Ray Rice Is having his life assaulted by NFL!

[dannyboys]

The victim (now his wife) is defending him.....If she doesn't care, why should we?

What confuses me is who has charged Ray with assault? The woman he is alleged to have assaulted married him shortly after the incident in the elevator. Did she say he assaulted her? If she says they were roughhouse playing and she slipped, fell, and was knocked out the worst that could come of it is a charge of disorderly conduct by both parties -- but only if the Casino chose to make that charge.

Did Ray sink his own boat by already admitting to too many individuals that he assaulted her? Even if he did it's not too late to withdraw that and for both to say it was all just playful misconduct. It really depends on what she says. No complaint, no charge.

Ya. The surveillance tape definitely shows her "slipping".
Like the surveillance tape shows 'Big Mike' actually just brushing a piece of lint off the little store clerks shirt.
You are stupid.

 

[WinterBorn]

He beat her down. If he lost control like that once he can do it again.

Society in general, and the NFL in particular, has no business rewarding that behavior. He should be behind bars, whether his wife presses charges or not.

So, you are for a lifetime sentence for striking your wife?

Take care. This reply in no way condones the actions of girly-men who can only feel big by hitting women, but I am asking you if you think that the punishment for such an act should be life in prison.

I see no problem with an organization deciding that they will not associate themselves with such behavior.

No one has said anything about life in prison. He has been told he cannot play in the NFL. There is a huge difference.

A lifetime ban and a life prison sentence. In both cases, the punishment is extreme.

Answer the question. Should a person be sentenced to life in prison for striking their wife? Or better yet, striking their spouse, as women do hit first in some situations.

A lifetime ban from the NFL is not even close to the same as a life sentence in prison. No, I will not answer this strawman lunacy.

 

[mudwhistle]

He beat her down. If he lost control like that once he can do it again.

Society in general, and the NFL in particular, has no business rewarding that behavior. He should be behind bars, whether his wife presses charges or not.

You cannot be convicted for what you might do in the future.

 

[WinterBorn]

He beat her down. If he lost control like that once he can do it again.

Society in general, and the NFL in particular, has no business rewarding that behavior. He should be behind bars, whether his wife presses charges or not.

You cannot be convicted for what you might do in the future.

No you cannot be convicted in a court of law for what you might do. But a private organization can certainly use your prior acts as the basis for deciding they no longer want you working for them.

 

[Darkwind]

He beat her down. If he lost control like that once he can do it again.

Society in general, and the NFL in particular, has no business rewarding that behavior. He should be behind bars, whether his wife presses charges or not.

So, you are for a lifetime sentence for striking your wife?

Take care. This reply in no way condones the actions of girly-men who can only feel big by hitting women, but I am asking you if you think that the punishment for such an act should be life in prison.

I see no problem with an organization deciding that they will not associate themselves with such behavior.

No one has said anything about life in prison. He has been told he cannot play in the NFL. There is a huge difference.

A lifetime ban and a life prison sentence. In both cases, the punishment is extreme.

Answer the question. Should a person be sentenced to life in prison for striking their wife? Or better yet, striking their spouse, as women do hit first in some situations.

A lifetime ban from the NFL is not even close to the same as a life sentence in prison. No, I will not answer this strawman lunacy.

I see.

So, you just want to rave along in your own little world. Its okay with Me.

However, here is My take on this, and you don't even have to answer since you don't want to be bothered with being honest or interested in a discussion on the merits of appropriate punishment.

I think that Rice should have done jail time. Given that spousal abuse is a crime, I think he should have done 18 to 36 months in county lockup for assault. If he behaves, then he can be paroled but will have to attend mandatory anger management classes along with substance abuse classes if it is determined he was intoxicated during this event.

Upon completion of these requirements, his 'debt' will have been paid and he is free to go on with his life.

The NFL should do exactly the same thing, concurrently with the New Jersey penal system. I would ban him for thee length of his incarceration and not permit him to return to football until AFTER he has paid his debt and taken the anger management classes, successfully.

That is appropriate and fair.

This other nonsense is just more bovine excrement by people who think with their hormones and not their brains.

Something that Ray Rice was likely doing at the time.

 

[dannyboys]

He beat her down. If he lost control like that once he can do it again.

Society in general, and the NFL in particular, has no business rewarding that behavior. He should be behind bars, whether his wife presses charges or not.

Putting him in prison won't prevent him from losing control again.

