REAGAN the movie

[JoeB131]

Get out of the thread if you’re not going to understand what is being discussed.

If you somehow magically think our government’s massive war spending and trillions wasted on multiple dumb wars is appropriate, you’re a dumb MFer.

I understand exactly what is being discussed, how Ronald Reagan rebuilt our military after the hippies dismantled it after Vietnam.

I think Reagan did some things that were kind of wrong, such as his anti-union stance, but rebuilding a first class military wasn't one of them.

 

[gipper]

I understand exactly what is being discussed, how Ronald Reagan rebuilt our military after the hippies dismantled it after Vietnam.

I think Reagan did some things that were kind of wrong, such as his anti-union stance, but rebuilding a first class military wasn't one of them.

After all that’s occurred in the last 30 years, you post this. Lol.

Hey it’s not 1980 dumb ass.

 

[JoeB131]

After all that’s occurred in the last 30 years, you post this. Lol.

Hey it’s not 1980 dumb ass.

But this thread is about Reagan, right?

 

[gipper]

But this thread is about Reagan, right?

As I said, stop posting if you’re not aware of what is being discussed.

 

[Hector12]

That's a little dishonest, Cockroach.

Russia and China have lower costs of living and they conscript their militaries. Sure, we have to spend more because we have to pay our military members a salary that is competitive with the civilian sector.



Afghanistan sheltered people who knocked down the towers, Cockroach. Did you forget that happened?

Iraq was living under a brutal dictator who attacked all his neighbors, including your beloved Zionist Entity. (Who were really the ones who provoked that war.)

Vietnam- that was 55 years ago, get over yourself.

Isis could not have won in Afghanistan without popular support. The same can be said of the Communists in Vietnam.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

the sheep in America refuse to accept facts it was Gorby who was instrumental in that in it would have happened no matter who was president NO MATTER HOW MUCH DOCUMENTATION YOU GIVE THEM THEY WONT LOOK AT IT.

REFUSE TO BOTHER TRYING TO ENGAGE WITH THE BRAINWASHED.

I distinctly recall listening to Reagan on TV from the second home i owned in the early eighties

He was so smooth, everything he said made sense , seemed to fit and apply........until i had to live it

~S~

Agreed. Unfortunately it isn’t just the R Party who loves lavishing the war contractors with our money.

Nothing is more bipartisan than war spending.

Indeed,BOTH the Demopublicans and Reprocrats excel at that and have for DECADES.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

After all that’s occurred in the last 30 years, you post this. Lol.

Hey it’s not 1980 dumb ass.

Get out of the thread if you’re not going to understand what is being discussed.

If you somehow magically think our government’s massive war spending and trillions wasted on multiple dumb wars is appropriate, you’re a dumb MFer.

there can no longer be any kind of debate that Reagan was indeed a traiter to America gipper , the majority at USMB ALL know that Joe is a paid shill for the CIA. case closed.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Reagan stole weapons from his nation, sold them to a régime his nation had forbidden such dealings with and used the illegal funds in an illegal, un-Constitutional fashion to arm groups his nation had forbidden arming. That is only part of his miserable history. He was just a "feel good" illusion that facile minds love to worship.

Reagan killed conservatism. Does the movie cover that?

Does it discuss his relationships with fascist dictators ?




Indeed,but because it does not go along with the official version and narrative told by hollywood,,the CIA controlled media,and our corrupt school system,they of course will not include that in the movie.

sense those facts tear down the myth of reagan,it gets left out of the movie

 

[JoeB131]

Isis could not have won in Afghanistan without popular support. The same can be said of the Communists in Vietnam.

We weren't fighting ISIS in Afghanistan.

We were fighting the Taliban.

In both cases, we just decided to stop propping up unpopular governments.

 

[Hector12]

We weren't fighting ISIS in Afghanistan.

We were fighting the Taliban.

In both cases, we just decided to stop propping up unpopular governments.

What you say is true.

The government in Afghanistan was unpopular because it opposed the Taliban.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Bill Clinton.

Under Clinton there was low inflation, low unemployment, and he briefly brought down the national debt.

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sorry to burst your bubble Hector12 but clinton was as much a piece of shit and traiter to Americans as ************ Reagan was.It was not clinton that did that it was the republicans and the democrats working TOGETHER that accomplished that feat.

