Really, how will obama run for re-election?

[rightwinger]

Uh, we don't have just two candidates steel trap brain, and Romney certainly is a RINO.

Care to name them? Who else is electable? Bachmann?

Pawlenty, Santorum, etc etc - do they broadcast news where you are??

Santorum is not even worth discussion. He is polling at 1% proving that even republicans are not that dumb

Pawlenty is one of the non-nut jobs. However, his campaign is hanging by a thread. Barring a miracle....he will fizzle out quickly

 

[NYcarbineer]

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A lot of people nobody ever heard of - tea partiers who've never even been in politics, took over the House in 2010, and would have taken over the senate - leftwingers were REALLY lucky that only a third of the senators were up for re-election.

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Uh, you seem to quietly revising history. The GOP lost its chance to win the Senate because a bunch of tea party kooks like Sharron Angle got nominated and couldn't win the general.

 

[Stephanie]

[
A lot of people nobody ever heard of - tea partiers who've never even been in politics, took over the House in 2010, and would have taken over the senate - leftwingers were REALLY lucky that only a third of the senators were up for re-election.

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Uh, you seem to quietly revising history. The GOP lost its chance to win the Senate because a bunch of tea party kooks like Sharron Angle got nominated and couldn't win the general.

You know what...Everyday NORMAL people can run for office in this country, JUST because you all CALL THEM KOOKS, doesn't make it so. We NEED more people to run instead of these CAREER politicians, but the way you all SAVAGE them, who the hell wants to.

 

[Flopper]

I am always weary of this kind of defense. Well if I had not done this, this would have happened. Well we will never really know will we.

Using our astute powers of hindsight, let's turn the clock back to Feb. 2009 when the stimulus package was passed. The New York Times had just reported 598,000 jobs lost the previous month. By contrast last month the economy added 117,000 jobs. In 2009 bank failure rates as well as foreclosures were the highest they had been since the Great Depression. In other words we were in deep shit.

The $787 billion stimulus package was to jump start economic growth, and save between 900,000-2.3 million jobs. The package allocated funds as follows:
$288 billion in tax cuts.
$224 billion in extended unemployment benefits, education and health care.
$275 billion for job creation using federal contracts, grants and loans.

Was the the stimulus package a success? That depends on who you ask. The CBO estimated that in the fourth quarter of 2010 there were somewhere between 1.3 million and 3.5 million people who were then employed who would not have been had the stimulus not been enacted. To these people it was obviously a success.

Suppose instead of the economic stimulus bill we did as critics suggest. "To improve the economy, policymakers should focus on reforms that remove impediments to work, saving, investment and production. Lower tax rates and a reduction in the
burden of government are the best ways of using fiscal policy to boost growth." In other words, cut assistance to the poor and those hurt most by the recession, give tax breaks to the wealthy, and add to the unemployment by reducing the size of government. I seriously doubt that even a Republican congress would dare to embark on such a program.

Historical Unemployment Rates in the United States
For Job Losses, No Sign That Worst Is Over - NYTimes.com
Bank Failure Rate Quickens Through January 2009
http://www.cato.org/special/stimulus09/cato_stimulus.pdf
CBO: Jobs Created and Saved By Stimulus Cost At Minimum An Average of $228,055 Each | CNSnews.com

February 09 the unemployment rate was 8.2%. That was the lowest it's been since.
The recession was largely over by the time Obama got into office. the stimulus was the biggest waste of money in history.

If you were one of the 1.3 to 3.5 million Americans who had a job because of the Stimulus Package, I doubt you would consider it a waste.

 

[Too Tall]

He is letting Hollywood man him up in a movie due out 10/12 next year, 3 weeks before election.

If someone in the White House leaked or sold the details of the Seal Team 6 raid to the movie producer they should be prosecuted and get 30 days in the electric chair.

The next raid by special forces has been severely compromised, and they will now have to change their methods of operation.

