Reagan vs Obama

[Sallow]

Reagan had a hostile congress, he had the senate for 4 ( I was wrong earlier I apologize) years,and he never had the house. By this same point in time after the recession ended, the economy had been ramped up and we were on the mend.

Reagan never had a "hostile" congress. They had good reason to impeach him..and didn't. Clinton's congress, had no ******* reason to impeach, and did.

Get it?

 

[Sallow]

So, out of all that verbiage designed to cloud the issue...you seem to admit that Democrat Clinton marched shoulder to shoulder with Communist Tyrannt Fidel Castro....


...I see your improvement already!

Ah..so you hate Clinton and love Reagan..

This speaks volumes.

I love posting it.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R67CH-qhXJs]YouTube - President Ronald Reagan - Address on Iran-Contra[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5YOQEZtNE0&feature=related]YouTube - Ronald Reagan Speech about Iran-Contra (Part 2 of 2)[/ame]

He committed treason and lied about it.

1. "He committed treason and lied about it."

Since I like you, I offer the following advice, just so you don't embarrass yourself as you did above...look up the meaning of 'treason.'
Hyperbole is generally reserved for teenage girls.

2. "...so you hate Clinton..."
Again, this hyperbole speaks of one who is less than articulate.
I hate no one.
But I waste no time in revealing their, and your, inequities and transgressions.

3. And, rather than post outside of the subject of the post, how bout offering your carefully considered opinion of the fascist Democrat- Clinton-Reno-Holder attack on Elian Gonzalez in the service of the Communist Dictator Fidel Castro?

It seems that your attack on the great man is higher on you list of priorities than offering any disapproval of the unconstitutional actions of the Left.

1. Reagan bargained with an avowed enemy of the United States. That's treason.

Treason
treason n the offense of attempting to overthrow the government of one's country or of assisting its enemies in war Source: NMW

2. Reagan secretly funneled money to terrorists. That's in breach of the Constitution.

3. Clinton showed respect for the Constitution and the Laws of Nations (Which the Constitution fully supports) by returning Elian to his father.

Got it?

 

[Trajan]

Reagan had a hostile congress, he had the senate for 4 ( I was wrong earlier I apologize) years,and he never had the house. By this same point in time after the recession ended, the economy had been ramped up and we were on the mend.

Reagan never had a "hostile" congress. They had good reason to impeach him..and didn't. Clinton's congress, had no ******* reason to impeach, and did.

Get it?

when one party owns the wh and the other congress or hours or senate thats a hostile congress in the context my overall message spoke to, but thx for finding a glib nit to pick.

here I'll fix it for you...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ah..so you hate Clinton and love Reagan..

This speaks volumes.

I love posting it.
YouTube - President Ronald Reagan - Address on Iran-Contra
YouTube - Ronald Reagan Speech about Iran-Contra (Part 2 of 2)

He committed treason and lied about it.

1. "He committed treason and lied about it."

Since I like you, I offer the following advice, just so you don't embarrass yourself as you did above...look up the meaning of 'treason.'
Hyperbole is generally reserved for teenage girls.

2. "...so you hate Clinton..."
Again, this hyperbole speaks of one who is less than articulate.
I hate no one.
But I waste no time in revealing their, and your, inequities and transgressions.

3. And, rather than post outside of the subject of the post, how bout offering your carefully considered opinion of the fascist Democrat- Clinton-Reno-Holder attack on Elian Gonzalez in the service of the Communist Dictator Fidel Castro?

It seems that your attack on the great man is higher on you list of priorities than offering any disapproval of the unconstitutional actions of the Left.

1. Reagan bargained with an avowed enemy of the United States. That's treason.

Treason
treason n the offense of attempting to overthrow the government of one's country or of assisting its enemies in war Source: NMW

2. Reagan secretly funneled money to terrorists. That's in breach of the Constitution.

3. Clinton showed respect for the Constitution and the Laws of Nations (Which the Constitution fully supports) by returning Elian to his father.

