to the less fortunate...after you've taken a little for yourself of course! The Clinton Foundation wasn't set up to help the poor and downtrodden...it was set up to finance Hillary Clinton's political campaigns!
Needless to say you're lying, because you have nothing to back up your claims. Republicans are takers, not givers. They granted themselves a two trillion dollar tax cut that the tax payer has to pay back.
I'm always amused by liberals that don't grasp how taxation works. Any time that a tax cut is put through it simply means that tax payers pay less money...it doesn't mean that they owe that money! Duh?
You have zero understanding of taxes; Who Benefited Most From the Trump Tax Cuts? | Policygenius
Every time that a liberal tries to explain economics to me, BWK it never ends up well for them. Since the Trump Tax Cuts gave us some of the lowest unemployment numbers ever recorded amongst black and Hispanic workers it's hard to see how THEY didn't benefit the most from those tax cuts!
 

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Known as the “red mirage”, the scenario could develop if Trump appears to be leading in the presidential race late on election night and declares victory before all the votes are counted.

The red mirage “sounds like a super-villain, and it’s just as insidious”, the former Obama administration housing secretary Julían Castro says in a video recorded as a public service announcement to voters this week.

“On election night, there’s a real possibility that the data will show Republicans leading early, before all the votes are counted. Then they can pretend something sinister’s going on when the counts change in Democrats’ favor.”


In the scenario, Trump’s declaration of victory is echoed on the conservative TV network Fox News and by powerful Republicans across the US. By the time final returns show that in fact Joe Biden has won the presidency, perhaps days later, the true election result has been dragged into a maelstrom of disinformation and chaos.

At which point the various armed biker gangs take to the streets in order to support the attempted coup. Is Trump that crazy ?
Insidious I tell you! Insidious! On my 57 Panhead, at this moment, riding the storm! From Maryland to Atlanta!! The Republicans are coming! The Republicans are coming!

Man your battlements! Arm yourself. Fight!

Fight!

Fight!

The bikers are raping, robbing and pillaging!

Hide your women and children. Hide your drugs, but most of all!!!! Hide your beer!

That is all.
 

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I think the Dems are already starting their the election was stolen from them BS. They do it over and over and over again.
Trump is already whining, which makes no sense because he trails in declared electoral votes at present - Biden/Harris 227 Trump/Pence 214 - so why would he want to cancel the votes of Americans at tjos point rather than count them all?

If he is determined to win, legitimately or illegitimately, he should not be whining yet.
 
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I told ya he would do it. What a melt this fellow is.
 

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I told ya he would do it. What a melt this fellow is.


I know you miss the good old days, when country club republicans would just roll over and play dead while letting you leftards do whatever you wanted.


Hint: That is one of the primary reasons we support Trump. He fights, you cuck.
 

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Known as the “red mirage”, the scenario could develop if Trump appears to be leading in the presidential race late on election night and declares victory before all the votes are counted.

The red mirage “sounds like a super-villain, and it’s just as insidious”, the former Obama administration housing secretary Julían Castro says in a video recorded as a public service announcement to voters this week.

“On election night, there’s a real possibility that the data will show Republicans leading early, before all the votes are counted. Then they can pretend something sinister’s going on when the counts change in Democrats’ favor.”


In the scenario, Trump’s declaration of victory is echoed on the conservative TV network Fox News and by powerful Republicans across the US. By the time final returns show that in fact Joe Biden has won the presidency, perhaps days later, the true election result has been dragged into a maelstrom of disinformation and chaos.

At which point the various armed biker gangs take to the streets in order to support the attempted coup. Is Trump that crazy ?

More whinning from the shitforbrains Brit.
 

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I told ya he would do it. What a melt this fellow is.


I know you miss the good old days, when country club republicans would just roll over and play dead while letting you leftards do whatever you wanted.


Hint: That is one of the primary reasons we support Trump. He fights, you cuck.

Tommy better hope we never meet in person.
 
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How is it possible to win an election before the votes have been counted ?
 

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Known as the “red mirage”, the scenario could develop if Trump appears to be leading in the presidential race late on election night and declares victory before all the votes are counted.

The red mirage “sounds like a super-villain, and it’s just as insidious”, the former Obama administration housing secretary Julían Castro says in a video recorded as a public service announcement to voters this week.

“On election night, there’s a real possibility that the data will show Republicans leading early, before all the votes are counted. Then they can pretend something sinister’s going on when the counts change in Democrats’ favor.”


In the scenario, Trump’s declaration of victory is echoed on the conservative TV network Fox News and by powerful Republicans across the US. By the time final returns show that in fact Joe Biden has won the presidency, perhaps days later, the true election result has been dragged into a maelstrom of disinformation and chaos.

At which point the various armed biker gangs take to the streets in order to support the attempted coup. Is Trump that crazy ?

Well, we haven't seen the biker gangs (yet), but everything else checks out.
 
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Known as the “red mirage”, the scenario could develop if Trump appears to be leading in the presidential race late on election night and declares victory before all the votes are counted.

The red mirage “sounds like a super-villain, and it’s just as insidious”, the former Obama administration housing secretary Julían Castro says in a video recorded as a public service announcement to voters this week.

“On election night, there’s a real possibility that the data will show Republicans leading early, before all the votes are counted. Then they can pretend something sinister’s going on when the counts change in Democrats’ favor.”


In the scenario, Trump’s declaration of victory is echoed on the conservative TV network Fox News and by powerful Republicans across the US. By the time final returns show that in fact Joe Biden has won the presidency, perhaps days later, the true election result has been dragged into a maelstrom of disinformation and chaos.

At which point the various armed biker gangs take to the streets in order to support the attempted coup. Is Trump that crazy ?

Well, we haven't seen the biker gangs (yet), but everything else checks out.
It sounds like the more sensible voices in his party are not impressed with his antics. maybe it will go off without any nastiness.
 

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Known as the “red mirage”, the scenario could develop if Trump appears to be leading in the presidential race late on election night and declares victory before all the votes are counted.

The red mirage “sounds like a super-villain, and it’s just as insidious”, the former Obama administration housing secretary Julían Castro says in a video recorded as a public service announcement to voters this week.

“On election night, there’s a real possibility that the data will show Republicans leading early, before all the votes are counted. Then they can pretend something sinister’s going on when the counts change in Democrats’ favor.”


In the scenario, Trump’s declaration of victory is echoed on the conservative TV network Fox News and by powerful Republicans across the US. By the time final returns show that in fact Joe Biden has won the presidency, perhaps days later, the true election result has been dragged into a maelstrom of disinformation and chaos.

At which point the various armed biker gangs take to the streets in order to support the attempted coup. Is Trump that crazy ?

Well, we haven't seen the biker gangs (yet), but everything else checks out.
It sounds like the more sensible voices in his party are not impressed with his antics. maybe it will go off without any nastiness.
I think they see keeping the Senate, and getting rid of Trump, as a best-case scenario for Republicans.
 

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