Real black men are voting for Kamala Harris. and we are the super majority in the black community.

[elektra]

Trump inherited what Obama left him on Jan 20, 2017 ...

Yep, and what Trump inherited was the largest amount of debt and spending ever passed onto another president.

Extreme taxes and regulations Obama passed onto Trump

An open border being invaded by millions of criminals Obama gave Trump

Then there are the wars Obama gave Trump

 

[Cougarbear]

Trump inherited Low inflation. He helped create inflation through tariffs on China and how badly he fucked up the Covid Response.

Trump did nothing to prevent wars, and he came damned close to starting ones with N. Korea and Iran.

Nope, business did not "Flow back". The reason why unemployment is (and remains) low is because Boomers are retiring faster than Gen Z can replace us.



Of course, Trump is a racist. Shit hole countries. Mexicans are rapists. Execute the Central Park Five.



Except you don't explain HOW it is faulty, do you?

If Drugs should be illegal, so should tobacco and alcohol. There's no good reason why they should be legal, other than people want them. You don't need them to survive.

Or you can sensibly realize they aren't really moral or criminal issues, but simply health issues, and should be treated as such.

I don't smoke. I only moderately drink (like one glass of wine a week). I've never done drugs. (Except one time I toked on a joint to impress a girl. Pretty much everything really dumb I've done in my life falls into 'trying to impress a woman.)

But something doesn't become moral because a big corporations does it.



Only a matter of time before Big Corporations take over from the drug gangs. Then you will be praising the morality of it like a good little fucking Corporate Mormon Drone.



Morality is a personal choice. What you consider immoral isn't what I would consider immoral. In addition to all the vices I list above, I do things for logical reasons.

I don't smoke or do drugs because they are unhealthy. I also don't drink a lot because it is unhealthy. I do have an unhealthy diet, (despite the best efforts of Mrs. B131) but I sure as hell don't want the government or moral scolds telling me what I can and can't eat.

I support a woman's right to chose, but I would never participate in an abortion. (Since I lack a uterus and Mrs. B131 and I are both in our 60s, it's not an issue.)

I don't gamble because I understand probabilities.


NONE OF THESE ARE MORAL ISSUES.

You are so brainwashed spewing the same Democrat lying talking points. Obama caused wars, and a poor economy. People were so tired of his lies that Trump beat Hillary.

It’s sad when people don’t believe in God and choose their own morality. It never works and civilizations have disappeared because of these sins of pride. As true moral commandments are lost by our country, we all can see more hatred and problems with the economy and world wars. I know and see the connection sometimes known as wisdom.

 

[JoeB131]

You are so brainwashed spewing the same Democrat lying talking points. Obama caused wars, and a poor economy.

Are you fucking serious?

When Obama left, EVERY economic indicator was far better than what he inherited from Bush, or what it was like when Trump left.

People were so tired of his lies that Trump beat Hillary.

Nope, Hillary won the popular vote. If Obama could have run for a third term, he'd have easily beaten Trump.

It’s sad when people don’t believe in God and choose their own morality.

No, what is sad is when you fuck up your country trying to please your imaginary sky friend.

It never works and civilizations have disappeared because of these sins of pride.

Really? Which ones? Please don't say Rome, Rome was a Christian Empire when it fell.

As true moral commandments are lost by our country, we all can see more hatred and problems with the economy and world wars. I know and see the connection sometimes known as wisdom.

The only reason why we have hatred in this country is that your religious fanatics keep trying to impose your morality on the rest of us, and can't mind your own fucking business.

 

[Cougarbear]

Are you fucking serious?

When Obama left, EVERY economic indicator was far better than what he inherited from Bush, or what it was like when Trump left.



Nope, Hillary won the popular vote. If Obama could have run for a third term, he'd have easily beaten Trump.



No, what is sad is when you fuck up your country trying to please your imaginary sky friend.



Really? Which ones? Please don't say Rome, Rome was a Christian Empire when it fell.



The only reason why we have hatred in this country is that your religious fanatics keep trying to impose your morality on the rest of us, and can't mind your own fucking business.

