Ray Rice Is having his life assaulted by NFL!

[Unkotare]

And the GOP war on women hits a shocking new low. You're actually defending this guy...

Now you are being stupid.

Yeah maybe. A "war" indicates a battle between two parties. This was a man taking physical liberties on a helpless woman and conservatives, to nobody's surprise, are defending him.

Stop pretending you give a shit about this woman, you mindless drone.

 

[Iceweasel]

And the GOP war on women hits a shocking new low. You're actually defending this guy...

Your war on intellect hits a shocking new low.

Oh?

It seems to be the conservatives here that primarily think it was totally justifiable for a 250+ lb football pro bowler to punch his girfriend in the face, and leave her prone on the floor.

That wasn't the impression I got. I certainly didn't justify his actions.

 

[candycorn]

And the GOP war on women hits a shocking new low. You're actually defending this guy...

Your war on intellect hits a shocking new low.

Oh?

It seems to be the conservatives here that primarily think it was totally justifiable for a 250+ lb football pro bowler to punch his girfriend in the face, and leave her prone on the floor.

That wasn't the impression I got. I certainly didn't justify his actions.

@Mojo2, and @mudwhistle is making you look bad then.

 

[Iceweasel]

@Mojo2, and @mudwhistle is making you look bad then.

That makes no sense.

 

[Tresha91203]

No he wasn't. He was accepted into a diversionary program for first time offenders. If he completes it, stays clean, then he could have the charge expunged after so long.

Exactly. It was handled through the courts. The NFL has no business getting involved.

They have every business. Why do people lose their jobs when they state, "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman?" Because it negatively impacts the business and the business has to protect its butt. People lose their jobs for making racist comments, too.

His employer tried to keep this small and minor, but once the video went public, they had no choice. They are taking a lot of heat for trying to do it your way and HAVE to do damage control. No employer has to continue to employ someone who costs them money or hurts their business. Owners aren't even immune from the league in that regard.

 

[candycorn]

@Mojo2, and @mudwhistle is making you look bad then.

That makes no sense.

Sure...

And the conservative war on women continues...unabated

 

[mudwhistle]

And the GOP war on women hits a shocking new low. You're actually defending this guy...

Your war on intellect hits a shocking new low.

Oh?

It seems to be the conservatives here that primarily think it was totally justifiable for a 250+ lb football pro bowler to punch his girfriend in the face, and leave her prone on the floor.

That wasn't the impression I got. I certainly didn't justify his actions.

@Mojo2, and @mudwhistle is making you look bad then.

Actually you make every liberal look bad I'm afraid.

I don't condone Ray Rice who weighs closer to 200 lbs and is only 5 ft 8 inches tall, hitting anyone, much less his gf.

I also don't condone the two-faced approach that liberals constantly use when it comes to events. Claiming to be the friend of blacks but turning on them the minute it becomes popular to do so.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

This woman is clearly the victim here and the coward rice should face the full consequences of assault charges. That being said, if she decided to stay with him and it occurs agAin she's an idiot....a third time and a deserving idiot.

 

[Iceweasel]

Without the big salary he isn't going to be quite as appealing.

 

[Bfgrn]

What has happened to Ray Rice is a travesty of justice, it is patently unjust that he has received a lifetime suspension from the league. The assaultive behavior Ray Rice displayed in the Casino elevator was absolutely wrong and the National Football league should speak out on it and they did so with a two game suspension that probably would have cost Ray in excess of one hundred thousand dollars in salary.


The problem with our society on these domestic assault cases where there is a big media swirl around like this Ray Rice case and the Chris Brown case is it does not distinguish between cases where the perpetrator was acting out of character or to put it another way just made a mistake and cases where the perpetrator uses women like a punching bag in other words has a character problem in this area. For Ray Rice this isn't a hitting women character problem it is a problem where he lost full physical control of himself this could happen to the majority of men in America under certain circumstances. When you get past the fact Ray knocked out a women and one looks at the video carefully and with balance it is not that incriminating after Ray hit Janay the first time when they were in each others face he immediately backs up and Janay rushes him like she wants to beat his butt and then Ray gives her an upper cut and she falls to the ground this strike by Ray could fairly be characterized as reflexive an automatic defensive movement. This few moments of loss of control by Ray where no one was seriously permanently hurt should not end Ray's football career it is unfair and unjust.


