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Robbery has nothing to do with providing equal opportunity.
Depends how you define robbery, isn't it?
The wealthy are wealthy because of their "robbery".
When the poor steal, it's called "crime".
When the rich steal, it's called "Profits".
When the government steals, it's called "Social Policy".
Depends if you define robbery using the communist manifesto or through the actual dictionary. Profit is stealing only in a communist world where idiots want to suck of the successful.
Depends how you define robbery, isn't it?
The wealthy are wealthy because of their "robbery".
When the poor steal, it's called "crime".
When the rich steal, it's called "Profits".
When the government steals, it's called "Social Policy".
Depends if you define robbery using the communist manifesto or through the actual dictionary. Profit is stealing only in a communist world where idiots want to suck of the successful.
First, it's hard to have a conversation with someone who can't tell the difference between "of" and "off".
Second, who is exactly sucking off who here? When the shareholders of my company cash in their dividends, did they actually make the product? Or was it some poor slave wage here in America who lives in fear that her job is going to be outsourced to some poorer wage slave in China?
Exactly what we should do is go back to the day where people just lived on the land with the housing and food provided to them by their land owners. That seems to be what you desire? Please tell how you would create your wonderful world? Shareholders made their money then invested it in a company providing that company capital to operate. A lot of workers own shares in the company they work for so in that case they are wage slaves to themselves.
I tend to watch Fox news to keep up with what the Republicans are saying and today Hannity had an old video about Obama talking about redistribution of income to give people a shot. They went off on this about Obama being a socialist.
He may or may not be a socialist..... but since when is looking to provide equal opportunity a socialist ideal and anti-American.
Depends how you define robbery, isn't it?
The wealthy are wealthy because of their "robbery".
When the poor steal, it's called "crime".
When the rich steal, it's called "Profits".
When the government steals, it's called "Social Policy".
Depends if you define robbery using the communist manifesto or through the actual dictionary. Profit is stealing only in a communist world where idiots want to suck of the successful.
First, it's hard to have a conversation with someone who can't tell the difference between "of" and "off".
Second, who is exactly sucking off who here? When the shareholders of my company cash in their dividends, did they actually make the product? Or was it some poor slave wage here in America who lives in fear that her job is going to be outsourced to some poorer wage slave in China?
Depends if you define robbery using the communist manifesto or through the actual dictionary. Profit is stealing only in a communist world where idiots want to suck of the successful.
First, it's hard to have a conversation with someone who can't tell the difference between "of" and "off".
Second, who is exactly sucking off who here? When the shareholders of my company cash in their dividends, did they actually make the product? Or was it some poor slave wage here in America who lives in fear that her job is going to be outsourced to some poorer wage slave in China?
She wouldn't have a job if not for the share holders,We let people like this run things,we will be back to chasing our food with sharp sticks.
Exactly what we should do is go back to the day where people just lived on the land with the housing and food provided to them by their land owners. That seems to be what you desire? Please tell how you would create your wonderful world? Shareholders made their money then invested it in a company providing that company capital to operate. A lot of workers own shares in the company they work for so in that case they are wage slaves to themselves.
Oh, how about doing what we did as recently as the 1950's.
33% of the workforce was unionized, most of the rest were paid a fair wage, the minimum wage actually meant something and trade laws protected our industries.
The wealthy paid their fair share. Under that Commie Eisenhower, the top marginal rate was 93%. Oh, yeah, Ike wasn't a commie, he was a Republican.
I tend to watch Fox news to keep up with what the Republicans are saying and today Hannity had an old video about Obama talking about redistribution of income to give people a shot. They went off on this about Obama being a socialist.
He may or may not be a socialist..... but since when is looking to provide equal opportunity a socialist ideal and anti-American. From Land Grant colleges to public education our founding fathers have been clear about the value of income redistribution for the purposes of providing people a shot at the American dream.
Many people are against trying to provide equal results. I am aligned with this thought and would happily end Social Security. But almost eveyone supports redistribution to provide equal opportunity. Have Republicans become so blind in their hatred of Obama they have lost their minds????
If you are all against redistribution for the purposes of equal opportunity it is not suprising you are getting your ass kicked in the current re-election. You guys have gone so far from the mainstream that only a minority can support the current Republican Party. Even our founding fathers would not support you morons.
It's a sad fuckin day when "redistribution for the purposes of equal opportunity" is "mainstream".
Thank the good lord my grand daddy didn't live to see the day.
Our founding fathers certainly would not want what you are selling. The escaped that to come to Amercica and they certainly would not want to re-create a world of serfdom.
True Story: I had a lady with one child (Single Mom) who came to work for me part time. I offered her a full time position as soon as I could justify the increased payroll.