Your pride is what I’m talking about. You can’t see the lies in front of you. It’s only Democrats telling people to hate the other half of the country. You don’t see anything coming out of Republicans to hate and kill their opponents. But, you do with Democrats. You even did it in one of your last posts.

Of course Hillary won the total popular vote. But not in most states. The reason for the popular vote is four words, California, New York, Illinois.. we don’t elect with the total popular vote. We have 50 separate states that are separate and equal.

No, not every indicator was good with Obummer. He was causing hatred between blacks and whites, Israel and Muslim countries. And a lot more.
Also, anyone with a brain knows Trump’s economy was far better for all races at the end of 3 years under Trump. It would have stayed that way had China not unleashed death and destruction around the world. And you know it.

 

[JoeB131]

Your pride is what I’m talking about. You can’t see the lies in front of you. It’s only Democrats telling people to hate the other half of the country. You don’t see anything coming out of Republicans to hate and kill their opponents. But, you do with Democrats. You even did it in one of your last posts.

Oh, bullshit. All the hate and anger is coming from your side, with Trump engaging in hours of name-calling and no policy ideas.

Of course Hillary won the total popular vote. But not in most states. The reason for the popular vote is four words, California, New York, Illinois.. we don’t elect with the total popular vote. We have 50 separate states that are separate and equal.

In short, we are using a system devised by Slave Rapists that no other country in the world uses, and no other office in the US is selected by.

THE BIG STATES SHOULD BE DECIDING WHO IS PRESIDENT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIVE, YOU STUPID MORMON TWAT!

Could I make that any clearer for you?

No, not every indicator was good with Obummer. He was causing hatred between blacks and whites, Israel and Muslim countries. And a lot more.

Obama wasn't causing hate between blacks and whites.

It was white people like you who saw a Black man in the White House and freaked the fuck out.

Also, anyone with a brain knows Trump’s economy was far better for all races at the end of 3 years under Trump. It would have stayed that way had China not unleashed death and destruction around the world. And you know it.

Not really. Trump is the first president since Hoover to post a net jobs loss. His GDP Growth for his first three years was LOWER on average than Obama's, and that's even with Obama having to factor in Bush's recession in his first year. I know you guys like to pretend someone else was president in 2020 when it all went to shit.

 

[Cougarbear]

Oh, bullshit. All the hate and anger is coming from your side, with Trump engaging in hours of name-calling and no policy ideas.



In short, we are using a system devised by Slave Rapists that no other country in the world uses, and no other office in the US is selected by.

THE BIG STATES SHOULD BE DECIDING WHO IS PRESIDENT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIVE, YOU STUPID MORMON TWAT!

Could I make that any clearer for you?



Obama wasn't causing hate between blacks and whites.

It was white people like you who saw a Black man in the White House and freaked the fuck out.



Not really. Trump is the first president since Hoover to post a net jobs loss. His GDP Growth for his first three years was LOWER on average than Obama's, and that's even with Obama having to factor in Bush's recession in his first year. I know you guys like to pretend someone else was president in 2020 when it all went to shit.

What you need to do is leave the country and live in China, Russia, Venezuela or some other communist country. If you hate the county then get out!

 

[JoeB131]

What you need to do is leave the country and live in China, Russia, Venezuela or some other communist country. If you hate the county then get out!

I love the country and have probably done more for it than you have.

I just didn't swear fealty to the memories of dead slave rapists who weren't admirable people.

 

[Cougarbear]

I love the country and have probably done more for it than you have.

I just didn't swear fealty to the memories of dead slave rapists who weren't admirable people.

If it wasn’t for those non-perfect human beings who committed felonies by declaring treason against England, today you would still be a slave.
In some ways you still are. You are a slave too the past and can’t move forward when so many have.

 

[JoeB131]

If it wasn’t for those non-perfect human beings who committed felonies by declaring treason against England, today you would still be a slave.
In some ways you still are. You are a slave too the past and can’t move forward when so many have.