The football players union should do something about the NFL's excessive punishment standard for domestic abuse. They should force the league to roll back the league's lifetime ban for one offense and make the limits be as long as no permanent severe disability has occurred to the victim: a maximum one year ban for the first offense, a maximum two year ban for the second offense and for third or more offenses a lifetime ban is permitted. Roger Goodell and the team owners are making a big mistake here with this one strike and your out standard because consider this Ray Rice is a mediocre player so his loss to the league likely won't change the future of a franchise and its team of players but eventually a super-star player is going to make a transgression in the area of domestic assault and the league because of this standard is going to be forced to end that player's career with a lifetime ban which will affect which team wins the Super-Bowl, and all those team members of the banned players team who don't get the championship will be paying a steep price with the stature and endorsements associated with a super bowl championship and the corresponding city and football fans for that team will also incur a big penalty with such a loss. Team Owners and Mr. Goodell here would benefit from opening up a dictionary and reading the definition of the word shortsighted!

Charles Manson just made a 'mistake'

 

[Rotagilla]

What has happened to Ray Rice is a travesty of justice, it is patently unjust that he has received a lifetime suspension from the league. The assaultive behavior Ray Rice displayed in the Casino elevator was absolutely wrong and the National Football league should speak out on it and they did so with a two game suspension that probably would have cost Ray in excess of one hundred thousand dollars in salary.


The problem with our society on these domestic assault cases where there is a big media swirl around like this Ray Rice case and the Chris Brown case is it does not distinguish between cases where the perpetrator was acting out of character or to put it another way just made a mistake and cases where the perpetrator uses women like a punching bag in other words has a character problem in this area. For Ray Rice this isn't a hitting women character problem it is a problem where he lost full physical control of himself this could happen to the majority of men in America under certain circumstances. When you get past the fact Ray knocked out a women and one looks at the video carefully and with balance it is not that incriminating after Ray hit Janay the first time when they were in each others face he immediately backs up and Janay rushes him like she wants to beat his butt and then Ray gives her an upper cut and she falls to the ground this strike by Ray could fairly be characterized as reflexive an automatic defensive movement. This few moments of loss of control by Ray where no one was seriously permanently hurt should not end Ray's football career it is unfair and unjust.


The football players union should do something about the NFL's excessive punishment standard for domestic abuse. They should force the league to roll back the league's lifetime ban for one offense and make the limits be as long as no permanent severe disability has occurred to the victim: a maximum one year ban for the first offense, a maximum two year ban for the second offense and for third or more offenses a lifetime ban is permitted. Roger Goodell and the team owners are making a big mistake here with this one strike and your out standard because consider this Ray Rice is a mediocre player so his loss to the league likely won't change the future of a franchise and its team of players but eventually a super-star player is going to make a transgression in the area of domestic assault and the league because of this standard is going to be forced to end that player's career with a lifetime ban which will affect which team wins the Super-Bowl, and all those team members of the banned players team who don't get the championship will be paying a steep price with the stature and endorsements associated with a super bowl championship and the corresponding city and football fans for that team will also incur a big penalty with such a loss. Team Owners and Mr. Goodell here would benefit from opening up a dictionary and reading the definition of the word shortsighted!

Charles Manson just made a 'mistake'

Charles Manson?

How many people did he kill?

Zero.

 

[Tresha91203]

@Mojo2, and @mudwhistle is making you look bad then.

That makes no sense.

Sure...

And the conservative war on women continues...unabated

Are you kidding me?! Please scroll through and count the number of conservatives or Republicans who are opposing Mojo, vehemently. Take off your tunnel vision, partisan glasses. You have just turned this from a human issue to a partisan one in an attempt to garner support for your political agenda.