If she did the same to me I might have reacted as he did.

But I have a clean criminal record.

The young man made a mistake.

Answer me this: Taking him out of his only profession and making him live as best he can with his non-football playing job skills is more likely or less likely to push him toward a life of crime?

The monkey was only behaving as he normally did. The 'mistake' he made was forgetting about the video camera. Had there been no surveillance in the elevator neither of them would had said anything about the attack.
Anyway. She'll be gone within a couple of months. Either he'll murder her or she'll go into hiding and get a ghostwriter to write a ******* book. It will sell nine copies. People would rather buy a book on how to pick their nose.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

A man hit a woman? Yes? And?

No one'd be talking about this if he'd hit another man. So clearly there's a hypocritical double-standard in play. If someone needs a good smack, smack em. Doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman. A pain in the ass is a pain in the ass.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

If hitting a woman seems wrong to you, ask yourself if dropping bombs on women is too. If you think ISIS needs bombs dropped on them, women are gonna get liquified along with their men. Why doesn't that upset you, but a punch to one's face is the worst thing ever?

 

[WinterBorn]

He beat her down. If he lost control like that once he can do it again.

Society in general, and the NFL in particular, has no business rewarding that behavior. He should be behind bars, whether his wife presses charges or not.

So, you are for a lifetime sentence for striking your wife?

Take care. This reply in no way condones the actions of girly-men who can only feel big by hitting women, but I am asking you if you think that the punishment for such an act should be life in prison.

I see no problem with an organization deciding that they will not associate themselves with such behavior.

No one has said anything about life in prison. He has been told he cannot play in the NFL. There is a huge difference.

A lifetime ban and a life prison sentence. In both cases, the punishment is extreme.

Answer the question. Should a person be sentenced to life in prison for striking their wife? Or better yet, striking their spouse, as women do hit first in some situations.

A lifetime ban from the NFL is not even close to the same as a life sentence in prison. No, I will not answer this strawman lunacy.

I see.

So, you just want to rave along in your own little world. Its okay with Me.

However, here is My take on this, and you don't even have to answer since you don't want to be bothered with being honest or interested in a discussion on the merits of appropriate punishment.

I think that Rice should have done jail time. Given that spousal abuse is a crime, I think he should have done 18 to 36 months in county lockup for assault. If he behaves, then he can be paroled but will have to attend mandatory anger management classes along with substance abuse classes if it is determined he was intoxicated during this event.

Upon completion of these requirements, his 'debt' will have been paid and he is free to go on with his life.

The NFL should do exactly the same thing, concurrently with the New Jersey penal system. I would ban him for thee length of his incarceration and not permit him to return to football until AFTER he has paid his debt and taken the anger management classes, successfully.

That is appropriate and fair.

This other nonsense is just more bovine excrement by people who think with their hormones and not their brains.

Something that Ray Rice was likely doing at the time.

Oh I am happy to discuss the issue. I just refuse to answer your slanted strawman question.

I agree that Rice should have done jail time. But the NFL gets to choose its own rules for how criminal behavior is dealt with. The image of the entire organization is effected by individual players.

 

[Darkwind]

He beat her down. If he lost control like that once he can do it again.

Society in general, and the NFL in particular, has no business rewarding that behavior. He should be behind bars, whether his wife presses charges or not.

So, you are for a lifetime sentence for striking your wife?

Take care. This reply in no way condones the actions of girly-men who can only feel big by hitting women, but I am asking you if you think that the punishment for such an act should be life in prison.

I see no problem with an organization deciding that they will not associate themselves with such behavior.

No one has said anything about life in prison. He has been told he cannot play in the NFL. There is a huge difference.

A lifetime ban and a life prison sentence. In both cases, the punishment is extreme.

Answer the question. Should a person be sentenced to life in prison for striking their wife? Or better yet, striking their spouse, as women do hit first in some situations.

A lifetime ban from the NFL is not even close to the same as a life sentence in prison. No, I will not answer this strawman lunacy.

I see.

So, you just want to rave along in your own little world. Its okay with Me.

However, here is My take on this, and you don't even have to answer since you don't want to be bothered with being honest or interested in a discussion on the merits of appropriate punishment.

I think that Rice should have done jail time. Given that spousal abuse is a crime, I think he should have done 18 to 36 months in county lockup for assault. If he behaves, then he can be paroled but will have to attend mandatory anger management classes along with substance abuse classes if it is determined he was intoxicated during this event.