Bullshit

If the Founding Slave Rapists lost... we'd all have to suffer the abject horror of being.... Canadians!!!

Seriously, that's what would have happened. Briitsh North America would have become something like the Dominion of Canada.

Now, of course, none of us would exist in that timeline, because the exact circumstances of our parents meeting much less copulating on a certain day would be unlikely.

The UK was a parlimentary democracy. If anything, on the alternate timeline, slavery would have ended a lot earlier than it did, without a civil war. (The British Empire abolished slavery in 1834)

Now, that would be for the US EAST of the Mississippi. Would the UK have taken Louisiana from France after the end of the Napoleonic Wars? Probably. Would they have done a mad territorial grab against Mexico? Probably not.

Here's the thing, Canada has a pretty good system. They have universal health care. They have elections where someone doesn't get elected after the people say no, loudly to him.

 

[Cougarbear]

Bullshit

If the Founding Slave Rapists lost... we'd all have to suffer the abject horror of being.... Canadians!!!

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Seriously, that's what would have happened. Briitsh North America would have become something like the Dominion of Canada.

Now, of course, none of us would exist in that timeline, because the exact circumstances of our parents meeting much less copulating on a certain day would be unlikely.

The UK was a parlimentary democracy. If anything, on the alternate timeline, slavery would have ended a lot earlier than it did, without a civil war. (The British Empire abolished slavery in 1834)

Now, that would be for the US EAST of the Mississippi. Would the UK have taken Louisiana from France after the end of the Napoleonic Wars? Probably. Would they have done a mad territorial grab against Mexico? Probably not.

Here's the thing, Canada has a pretty good system. They have universal health care. They have elections where someone doesn't get elected after the people say no, loudly to him.

Canada has a terrible system. Go against Trudeau and you go to jail. Think Covid. Same with Biden and the DOJ. How many hundreds, thousands has Biden-Harris DOJ jailed? Buttheads can’t see the Forrest for the trees.

And, your attempt at what ifs fall flat too. The Founding Fathers, bless them, for the courage to break away from the tyranny of your kind of democracy and establish a Constitutional Republic. The started a country that would soon be the beacon on liberty and personal freedom. A country with personal opportunities for those who don’t claim victim hood. Call them whatever, they bucked the system and laid the groundwork for freeing the slaves. Thank them you idiots.

 

[Nostra]

Canada has a terrible system. Go against Trudeau and you go to jail. Think Covid. Same with Biden and the DOJ. How many hundreds, thousands has Biden-Harris DOJ jailed? Buttheads can’t see the Forrest for the trees.

And, your attempt at what ifs fall flat too. The Founding Fathers, bless them, for the courage to break away from the tyranny of your kind of democracy and establish a Constitutional Republic. The started a country that would soon be the beacon on liberty and personal freedom. A country with personal opportunities for those who don’t claim victim hood. Call them whatever, they bucked the system and laid the groundwork for freeing the slaves. Thank them you idiots.

KKKanada is much closer to a dictatorship than the US will ever be.

 

[marvin martian]

Every 4 years we get the same thing from the Republican Party. But this is the reality of how things are going to go. Stop listening to punk black grifters

You don't get to decide what a "real black man" is, only Joe Biden can do that.

You need to listen.

 

[Cougarbear]

KKKanada is much closer to a dictatorship than the US will ever be.

While the are socialist and moving in that direction based on the recent squashing of individual rights like free speech and religion, the U.S. can fall as well with a communist Democrat party leading the way.

 

[JoeB131]

Canada has a terrible system. Go against Trudeau and you go to jail. Think Covid. Same with Biden and the DOJ. How many hundreds, thousands has Biden-Harris DOJ jailed? Buttheads can’t see the Forrest for the trees.

Right. I've been to Canada a few times. Just not seeing the dystopia you seem to see. Other than the shitty weather it was kind of nice.

Biden is only locking up the shitheads who helped Trump try to overthrow the government. Most countries would have taken those people out and shot them.