Bush and Clinton colluded together to have NAFTA started Which took several thousand jobs away from Americans and got them shipped to mexico.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I distinctly recall listening to Reagan on TV from the second home i owned in the early eighties

He was so smooth, everything he said made sense , seemed to fit and apply........until i had to live it

~S~

Indeed sparky the brainwashed Reagan worshippers were on a deserted Island back in the 80's and never bothered to speak with steel workers and air traffic controllers who lost their jobs because of Reagans policys.

I still to this day recall a coversation i had when i was looking for a job back then at an employment center hearing a steel worker speak that he was there looking for a job uttering the words- OUR COMPANY LAID US ALL OFF AT OUT PLANT,I GOT REAGAN TO THANK FOR THAT WITH HIS POLICYS HE IMPLEMENTED.

true life story the Reagan worshippers REFUSE to accept like an immature child who cannot accept being checkmated. some people hate having their hero torn down to pieces.

 

[JoeB131]

What you say is true.

The government in Afghanistan was unpopular because it opposed the Taliban.

I wouldn't go quite that far.

It was unpopular because it was able to make things better. If Bush hadn't diverted to Iraq, had finished the job with Al Qaeda and the Taliban in 2002 and 2003, the Taliban never would have been able to regroup.

It didn't help that Karzai unnecessarily stole the election in 2009.

Point was, we should have declared mission accomplished right after we made Bin Laden do a dead, and pulled out.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

With two hours and 15 minutes length, could only go into so much detail coverage of an 80+ year lifespan.
The Left have generated enough negative media around Reagan that there was no need to regurgitate this trash in a movie taking a different and more positive focus.

What we see in this thread is a rehash of the long running debate between Left and Right and the opposing values and priorities.

The wife and I also saw the movie yesterday and I think it did an excellent job of covering the positives within a limited time frame. It showed he wasn't the shallow shell that the loony Left likes to portray him as.

Quaid did an excellent job of portraying him.

Books Are Better

Read Dutch, by Edmund Morris. It shows that Reagan was not only a great man; he was a great guy.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Indeed sparky the brainwashed Reagan worshippers were on a deserted Island back in the 80's and never bothered to speak with steel workers and air traffic controllers who lost their jobs because of Reagans policys.

I still to this day recall a coversation i had when i was looking for a job back then at an employment center hearing a steel worker speak that he was there looking for a job uttering the words- OUR COMPANY LAID US ALL OFF AT OUT PLANT,I GOT REAGAN TO THANK FOR THAT WITH HIS POLICYS HE IMPLEMENTED.

true life story the Reagan worshippers REFUSE to accept like an immature child who cannot accept being checkmated. some people hate having their hero torn down to pieces.

Union Members Quit Being Union Men, Blaming Politics for Their Cowardice

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

At the expense of gutting our military and it's preparedness for dealing with post 9/11/2001 by drastic cuts/reductions in funding. Also added to later costs of R&D Projects by abrupt funding cuts that had to be regained in later restarts.
Which Clinton helped to set up with his botched job dealing with OBL and Islamic Jihad.

Both Side Now. But Clouds Get in the Way.

Pro-war draftdodging sissyboy GOPers accused Clinton of "wagging the dog" whenever he did anything against Islamopsychos. Stolen-valor Deserter Dubya and Darth Evader canceled all operations against Nazislamism because they considered it to be "a Jew problem."

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Isis could not have won in Afghanistan without popular support. The same can be said of the Communists in Vietnam.

Survival of the Fittest Is Not Automatic

Racists would have won all three of those ultraliberal wars. Also, they would have known that the end of the Cold War still left us open to job-theft, invasion, and terrorism by greedy and jealous Third World savages.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The government in Afghanistan was unpopular because it opposed the Taliban.

Nuke Tora Bora and Leave

Why should we care about the feelings of mountain monkeys? Not that we should have bothered with the Tail Bunnies anyway.
Conveniently for us, they are Iran's problem now.

Draftdodging Dubya avoided exterminating Al Qaida, which is all he should have done in that fake country. So that war was doubly wrong, too much nation-building and too little to wipe out the real enemy, but we are programmed for shallow interpretations.

 

[Hector12]

Nuke Tora Bora and Leave

Why should we care about the feelings of mountain monkeys?

It is their country.

 

[JoeB131]

It is their country.

Funny, you don't have that same attitude about Palestinians.

Now you are an anti-Imperialist? Don't make me laugh.

The problem with the war on terror is we never treated it like a war. We should have drafted a huge army, raised taxes, and established victory conditions. We never did that.

We just went in, thought the Afghans would be impressed with our awesomeness, and then left them to their own devices.