But, it will sure make Obama look like a hero just in time for the election.

 

[rightwinger]

He is letting Hollywood man him up in a movie due out 10/12 next year, 3 weeks before election.

If someone in the White House leaked or sold the details of the Seal Team 6 raid to the movie producer they should be prosecuted and get 30 days in the electric chair.

The next raid by special forces has been severely compromised, and they will now have to change their methods of operation.

But, it will sure make Obama look like a hero just in time for the election.

Bit of a drama queen aren't you?

 

[Patrick2]

Care to name them? Who else is electable? Bachmann?

Pawlenty, Santorum, etc etc - do they broadcast news where you are??

Santorum is not even worth discussion. He is polling at 1% proving that even republicans are not that dumb

Pawlenty is one of the non-nut jobs. However, his campaign is hanging by a thread. Barring a miracle....he will fizzle out quickly

As usual, you don't know what you are talking about. The ones other than Romney and Bachmann are not given any lib media publicity, because the lib media wants to focus on the ones most advantageous to the democrats - Romney because he's a RINO, and Bachmann because she's been singled out for the usual leftwing defamation campaign. They also give Paul more publicity than he deserves, because they hope for a third party run that will split the GOP vote. Once Pawlenty and others start winning primaries, they will have to talk about them - then the poll percentages will become meaningful.

 

[Patrick2]

Using our astute powers of hindsight, let's turn the clock back to Feb. 2009 when the stimulus package was passed. The New York Times had just reported 598,000 jobs lost the previous month. By contrast last month the economy added 117,000 jobs. In 2009 bank failure rates as well as foreclosures were the highest they had been since the Great Depression. In other words we were in deep shit.

The $787 billion stimulus package was to jump start economic growth, and save between 900,000-2.3 million jobs. The package allocated funds as follows:
$288 billion in tax cuts.
$224 billion in extended unemployment benefits, education and health care.
$275 billion for job creation using federal contracts, grants and loans.

Was the the stimulus package a success? That depends on who you ask. The CBO estimated that in the fourth quarter of 2010 there were somewhere between 1.3 million and 3.5 million people who were then employed who would not have been had the stimulus not been enacted. To these people it was obviously a success.

Suppose instead of the economic stimulus bill we did as critics suggest. "To improve the economy, policymakers should focus on reforms that remove impediments to work, saving, investment and production. Lower tax rates and a reduction in the
burden of government are the best ways of using fiscal policy to boost growth." In other words, cut assistance to the poor and those hurt most by the recession, give tax breaks to the wealthy, and add to the unemployment by reducing the size of government. I seriously doubt that even a Republican congress would dare to embark on such a program.

Historical Unemployment Rates in the United States
For Job Losses, No Sign That Worst Is Over - NYTimes.com
Bank Failure Rate Quickens Through January 2009
http://www.cato.org/special/stimulus09/cato_stimulus.pdf
CBO: Jobs Created and Saved By Stimulus Cost At Minimum An Average of $228,055 Each | CNSnews.com

February 09 the unemployment rate was 8.2%. That was the lowest it's been since.
The recession was largely over by the time Obama got into office. the stimulus was the biggest waste of money in history.

If you were one of the 1.3 to 3.5 million Americans who had a job because of the Stimulus Package, I doubt you would consider it a waste.

And how would you think about it if you were one of the many more millions who LOST their job? The so called stimulus didn't go to jobs, but such things as bailing out states with budget deficits so they could continue paying princely salaties to their government union workers already employed. Keynesian economics doesn't work - that's been proven twice now, in the Great Depression and the current Great Recession. It's been a huge waste of money helping only the politically connected (to the leftwing) and unnecessarily prolonged and deepened the recession by wasting time on known failed government policies.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Stimulus was good and Obama Health Care Bill was good.

Bwahahahhhahahhahhahahhahhahahhahhahhaahhahahahhahhaaaaa!