And, your attempt at what ifs fall flat too. The Founding Fathers, bless them, for the courage to break away from the tyranny of your kind of democracy and establish a Constitutional Republic. The started a country that would soon be the beacon on liberty and personal freedom. A country with personal opportunities for those who don’t claim victim hood. Call them whatever, they bucked the system and laid the groundwork for freeing the slaves. Thank them you idiots.

Guy, no. Just, no.

The Founders weren't fighting "Tyranny", they just didn't want to pay their taxes for a war they started with France and the Native Americans.

The country they founded was great. Unless you were black and enslaved. Or a Native American who got genocided. Fuck, guy, you're a Mormon they chased you clowns across the country because no one wanted to live next to your weird cult asses.

 

[JoeB131]

While the are socialist and moving in that direction based on the recent squashing of individual rights like free speech and religion, the U.S. can fall as well with a communist Democrat party leading the way.

No one is interfering with your ability to grovel in front of your imaginary sky friend.

 

[Cougarbear]

Right. I've been to Canada a few times. Just not seeing the dystopia you seem to see. Other than the shitty weather it was kind of nice.

Biden is only locking up the shitheads who helped Trump try to overthrow the government. Most countries would have taken those people out and shot them.



Guy, no. Just, no.

The Founders weren't fighting "Tyranny", they just didn't want to pay their taxes for a war they started with France and the Native Americans.

The country they founded was great. Unless you were black and enslaved. Or a Native American who got genocided. Fuck, guy, you're a Mormon they chased you clowns across the country because no one wanted to live next to your weird cult asses.

Heavy taxation is a form of tyranny when you aren't allowed to own property. The Founding Fathers developed a capitalism system that fits into the freedoms provided by the Constitution. The Constitution that was inspired of God and still is. Taking property is tyranny. Democracies have full control because the majority rules. We have a Republic which doesn't allow for tyranny of the majority. Democrats don't know the difference.

Canadians are most certainly not liking the restrictions that have recently been put in place. I have family there and it has changed just in the past 10-15 years. And, religion is on the attack there too.

The Democrats tried to overturn the 2016 election many times. Even trying to impeach Trump for what we know now were fraudulent claims instigated by Hillary and other Democrats like Shift. Heck, your side tried to take out a Supreme Court Justice as well. Shameful! Biden did nothing and neither did Garland. Trump did not try to overthrow the government. Prove it. You won't be able to find anything. January 6th was a protest. The break-in is now found to be FBI instigated. Weird how only Democrats are allowed to protest. How in the world would Trump have overthrown the government with mostly old people going inside and looking around taking pictures? No one had a weapon. You don't overthrow a government without high powered guns, tanks, and bombs. So stupid to use that excuse.

 

[Cougarbear]

No one is interfering with your ability to grovel in front of your imaginary sky friend.

Oh yes they are! Plenty of court cases to show this as well. Just look at the far left attacks on Catholics and forcing people to learn about sinful acts in schools. That imaginary friend you claim is the only one keeping you safe from tyranny.

 

[JoeB131]

Heavy taxation is a form of tyranny when you aren't allowed to own property. The Founding Fathers developed a capitalism system that fits into the freedoms provided by the Constitution. The Constitution that was inspired of God and still is. Taking property is tyranny. Democracies have full control because the majority rules. We have a Republic which doesn't allow for tyranny of the majority. Democrats don't know the difference.

Okay, guy, the amount of tax being paid in 1776 was far less than what the average American pays now. The British even repealed unpopular taxes when asked.


Taxes are the far price you pay for civilization. I happen to like civilization. I have no desire to shit in a chamber pot because you are upset that we pay taxes for sanitation systems.

Canadians are most certainly not liking the restrictions that have recently been put in place. I have family there and it has changed just in the past 10-15 years. And, religion is on the attack there too.

You say that like it's a bad thing. Look anyone is going to whine when their guy isn't in charge.

The Democrats tried to overturn the 2016 election many times. Even trying to impeach Trump for what we know now were fraudulent claims instigated by Hillary and other Democrats like Shift.

Um, Trump was impeached for real crimes.