It is suddenly clear what your motivations are, and it is not decreasing domestic violence or you would not have just shit all over half the country. You need their support/assistance to wipe out domestic violence, yet you would rather take the political jab as it is too irresistible for you.

Do you think the actual wife beater is a Republican? Why no political jab at him? Oh, I know, because he's likely to vote your way. If this were Tim Tebow instead of Ray Rice, you'd be screaming politics, right?

We don't need your help, frankly. You do more harm than good.

 

[candycorn]

@Mojo2, and @mudwhistle is making you look bad then.

That makes no sense.

Sure...

And the conservative war on women continues...unabated

Are you kidding me?! Please scroll through and count the number of conservatives or Republicans who are opposing Mojo, vehemently. Take off your tunnel vision, partisan glasses. You have just turned this from a human issue to a partisan one in an attempt to garner support for your political agenda.

It is suddenly clear what your motivations are, and it is not decreasing domestic violence or you would not have just shit all over half the country. You need their support/assistance to wipe out domestic violence, yet you would rather take the political jab as it is too irresistible for you.

Do you think the actual wife beater is a Republican? Why no political jab at him? Oh, I know, because he's likely to vote your way. If this were Tim Tebow instead of Ray Rice, you'd be screaming politics, right?

We don't need your help, frankly. You do more harm than good.

Fair point. I apologize to you and whomever I may have offended with my generalizations.

Still, the OP is a rabid political conservative who seems to see no foul in what Ray Rice did. Is it a political issue? No. Is Mudwhistle a rabid political conservative? Yes. He reports that the NFL is becoming the MSNFL.
Still, I shouldn't have gone there, I apologize for my generalization in this case. I hear what you're saying.

 

[candycorn]

And the GOP war on women hits a shocking new low. You're actually defending this guy...

Your war on intellect hits a shocking new low.

Oh?

It seems to be the conservatives here that primarily think it was totally justifiable for a 250+ lb football pro bowler to punch his girfriend in the face, and leave her prone on the floor.

That wasn't the impression I got. I certainly didn't justify his actions.

@Mojo2, and @mudwhistle is making you look bad then.

Actually you make every liberal look bad I'm afraid.

I don't condone Ray Rice who weighs closer to 200 lbs and is only 5 ft 8 inches tall, hitting anyone, much less his gf.

I also don't condone the two-faced approach that liberals constantly use when it comes to events. Claiming to be the friend of blacks but turning on them the minute it becomes popular to do so.

Yeah sure...we are able to divide the act and the actor...more than you ever will be obviously.

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Start your tap dancing...

 

[Tresha91203]

Thank you. Political message boards are emotional and I certainly understand that. I apologize for getting all soapboxy. On vacation this week so just woke up. I'm grumpy until I finish my 3rd cuppa. Cheers ♥

@Mojo2, and @mudwhistle is making you look bad then.

That makes no sense.

Sure...

And the conservative war on women continues...unabated

Are you kidding me?! Please scroll through and count the number of conservatives or Republicans who are opposing Mojo, vehemently. Take off your tunnel vision, partisan glasses. You have just turned this from a human issue to a partisan one in an attempt to garner support for your political agenda.

It is suddenly clear what your motivations are, and it is not decreasing domestic violence or you would not have just shit all over half the country. You need their support/assistance to wipe out domestic violence, yet you would rather take the political jab as it is too irresistible for you.

Do you think the actual wife beater is a Republican? Why no political jab at him? Oh, I know, because he's likely to vote your way. If this were Tim Tebow instead of Ray Rice, you'd be screaming politics, right?

We don't need your help, frankly. You do more harm than good.

Fair point. I apologize to you and whomever I may have offended with my generalizations.

Still, the OP is a rabid political conservative who seems to see no foul in what Ray Rice did. Is it a political issue? No. Is Mudwhistle a rabid political conservative? Yes. He reports that the NFL is becoming the MSNFL.
Still, I shouldn't have gone there, I apologize for my generalization in this case. I hear what you're saying.