Got it?

Treason, the only crime defined in the Constitution, Art. III section 3... read it.


The great man fought against communism, and did what no other pol could do....defeat the Soviet Union.

Further, I note that you have scurried away from the anti-American nature of the the actions of fascist Democrat- Clinton-Reno-Holder attack on Elian Gonzalez in the service of the Communist Dictator Fidel Castro?

A wise move, since it is indefensible.

 

[Truthmatters]

Reagan did not defeat the SU.

Elian Gonzales was a parents right issue.

No country is allowed to keep a persons child for political purposes.



If you think Reagan ended the cold war than you are a complete partisan.

 

[boedicca]

The UCLA study uses an incomplete data set which underestimates the number of jobs created during the New Deal.

And the current levels of unemployment levels in reported by the government use an incomplete data set which underestimates the numbers of people who have GIVEN uP LOOKING BECAUSE THERE ARE NO JOBS.

 

[Truthmatters]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War_(1985-1991)

Gorbachev ended the cold war.

 

[Truthmatters]

The UCLA study uses an incomplete data set which underestimates the number of jobs created during the New Deal.

And the current levels of unemployment levels in reported by the government use an incomplete data set which underestimates the numbers of people who have GIVEN uP LOOKING BECAUSE THERE ARE NO JOBS.

Thanks to the republican paarty allowing a problem to fester because it proped up their numbers so Bush could get reelected.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Reagan did not defeat the SU.

Elian Gonzales was a parents right issue.

No country is allowed to keep a persons child for political purposes.



If you think Reagan ended the cold war than you are a complete partisan.

"No country is allowed to keep a persons child for political purposes."

Issues such as amnesty are decided via the judicial system in democratically principled nations, as opposed to gunpoint, as in fascist nations....

Which is exactly what happened under the fascist-Democrat-Clinton-Reno-Holder government.....Elian Gonzalez was kidnapped at gunpoint prior to the decision of a panel of judges, who might have allowed Elian Gonzalez the right of every human being fleeing homicidal dictatorships.

a. Rather than allow a judge to decide, the Clinton administration ordered a predawn armed raid. The Gonzalez family had committed no crime, was in violation of no court order…but was subjected to “…frightening image of a Border Patrol agent pointing his machine gun at Elian… "We got Maced, we got kicked, we got roughed up", Cuban-born NBC camera man Tony Zumbado told MSNBC. He said that as the incursion began, federal agents kicked him in the stomach and yelled, "Don't move or we'll shoot." Zumbado added on NBC's" Dateline: "My sound man got hit with a shotgun butt on the head, dragged outside.” [CTRL] JACKBOOT JANET STOMPS NBC NEWS CREW WHILE MAJOR MEDIA

b. Both liberal jurists Alan Dershowitz and Lawrence Tribe denounced the raid as illegal and unconstitutional. But the press was satisfied. So, it seems, were you Leftists, thrilled to support the wishes of Castro, who viewed any 'escape'' from the prison nation as a crime.

An aside: I am so glad that you are on the board to present the liberal-fascist point of view, so that I may present the freedom-liberty side!
Folks like Sally, it seems, is smart enough to avoid defending the fascist-Democrat-Clinton-Reno-Holder government.

 

[Truthmatters]

Parental rights is why the kid was sent back.

When you come inbetween the most basic right to have your child you are a real partisan hack

 

[The T]

Parental rights is why the kid was sent back.

When you come inbetween the most basic right to have your child you are a real partisan hack

If that is the BASE of your argument? I could really throw a monkey wrench in this thread and ask why Parents don't have the right to educate their kids how they see fit? Raise their kids how they see fit, and why does the Government interfere, and blatently undo any teachings parents have done with their own children?

Have a smart answer for this?

 

[boedicca]

The UCLA study uses an incomplete data set which underestimates the number of jobs created during the New Deal.