Heck, your side tried to take out a Supreme Court Justice as well. Shameful!

No, shameful was putting a guy who was credibly accused of rape on SCOTUS.

Trump did not try to overthrow the government. Prove it. You won't be able to find anything. January 6th was a protest. The break-in is now found to be FBI instigated. Weird how only Democrats are allowed to protest. How in the world would Trump have overthrown the government with mostly old people going inside and looking around taking pictures? No one had a weapon. You don't overthrow a government without high powered guns, tanks, and bombs. So stupid to use that excuse.

THis is such a glob of crazy I don't know what to say about it. So Trump riling these people up for MONTHS had nothing to do with the riot they staged trying to overthrow the election, it was all a plot by the FBI!!!!

Oh yes they are! Plenty of court cases to show this as well. Just look at the far left attacks on Catholics and forcing people to learn about sinful acts in schools. That imaginary friend you claim is the only one keeping you safe from tyranny.

No, guy, what keeps us safe from tyranny is the rule of law, which is a problem when you have a guy like Trump who thinks he's above the law.

 

[Cougarbear]

Okay, guy, the amount of tax being paid in 1776 was far less than what the average American pays now. The British even repealed unpopular taxes when asked.


Taxes are the far price you pay for civilization. I happen to like civilization. I have no desire to shit in a chamber pot because you are upset that we pay taxes for sanitation systems.



You say that like it's a bad thing. Look anyone is going to whine when their guy isn't in charge.




Um, Trump was impeached for real crimes.


No, shameful was putting a guy who was credibly accused of rape on SCOTUS.




THis is such a glob of crazy I don't know what to say about it. So Trump riling these people up for MONTHS had nothing to do with the riot they staged trying to overthrow the election, it was all a plot by the FBI!!!!



No, guy, what keeps us safe from tyranny is the rule of law, which is a problem when you have a guy like Trump who thinks he's above the law.

Today, we just take the taxes. We need a government much, much smaller. States can decide on their own how much they want to spend on your toilet. The Federal Government should not be in the State's business including abortion. Trump is correct. Get rid of 95% of the government agencies. Military and only essential agencies needed. Shrink the IRS to about 95% the size it is now.

Yes, we have the Constitutional and God given right to believe and exercise our religion without atheist interference. We don't need government to give us our rights that are endowed by our Creator.

No, the crimes brought forth by the Democrats were not crimes nor did he break any laws. All the money spent on special councils and all that came out to show Trump was innocent of all attacks by your tyrannical Democrat Politicians. Going after political opponents like this is third world stuff. If you like it, move to a third world country where treason and coups are the norm.

In our country, the rule of law is that a person is innocent until proven guilty. Communist countries differ in this and will judge upon accusations without proof. That woman was shown to be a fraud and that you just don't believe a woman because she is a woman. Heck, you turds can't even define a woman. Biden puts a woman on the court who can't define what a woman is. You people are insane!

Well, how about all the crazy groups of liberal leftists whom Hillary and other Democrats have done in the past? Maxine Watters telling Democrats to get into the faces of Republicans and be violent if necessary. Or, the series of rioters and looters in many major cities burning down government buildings and private businesses. Burning cars and all sorts of anarchy and attempts to overturn elections and take over governments, federal, state and local. And, your rioters had guns, threw rocks and other stuff hurting and killing people. There is nothing wrong with people protesting an election. Nothing! But, your depiction of Trump is incorrect. At the end of the rally, Trump clearly and on video tape said go to the Capitol and protest peacefully and peaceably. More than once too! He gave no instructions to enter the Capitol. The FBI infiltrated the protestors and did the entering and getting the people to go into the building. Biden's FBI. Harris FBI.