Upon completion of these requirements, his 'debt' will have been paid and he is free to go on with his life.

The NFL should do exactly the same thing, concurrently with the New Jersey penal system. I would ban him for thee length of his incarceration and not permit him to return to football until AFTER he has paid his debt and taken the anger management classes, successfully.

That is appropriate and fair.

This other nonsense is just more bovine excrement by people who think with their hormones and not their brains.

Something that Ray Rice was likely doing at the time.

Oh I am happy to discuss the issue. I just refuse to answer your slanted strawman question.

I agree that Rice should have done jail time. But the NFL gets to choose its own rules for how criminal behavior is dealt with. The image of the entire organization is effected by individual players.

Like I said. There was no need to reply. You're not a serious thinker or person. Just another person who makes hasty judgements based upon how they feel.

Have a nice day.

 

[dannyboys]

If hitting a woman seems wrong to you, ask yourself if dropping bombs on women is too. If you think ISIS needs bombs dropped on them, women are gonna get liquified along with their men. Why doesn't that upset you, but a punch to one's face is the worst thing ever?

You're stupid.
Domestic violence does not in any way equate to attempting to destroy an enemy on the battlefield. ISIS is at war with the rest of the world.
Women and children have always been casualties of every conflict between opposing sides.
There have been and still are instances when men hide behind their women and children. You know. Like the 'sand-monkeys are doing throughout the ME.

 

[dannyboys]

A man hit a woman? Yes? And?

No one'd be talking about this if he'd hit another man. So clearly there's a hypocritical double-standard in play. If someone needs a good smack, smack em. Doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman. A pain in the ass is a pain in the ass.

Men are generally stronger physically than women. Since the beginning of civilization it has always been seen as wrong to victimise someone who is not able to fight back at the same level of strength.
Men who victimise the weaker in society are seen as bullies and cowards.......for good reason.
You know. Like what 'Big Mike' did to the little store clerk a third 'Big Mike's' size. A bully and a coward in the extreme.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The victim (now his wife) is defending him.....If she doesn't care, why should we?

Because we're not stupid. If you are murdered and no one cares does that make it okay?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

A character flaw? It was a crime, pure and simple. Six months in jail and anger management classes would help. As for women defending those that beat them, they do so because:
1. The husband is the bread winner and when their husband goes to jail, the income stops.
2. They think that after he apologizes and promises that he loves her and won't ever do it again, that he speaks the truth. What generally happens is that he does eventually do it again, and again.
That's why they have shelters in the cities for battered women.
Some of the battered women are eventually beaten to death by their husbands.
Most likely, Rice will eventually punch her again.

Men use physical strength to assault their wives and wives use emotional trauma to assault their husbands. Only one form of abuse gets punished though.

Psycobable bullshit.

 

[WinterBorn]

He beat her down. If he lost control like that once he can do it again.

Society in general, and the NFL in particular, has no business rewarding that behavior. He should be behind bars, whether his wife presses charges or not.

So, you are for a lifetime sentence for striking your wife?

Take care. This reply in no way condones the actions of girly-men who can only feel big by hitting women, but I am asking you if you think that the punishment for such an act should be life in prison.

I see no problem with an organization deciding that they will not associate themselves with such behavior.

No one has said anything about life in prison. He has been told he cannot play in the NFL. There is a huge difference.

A lifetime ban and a life prison sentence. In both cases, the punishment is extreme.

Answer the question. Should a person be sentenced to life in prison for striking their wife? Or better yet, striking their spouse, as women do hit first in some situations.

A lifetime ban from the NFL is not even close to the same as a life sentence in prison. No, I will not answer this strawman lunacy.

I see.

So, you just want to rave along in your own little world. Its okay with Me.

However, here is My take on this, and you don't even have to answer since you don't want to be bothered with being honest or interested in a discussion on the merits of appropriate punishment.

I think that Rice should have done jail time. Given that spousal abuse is a crime, I think he should have done 18 to 36 months in county lockup for assault. If he behaves, then he can be paroled but will have to attend mandatory anger management classes along with substance abuse classes if it is determined he was intoxicated during this event.

Upon completion of these requirements, his 'debt' will have been paid and he is free to go on with his life.

The NFL should do exactly the same thing, concurrently with the New Jersey penal system. I would ban him for thee length of his incarceration and not permit him to return to football until AFTER he has paid his debt and taken the anger management classes, successfully.

