Realistically how I think the Immigration/deportation thing is going to go down

[westwall]

Everybody agrees that the illegal alien violent and even the non violent criminals have to go. Out of the possible population of 30 million plus that's going to amount to somewhere between one and two million people. Only an egregious asshole of a politco whether state politician or federal politician would be against this. This is what Homan has said he will focus on first. Give it time and see what happens because it absolutely needs to happen.

I think that once that has been accomplished you will see a gradual softening of the attitude toward the immigrant population. That does not mean however that they get a free ride....they must be informed that despite working and contributing to SS that they will never benefit from it. They must be informed that they cannot participate in legal elections. If the state wishes to allow them to vote in state elections then so be it....but not in federal elections. They must be informed that people who are going through the correct process will be given consideration first. Employers who hire them must pay an extra fee to the federal government for the cost of the immigrant's presence or be on the hook for a full boat insurance policy that they must pay for 100%.

Once the crime wave dies down....and let's not fool ourselves here there is one..... and that includes immigrants who pour cement during the day and rape at night.....It shouldn't take too long for people to understand that there is a place in our economy that has actually grown dependent on these people. It's not a proud place to be sure because it makes liars out of our Slavery Hating patrons who look the other way while their immigrant neighbors are actually paid salves but that is for another post.

If we truly decry the exporting of American manufacturing and we want to compete with a man hour colossus like China or even Vietnam for that matter...we need bodies. It's that simple. SS needs more contributors if it is to survive....unfortunately that means sacrificing people who will not collect it in their old age.

What we don't need and what we never needed was a migration flood....uncontrolled...unvetted and uninvited. This does not work. Their source countries are not stupid....for those who believe that the jails are not being emptied out and patched into the migrant caravans I say that you are just plain gullible. Make it plain to those places that the aid money they love so much is going away unless the get with the program.....you won't have to say another word.

We don't need bodies. That's a lie. Automation is going to take over the majority of those low level, low skilled jobs.

 

[justoffal]

We don't need bodies. That's a lie. Automation is going to take over the majority of those low level, low skilled jobs.

Wow....yeah I was thinking about that as I was typing it....do you think we're there now? I'm Surprised the Chinese aren't all over that.... But then they work so cheaply over there maybe it's still cheaper to have humans.

Of course that also spells doom for social security no?

Geezus....what do we do when we reach the paradigm wherein there are more humans than there are gainful employment slots?

 

[Winco]

but instead the Democrat governors and mayors are protecting the murderers, the rapists and the child molesters.

I agree.
I will NEVER understand the 'protection' of criminals.....any race.
But an Illegal Criminal.....100% should be gone.


Now, hard working ILLEGALS that come for jobs and work their asses off in the fields and plants......they NEED to Stay.
They Contribute, unlike some of out NOTED so-called Conservative Supporters.
I'll name them.... DakotaKai_fan20 and Road Runner
They won't work and detract from us hard workers.
These ILLEGALS that work the fields and plants.....They contribute.

I think the FOCUS is off.

 

[justoffal]

I agree.
I will NEVER understand the 'protection' of criminals.....any race.
But an Illegal Criminal.....100% should be gone.


Now, hard working ILLEGALS that come for jobs and work their asses off in the fields and plants......they NEED to Stay.
They Contribute, unlike some of out NOTED so-called Conservative Supporters.
I'll name them.... DakotaKai_fan20 and Road Runner
They won't work and detract from us hard workers.
These ILLEGALS that work the fields and plants.....They contribute.

I think the FOCUS is off.

I think they do....but they can't stay for free.... The employers that have them should become responsible for their health care at the very least and perhaps even pay a per capita Tax for replacing an American worker.

 

[justoffal]

I've lost track of the number of times that it was claimed that all of the people in this country illegally were going to be rounded up and deported. In reality, it's we will round them all up, if only we could find them.