And the current levels of unemployment levels in reported by the government use an incomplete data set which underestimates the numbers of people who have GIVEN uP LOOKING BECAUSE THERE ARE NO JOBS.

Thanks to the republican paarty allowing a problem to fester because it proped up their numbers so Bush could get reelected.

Prove it.

 

[Truthmatters]

http://www.juridicas.unam.mx/publica/librev/rev/derpriv/cont/1/dtr/dtr3.pdf

read the court doc people.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Parental rights is why the kid was sent back.

When you come inbetween the most basic right to have your child you are a real partisan hack

Bravo!

Excellent, and may I say consistent, response from one who resents the possiblity that government fiat and power might be resisted by a system of checks and balances.

I couldn't have written lines better for you if my name was Stalin....or Clinton.

 

[Truthmatters]

Eliot Spitzer - Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime - washingtonpost.com


The states were fought by Bush and team when they tried to deal with it within their own states.

Bush knew if they kept the lenders from using these practices his economy would tank.

Housing was the only thing keeping his economic numbers up.

 

[Truthmatters]

Parental rights is why the kid was sent back.

When you come inbetween the most basic right to have your child you are a real partisan hack

Bravo!

Excellent, and may I say consistent, response from one who resents the possiblity that government fiat and power might be resisted by a system of checks and balances.

I couldn't have written lines better for you if my name was Stalin....or Clinton.

Did you read the courts decision?

Nope you didnt did you.

The court decided this and you pretend otherwise.

How dishonest of you

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm putting this in Politics because the economic performance is a function of policy, leadership and politics.

Who told you that?



But anyhow, if that's true, whose policy, leadership, and politics functioned to cause the Reagan recession, that started 6 months AFTER he took office,

and lasted for a grueling 16 months DURING his first term?

Reagans, and this has been noted as the Reagan recession by me several times, and by others for some months......happy now?


But wait!!! theres more!!!!

There are folks here, *ahem* that say he didn't have squat to do with it becasue it was successful in what it set out to do and had to be done, so Volcker gets the credit, ala the Volcker recession...sound familiar?



Oh and I am sure it doesn't matter to you, but like, he was you know, shot? 70 days into his term and had a very truncated schedule for 6 months there after...

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now Reagan gets a pass on the 16 month recession he presided over, because he was shot and out of commission in 1981.

Oh. My. God.

So when did the BIG tax cut that is supposed to be the be-all end-all centerpiece of REAGANomics pass?

While he was out of commission. Of course, we are going to give him CREDIT for that,

because we're ******* rightwing partisan hack imbeciles...

lord help them

 

[PoliticalChic]

“Nearly ten years ago Friedman stated his real motives for all the world to read. For the record, Tom Friedman is walking excrement. Let’s not forget how he responded to the thuggish actions of Billy Jeff and Janet Waco with their attack on the Constitution and common decency:

“Yup, I gotta confess, that now-famous picture of a U.S. marshal in Miami pointing an automatic weapon toward Donato Dalrymple and ordering him in the name of the U.S. government to turn over Elian Gonzalez warmed my heart.”- Thomas Friedman , April 2000
Infidel Bloggers Alliance: Tom Friedman: Standard Issue Liberal Fascist

 

[Truthmatters]

The court decided it didnt they.

So why do you keep lying about it?

 

[boedicca]

Friedman is a Statist Hack. Just like Obama, he thinks China has a better system.

One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century. It is not an accident that China is committed to overtaking us in electric cars, solar power, energy efficiency, batteries, nuclear power and wind power. China’s leaders understand that in a world of exploding populations and rising emerging-market middle classes, demand for clean power and energy efficiency is going to soar. Beijing wants to make sure that it owns that industry and is ordering the policies to do that, including boosting gasoline prices, from the top down.

Op-Ed Columnist - Our One-Party Democracy - NYTimes.com