That is appropriate and fair.

This other nonsense is just more bovine excrement by people who think with their hormones and not their brains.

Something that Ray Rice was likely doing at the time.

Oh I am happy to discuss the issue. I just refuse to answer your slanted strawman question.

I agree that Rice should have done jail time. But the NFL gets to choose its own rules for how criminal behavior is dealt with. The image of the entire organization is effected by individual players.

Like I said. There was no need to reply. You're not a serious thinker or person. Just another person who makes hasty judgements based upon how they feel.

Have a nice day.

LMAO!! Oh, since I refuse to consider a sentence of life in prison as the equivalent of a ban from the NFL, I am not a serious thinker or person? lol Someday when you grow up you will, hopefully, see the folly in that statement.

Have a nice day.

 

[mudwhistle]

He beat her down. If he lost control like that once he can do it again.

Society in general, and the NFL in particular, has no business rewarding that behavior. He should be behind bars, whether his wife presses charges or not.

You cannot be convicted for what you might do in the future.

No you cannot be convicted in a court of law for what you might do. But a private organization can certainly use your prior acts as the basis for deciding they no longer want you working for them.

Yet they allowed Michael Vick to come back, and he committed felonies and did time for it. What he did to those poor animals is much worse than hitting his wife for spitting on him.

 

[mudwhistle]

He beat her down. If he lost control like that once he can do it again.

Society in general, and the NFL in particular, has no business rewarding that behavior. He should be behind bars, whether his wife presses charges or not.

So, you are for a lifetime sentence for striking your wife?

Take care. This reply in no way condones the actions of girly-men who can only feel big by hitting women, but I am asking you if you think that the punishment for such an act should be life in prison.

I see no problem with an organization deciding that they will not associate themselves with such behavior.

No one has said anything about life in prison. He has been told he cannot play in the NFL. There is a huge difference.

A lifetime ban and a life prison sentence. In both cases, the punishment is extreme.

Answer the question. Should a person be sentenced to life in prison for striking their wife? Or better yet, striking their spouse, as women do hit first in some situations.

A lifetime ban from the NFL is not even close to the same as a life sentence in prison. No, I will not answer this strawman lunacy.

I see.

So, you just want to rave along in your own little world. Its okay with Me.

However, here is My take on this, and you don't even have to answer since you don't want to be bothered with being honest or interested in a discussion on the merits of appropriate punishment.

I think that Rice should have done jail time. Given that spousal abuse is a crime, I think he should have done 18 to 36 months in county lockup for assault. If he behaves, then he can be paroled but will have to attend mandatory anger management classes along with substance abuse classes if it is determined he was intoxicated during this event.

Upon completion of these requirements, his 'debt' will have been paid and he is free to go on with his life.

The NFL should do exactly the same thing, concurrently with the New Jersey penal system. I would ban him for thee length of his incarceration and not permit him to return to football until AFTER he has paid his debt and taken the anger management classes, successfully.

That is appropriate and fair.

This other nonsense is just more bovine excrement by people who think with their hormones and not their brains.

Something that Ray Rice was likely doing at the time.

Oh I am happy to discuss the issue. I just refuse to answer your slanted strawman question.

I agree that Rice should have done jail time. But the NFL gets to choose its own rules for how criminal behavior is dealt with. The image of the entire organization is effected by individual players.

Like I said. There was no need to reply. You're not a serious thinker or person. Just another person who makes hasty judgements based upon how they feel.

Have a nice day.

LMAO!! Oh, since I refuse to consider a sentence of life in prison as the equivalent of a ban from the NFL, I am not a serious thinker or person? lol Someday when you grow up you will, hopefully, see the folly in that statement.

Have a nice day.

The NFL is turning into MSNFL

 

[mudwhistle]

A man hit a woman? Yes? And?

No one'd be talking about this if he'd hit another man. So clearly there's a hypocritical double-standard in play. If someone needs a good smack, smack em. Doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman. A pain in the ass is a pain in the ass.

I cannot justify hitting anyone.

I do think she'll think twice before spitting on him again. Too bad it cost them $29 million to teach her that.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

When we hit it's because we're flustered and can't think of something better. But when someone's being irrational and screaming in your face, and you're literally trapped in an elevator with them, of your available options...

 

[depotoo]

A court of law did. And he was acquitted.

No he wasn't. He was accepted into a diversionary program for first time offenders. If he completes it, stays clean, then he could have the charge expunged after so long.