 

[rightwinger]

Pawlenty, Santorum, etc etc - do they broadcast news where you are??

Santorum is not even worth discussion. He is polling at 1% proving that even republicans are not that dumb

Pawlenty is one of the non-nut jobs. However, his campaign is hanging by a thread. Barring a miracle....he will fizzle out quickly

As usual, you don't know what you are talking about. The ones other than Romney and Bachmann are not given any lib media publicity, because the lib media wants to focus on the ones most advantageous to the democrats - Romney because he's a RINO, and Bachmann because she's been singled out for the usual leftwing defamation campaign. They also give Paul more publicity than he deserves, because they hope for a third party run that will split the GOP vote. Once Pawlenty and others start winning primaries, they will have to talk about them - then the poll percentages will become meaningful.

Show me where even Fox News gives these fringe nut jobs any coverage? The reason they get little coverage has nothing to do with a vast media conspiracy, but because they are nut jobs

Santorum, Bachmann, Cain, Paul, Gingrich....all nut jobs

 

[Truthmatters]

that is a lie.

It was total fabricated unnamed source bullshit article.

I know that wont stop you from repeteing the lie.

 

[Truthmatters]

I'm guessing (and it's just a guess ) that even the most brain-dead koolaid-soaked obamabot can grasp that he can't run on his record.

Will "He Killed Osama" work as a bumpersticker?

Nobody cares if he took out osama if they've been evicted from their house and haven't worked for three years.

How about "It's All Bush's Fault"?

That's the main thing coming from the bots here - but nobody else will buy it - if they tried that, it would just make them look sickeningly out of touch with reality and looking for a scapegoat for probably the worst administration in history.

So what will it be? It has to be something to distract people from the democrat economic disaster, and I'm guessing that will mean ramping up the defamation attacks, as eg were used on McCain in 2008. I don't think that'll work this time. But what else can they do?

Obama's campaign has already announced what they're going to do. Yesterday in Politico--they feel Romney will be the nominee and they are out to destroy him--by attacking him personally--in other words below the belt 501 groups.

The REASON--Barack Obama has been an utter failure as President. It's apparent to everyone-- including prominent democrats--that this man was never really qualified to be POTUS in the 1st place. So no accomplishments to run on--spells a very ugly--negative campaign that Obama will be running.

Obama plan: Destroy Romney - Ben Smith and Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com

So another BROKEN promise from this President. One of his campaign aids stated "we are going to kill Romney"--with negative ads.

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stop lying

 

[rightwinger]

I watched last night debate with an eye towards "Which of these candidates could potentially give Obama a hard time?"

The answer was clear....none of them

 

[BDBoop]

I watched last night debate with an eye towards "Which of these candidates could potentially give Obama a hard time?"

The answer was clear....none of them

Michele Bachmann, Mitt Romney and All Eight GOP Candidates Lost the Debate - The Daily Beast

The obvious winner of the Iowa GOP debate: Texas Governor Rick Perry, who gained significant ground on all his rivals because he displayed the good sense not to show up.

The losers? All eight candidates on stage, who clawed and snarled and divided attention eight ways, each looking smaller and less presidential in the process.

With Americans increasingly sour on Barack Obama, the Ames debate offered a precious chance to showcase refreshing, hopeful GOP alternatives; instead most candidates seemed petty and petulant and full of bile – angry at the world in general, at their opponents and, in the case of Newt Gingrich, full of righteous indignation at the moderators from Fox News.

I was at work, seems I didn't miss anything.

 

[Patrick2]

[
A lot of people nobody ever heard of - tea partiers who've never even been in politics, took over the House in 2010, and would have taken over the senate - leftwingers were REALLY lucky that only a third of the senators were up for re-election.

.

Uh, you seem to quietly revising history. The GOP lost its chance to win the Senate because a bunch of tea party kooks like Sharron Angle got nominated and couldn't win the general.