Trump doesn't think he's above the law. Obama tried to do stuff that were struck down by the courts. So has Biden and Harris. It's part of being President. You don't like the fact Trump stopped wars from happening. Kept Putin and Iran in check. Lowered gas, inflation and interest rates, got Muslim countries to sign peace treaties with Israel and work with them, moved the capital of Israel to Jerusalem, fully supported Jews and thus not a fascist, helped change laws that have jailed blacks wrongly (repealing the Clinton-Jerkson-Dullston laws to jail black drug pushers and addicts, closed the border without having to have Congress write more laws on immigration and much, much more. Democrats hate that Trump actually kept most of his campaign promises. That isn't what the Deep State want at all.

 

[JoeB131]

Today, we just take the taxes. We need a government much, much smaller. States can decide on their own how much they want to spend on your toilet. The Federal Government should not be in the State's business including abortion. Trump is correct. Get rid of 95% of the government agencies. Military and only essential agencies needed. Shrink the IRS to about 95% the size it is now.

Sorry, man, I like living in a modern state with modern services. You might be happy shitting in a chamber pot like the Founding Slave Rapists did, but I like having modern stuff.

Yes, we have the Constitutional and God given right to believe and exercise our religion without atheist interference. We don't need government to give us our rights that are endowed by our Creator.

Fine, by all means, keep your grovelling in your churches. But we don't want your nonsense in our laws or in our schools or in our doctor's offices.

No, the crimes brought forth by the Democrats were not crimes nor did he break any laws. All the money spent on special councils and all that came out to show Trump was innocent of all attacks by your tyrannical Democrat Politicians. Going after political opponents like this is third world stuff. If you like it, move to a third world country where treason and coups are the norm.

Uh, you jackasses impeached Bill Clinton over a blow job. I don't want to hear it.

In our country, the rule of law is that a person is innocent until proven guilty. Communist countries differ in this and will judge upon accusations without proof. That woman was shown to be a fraud and that you just don't believe a woman because she is a woman. Heck, you turds can't even define a woman. Biden puts a woman on the court who can't define what a woman is. You people are insane!

Um, no, actually, the FBI did no investigation into her claims, which were pretty credible. Instead the Turtle rushed through a vote before any investigation could happen of SEVERAL credible women saying Anger Issues Kavanaugh was a serial rapist.

Well, how about all the crazy groups of liberal leftists whom Hillary and other Democrats have done in the past? Maxine Watters telling Democrats to get into the faces of Republicans and be violent if necessary. Or, the series of rioters and looters in many major cities burning down government buildings and private businesses. Burning cars and all sorts of anarchy and attempts to overturn elections and take over governments, federal, state and local. And, your rioters had guns, threw rocks and other stuff hurting and killing people.

Uh, the BLM riots happened because thug ass cops keep murdering black children. You are lucky that you got off with as little damage as we got.

There is nothing wrong with people protesting an election. Nothing! But, your depiction of Trump is incorrect. At the end of the rally, Trump clearly and on video tape said go to the Capitol and protest peacefully and peaceably. More than once too! He gave no instructions to enter the Capitol. The FBI infiltrated the protestors and did the entering and getting the people to go into the building. Biden's FBI. Harris FBI.

Actually, there's everything wrong with trying to overthrow an election you clearly lost. Trump organized that mob. Trump conspired with the Proud Boys and other Nazis. Those fuckheads did not enter the building because the FBI told them to. They did it because they were a bunch of racist shitheads obeying their Orange Jesus.

Trump doesn't think he's above the law. Obama tried to do stuff that were struck down by the courts. So has Biden and Harris. It's part of being President. You don't like the fact Trump stopped wars from happening. Kept Putin and Iran in check. Lowered gas, inflation and interest rates, got Muslim countries to sign peace treaties with Israel and work with them, moved the capital of Israel to Jerusalem, fully supported Jews and thus not a fascist, helped change laws that have jailed blacks wrongly (repealing the Clinton-Jerkson-Dullston laws to jail black drug pushers and addicts, closed the border without having to have Congress write more laws on immigration and much, much more. Democrats hate that Trump actually kept most of his campaign promises. That isn't what the Deep State want at all.

Sure Trump thinks he's above the law. This was his whole argument to SCOTUS, and SCOTUS halfway agreed with him, which is why he hasn't gone on trial yet for 1/6 and stealing those documents.