 

[Bfgrn]

He beat her down. If he lost control like that once he can do it again.

Society in general, and the NFL in particular, has no business rewarding that behavior. He should be behind bars, whether his wife presses charges or not.

Absolutely not. Government has no business in the private lives of its citizens. If the wife is OK with what happened, we don't need government sticking its nose and and saying otherwise, never mind judging and punishing.

So, government's role is to gather up the corpses.

 

[mudwhistle]

This woman is clearly the victim here and the coward rice should face the full consequences of assault charges. That being said, if she decided to stay with him and it occurs agAin she's an idiot....a third time and a deserving idiot.

He already has, months ago.

 

[mudwhistle]

What has happened to Ray Rice is a travesty of justice, it is patently unjust that he has received a lifetime suspension from the league. The assaultive behavior Ray Rice displayed in the Casino elevator was absolutely wrong and the National Football league should speak out on it and they did so with a two game suspension that probably would have cost Ray in excess of one hundred thousand dollars in salary.


The problem with our society on these domestic assault cases where there is a big media swirl around like this Ray Rice case and the Chris Brown case is it does not distinguish between cases where the perpetrator was acting out of character or to put it another way just made a mistake and cases where the perpetrator uses women like a punching bag in other words has a character problem in this area. For Ray Rice this isn't a hitting women character problem it is a problem where he lost full physical control of himself this could happen to the majority of men in America under certain circumstances. When you get past the fact Ray knocked out a women and one looks at the video carefully and with balance it is not that incriminating after Ray hit Janay the first time when they were in each others face he immediately backs up and Janay rushes him like she wants to beat his butt and then Ray gives her an upper cut and she falls to the ground this strike by Ray could fairly be characterized as reflexive an automatic defensive movement. This few moments of loss of control by Ray where no one was seriously permanently hurt should not end Ray's football career it is unfair and unjust.


The football players union should do something about the NFL's excessive punishment standard for domestic abuse. They should force the league to roll back the league's lifetime ban for one offense and make the limits be as long as no permanent severe disability has occurred to the victim: a maximum one year ban for the first offense, a maximum two year ban for the second offense and for third or more offenses a lifetime ban is permitted. Roger Goodell and the team owners are making a big mistake here with this one strike and your out standard because consider this Ray Rice is a mediocre player so his loss to the league likely won't change the future of a franchise and its team of players but eventually a super-star player is going to make a transgression in the area of domestic assault and the league because of this standard is going to be forced to end that player's career with a lifetime ban which will affect which team wins the Super-Bowl, and all those team members of the banned players team who don't get the championship will be paying a steep price with the stature and endorsements associated with a super bowl championship and the corresponding city and football fans for that team will also incur a big penalty with such a loss. Team Owners and Mr. Goodell here would benefit from opening up a dictionary and reading the definition of the word shortsighted!

Charles Manson just made a 'mistake'

When Ray Rice murders as many as 30 people then you can use this analogy.

 

[mudwhistle]

And the GOP war on women hits a shocking new low. You're actually defending this guy...

Your war on intellect hits a shocking new low.

Oh?

It seems to be the conservatives here that primarily think it was totally justifiable for a 250+ lb football pro bowler to punch his girfriend in the face, and leave her prone on the floor.

That wasn't the impression I got. I certainly didn't justify his actions.

@Mojo2, and @mudwhistle is making you look bad then.

Actually you make every liberal look bad I'm afraid.

I don't condone Ray Rice who weighs closer to 200 lbs and is only 5 ft 8 inches tall, hitting anyone, much less his gf.

I also don't condone the two-faced approach that liberals constantly use when it comes to events. Claiming to be the friend of blacks but turning on them the minute it becomes popular to do so.

Yeah sure...we are able to divide the act and the actor...more than you ever will be obviously.

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Start your tap dancing...

Thanks for the advice Fred Astaire.

 

[Synthaholic]

If she is smart, she will divorce him now. She'll end up with a huge settlement before the money disappears.