They can easily be found.... Even cash wages can be traced....money cables can be seized....finding them WILL NOT BE DIFFICULT. First you have to WANT to find them.... That's the real obstacle. Everybody needs to go to the supermarket.... I don't care who they are. Walmart already does 100% full facial scans for every person entering. It will not be hard at all.

 

[SmokeALib]

They are exploited because they have to fear deportation and are forced to work under the table.
Give those who are working a temporary work Visa and allow them to work for a legal wage with benefits and pay full taxes

Why not just deport them? They're here in violation of U.S. law.

 

[justoffal]

They are exploited because they have to fear deportation and are forced to work under the table.
Give those who are working a temporary work Visa and allow them to work for a legal wage with benefits and pay full taxes

That's when you will find out who is really behind the open borders policies and I guarantee you people will be left speechless when it happens.

 

[Winco]

I think they do....but they can't stay for free.... The employers that have them should become responsible for their health care at the very least and perhaps even pay a per capita Tax for replacing an American worker.

If ONLY we had a Congress that worked.

How does a Congress Member receive "Free Health Care for LIFE."
It's total bullshit.

 

[Winco]

That's when you will find out who is really behind the open borders policies and I guarantee you people will be left speechless when it happens.

Do you KNOW?
Tell us NOW.
Why should we wait when you could just tell us the answer right NOW.

 

[justoffal]

If ONLY we had a Congress that worked.

How does a Congress Member receive "Free Health Care for LIFE."
It's total bullshit.

How many congress members take payola from large corporations that use undocumented workers? Both DEM and GOP?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Maybe you've noticed that the argument has now migrated (pun intended) from "there's no problem at the border" to "if it weren't for illegals, you couldn't eat".

I will not give one flying fuck when the media shows us gratuitous video of little cheeeelreennnn wailing about being sent back...They were made pawns in a massive invasion and gaslighting campaign...If we should be upset at anyone, it's the same media scum who aided in those acts.

 

[justoffal]

Do you KNOW?
Tell us NOW.
Why should we wait when you could just tell us the answer right NOW.

My bet? Most of the big mouths who claim to be against the mass migration are the ones secretly supporting it.

 

[Winco]

How many congress members take payola from large corporations that use undocumented workers? Both DEM and GOP?

Exactly....... IDK, but is it 100%?
That's my guess.
ALL Politician SUCK, but since I'm vocal about POS trump......well, you know.

 

[Winco]

My bet? Most of the big mouths who claim to be against the mass migration are the ones secretly supporting it.

Like who?

Which (R) are against?
Which (D) are against?

 

[justoffal]

Like who?

Which (R) are against?
Which (D) are against?

Start with a list of current and former Congress critters that are heavily vested in manufacturing. Like Pelosi who owns a large stake in Starkist in American Samoa.

McConnell who is tied to the big defense contractors not just in Kentucky who sub out grunt work to non vetted companies.

I think it's easier to make a list of those who are NOT ON THE TAKE.

 

[Winco]

Start with a list of current and former Congress critters that are heavily vested in manufacturing. Like Pelosi who owns a large stake in Starkist in American Samoa.

McConnell who is tied to the big defense contractors not just in Kentucky who sub out grunt work to non vetted companies.

I think it's easier to make a list of those who are NOT ON THE TAKE.

We are on the same side here.....right?

ALL politicians are scum........except maybe a few that I have no knowledge of. HOPE.


Thanks for the reasonable discourse.

 

[justoffal]

We are on the same side here.....right?

ALL politicians are scum........except maybe a few that I have no knowledge of. HOPE.

Oh of course....
I just can't get myself to be totally on the sidelines though that's probably where I belong.

When they give you a choice between shitty and shittier what are you supposed to do?

 

[Rawley]

Everybody agrees that the illegal alien violent and even the non violent criminals have to go.

Nope. Sanctuary cities and states explicitly disagree.

 

[justoffal]

Nope. Sanctuary cities and states explicitly disagree.

Then fuck em!

 

[Rawley]

After proving to be good citizens, we should allow them to apply for citizenship

Nope. Never