Want to know what she said to me? She said, "No Thanks, I need to keep my income below (not sure of the $$$ amount) so that I can get my earned income tax check at the end of the year".
She had and "equal opportunity", instead she decided to "redistribute" some working persons money into her pocket......why? Because she was too damn lazy to work!
and this is what you idiots want to reward?
I tend to watch Fox news to keep up with what the Republicans are saying and today Hannity had an old video about Obama talking about redistribution of income to give people a shot. They went off on this about Obama being a socialist.
He may or may not be a socialist..... but since when is looking to provide equal opportunity a socialist ideal and anti-American. From Land Grant colleges to public education our founding fathers have been clear about the value of income redistribution for the purposes of providing people a shot at the American dream.
Many people are against trying to provide equal results. I am aligned with this thought and would happily end Social Security. But almost eveyone supports redistribution to provide equal opportunity. Have Republicans become so blind in their hatred of Obama they have lost their minds????
Exactly what we should do is go back to the day where people just lived on the land with the housing and food provided to them by their land owners. That seems to be what you desire? Please tell how you would create your wonderful world? Shareholders made their money then invested it in a company providing that company capital to operate. A lot of workers own shares in the company they work for so in that case they are wage slaves to themselves.
Oh, how about doing what we did as recently as the 1950's.
33% of the workforce was unionized, most of the rest were paid a fair wage, the minimum wage actually meant something and trade laws protected our industries.
The wealthy paid their fair share. Under that Commie Eisenhower, the top marginal rate was 93%. Oh, yeah, Ike wasn't a commie, he was a Republican.
You do realize that the middle class tax rate then was way higher than it is now. You also realize at that time the rich paid on average 23% in taxes and the only person that would pay the 93% would have been someone making about 2,000,000. That also did not count stock options. So it sounds big but really it wasnt. As far as the wonderful days of 33% unionized that and the technological advancements that made it easier to travel and communicate with other countries is what drove companies outside of this country. I know this is going to be hard to understand but circumstances change so unless you plan on moving everything back to those days you need to come up with a new plan.
Oh, how about doing what we did as recently as the 1950's.
33% of the workforce was unionized, most of the rest were paid a fair wage, the minimum wage actually meant something and trade laws protected our industries.
The wealthy paid their fair share. Under that Commie Eisenhower, the top marginal rate was 93%. Oh, yeah, Ike wasn't a commie, he was a Republican.
You do realize that the middle class tax rate then was way higher than it is now. You also realize at that time the rich paid on average 23% in taxes and the only person that would pay the 93% would have been someone making about 2,000,000. That also did not count stock options. So it sounds big but really it wasnt. As far as the wonderful days of 33% unionized that and the technological advancements that made it easier to travel and communicate with other countries is what drove companies outside of this country. I know this is going to be hard to understand but circumstances change so unless you plan on moving everything back to those days you need to come up with a new plan.
I have a great plan.
Government doesn't give a fuck what millionaires wants, and cares about working folks.
Great Plan.
Worked for us for years.
Joe thinks millionaires don't work. <snicker>
I tend to watch Fox news to keep up with what the Republicans are saying and today Hannity had an old video about Obama talking about redistribution of income to give people a shot. They went off on this about Obama being a socialist.
He may or may not be a socialist..... but since when is looking to provide equal opportunity a socialist ideal and anti-American. From Land Grant colleges to public education our founding fathers have been clear about the value of income redistribution for the purposes of providing people a shot at the American dream.
Many people are against trying to provide equal results. I am aligned with this thought and would happily end Social Security. But almost eveyone supports redistribution to provide equal opportunity. Have Republicans become so blind in their hatred of Obama they have lost their minds????
Joe thinks millionaires don't work. <snicker>
Well, I keep seeing these shows about their Yachts and their race cars and their mansions and their golf games, so yeah, I'd have to say I don't think they work that much.
Oh, how about doing what we did as recently as the 1950's.
33% of the workforce was unionized, most of the rest were paid a fair wage, the minimum wage actually meant something and trade laws protected our industries.
The wealthy paid their fair share. Under that Commie Eisenhower, the top marginal rate was 93%. Oh, yeah, Ike wasn't a commie, he was a Republican.
You do realize that the middle class tax rate then was way higher than it is now. You also realize at that time the rich paid on average 23% in taxes and the only person that would pay the 93% would have been someone making about 2,000,000. That also did not count stock options. So it sounds big but really it wasnt. As far as the wonderful days of 33% unionized that and the technological advancements that made it easier to travel and communicate with other countries is what drove companies outside of this country. I know this is going to be hard to understand but circumstances change so unless you plan on moving everything back to those days you need to come up with a new plan.
I have a great plan.
Government doesn't give a fuck what millionaires wants, and cares about working folks.
Great Plan.
Worked for us for years.