She did depose a RINO who needed to go - half a victory. It's worth it to me to have a lib instead of a RINO.

 

[Patrick2]

Santorum is not even worth discussion. He is polling at 1% proving that even republicans are not that dumb

Pawlenty is one of the non-nut jobs. However, his campaign is hanging by a thread. Barring a miracle....he will fizzle out quickly

As usual, you don't know what you are talking about. The ones other than Romney and Bachmann are not given any lib media publicity, because the lib media wants to focus on the ones most advantageous to the democrats - Romney because he's a RINO, and Bachmann because she's been singled out for the usual leftwing defamation campaign. They also give Paul more publicity than he deserves, because they hope for a third party run that will split the GOP vote. Once Pawlenty and others start winning primaries, they will have to talk about them - then the poll percentages will become meaningful.

Show me where even Fox News gives these fringe nut jobs any coverage? The reason they get little coverage has nothing to do with a vast media conspiracy, but because they are nut jobs

Santorum, Bachmann, Cain, Paul, Gingrich....all nut jobs

Ah, so THAT'S the leftwing strategy - after nearly destroying the country in a short period of time with their wingnut ideas, leftwingers will call everyone who isn't a leftwingnut a "nutjob"?? Good luck with THAT.

 

[Stephanie]

hahaha, they miss the debates than gets their opinions of it from some left-wing site called, The Daily BEAST.

here's their start and it just gets BETTER FROM THERE. good gawd

The obvious winner of the Iowa GOP debate: Texas Governor Rick Perry, who gained significant ground on all his rivals because he displayed the good sense not to show up.

no wonder we are in so in trouble in this country. People CAN'T think for themselves ANYMORE

 

[rightwinger]

As usual, you don't know what you are talking about. The ones other than Romney and Bachmann are not given any lib media publicity, because the lib media wants to focus on the ones most advantageous to the democrats - Romney because he's a RINO, and Bachmann because she's been singled out for the usual leftwing defamation campaign. They also give Paul more publicity than he deserves, because they hope for a third party run that will split the GOP vote. Once Pawlenty and others start winning primaries, they will have to talk about them - then the poll percentages will become meaningful.

Show me where even Fox News gives these fringe nut jobs any coverage? The reason they get little coverage has nothing to do with a vast media conspiracy, but because they are nut jobs

Santorum, Bachmann, Cain, Paul, Gingrich....all nut jobs

Ah, so THAT'S the leftwing strategy - after nearly destroying the country in a short period of time with their wingnut ideas, leftwingers will call everyone who isn't a leftwingnut a "nutjob"?? Good luck with THAT.

Its their own background and political positions that make them nut jobs

Care to discuss?

 

[Stephanie]

Show me where even Fox News gives these fringe nut jobs any coverage? The reason they get little coverage has nothing to do with a vast media conspiracy, but because they are nut jobs

Santorum, Bachmann, Cain, Paul, Gingrich....all nut jobs

Ah, so THAT'S the leftwing strategy - after nearly destroying the country in a short period of time with their wingnut ideas, leftwingers will call everyone who isn't a leftwingnut a "nutjob"?? Good luck with THAT.

Its their own background and political positions that make them nut jobs

Care to discuss?

Nothing to discuss, to you people ANYONE who doesn't think like you are, nutjobs

 

[rightwinger]

Ah, so THAT'S the leftwing strategy - after nearly destroying the country in a short period of time with their wingnut ideas, leftwingers will call everyone who isn't a leftwingnut a "nutjob"?? Good luck with THAT.

Its their own background and political positions that make them nut jobs

Care to discuss?

Nothing to discuss, to you people ANYONE who doesn't think like you are, nutjobs

Name a candidate and we can discuss their relative nutjobbiness

Non- nutjobs
Romney
Pawlenty
Perry
Huntsman

Nutjobs
Bachmann
Santorum
Cain
Gingrich
Paul