Ramaswamy says he’d deport children of undocumented immigrants born in the US, calling 14th amendment ‘contested’

[Unkotare]

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I’m no Republican but kids are a STD so far as I’m concerned. I’m very happy to have none of my own.,

The whole world is happy you are repugnant and shooting blanks. One useless piece of shit like you is enough for the planet.

 

[Unkotare]

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there are too many variables and other, more important fights.

Indeed.

 

[leftwinger]

The whole world is happy you are repugnant and shooting blanks. One useless piece of shit like you is enough for the planet.

Better watch out if you want to keep posting as one of them is after certain scalps.//

 

[surada]

This made no sense at all.

I was just correcting someone who is often wrong.

I'm already on record in saying that it will take an act of legislation to change the birthright citizenship law. Nothing has changed My mind about that.

You have no clue about the legal theory. Try reading the statute and learn what "jurisdiction" means.

8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Darkwind]

You have no clue about the legal theory. Try reading the statute and learn what "jurisdiction" means.

8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

www.law.cornell.edu

You'll forgive Me if I don't take your word for it.

 

[Anathema]

The whole world is happy you are repugnant and shooting blanks. One useless piece of shit like you is enough for the planet

Actually my brother and his wife make up for it… 8 kids (and counting). All homeschooled, religious, patriotic, and going strong in the upper Midwest

 

[DudleySmith]

As a child of immigrants, Ramaswamy is fucking cruel

How many illegals to you sponsor?

 

[DudleySmith]

You want to challenge US sovereignty and jurisdiction?

Oh, are you going to pretend you do? lol that's cute.

 

[DudleySmith]

This is a issue worth pushing.

NYC is sniveling and they've only had 100,000 or so sent there. The people who will be screaming for a change won't be Republicans but 'sanctuary city' hypocrites, lol.

 

[rightwinger]

I'm sure you meant to say, "As a child of Legal immigrants".

Very condescending to those less fortunate

 

[Ropey]

The whole world is happy you are repugnant and shooting blanks. One useless piece of shit like you is enough for the planet.

Is this the flame zone or is this allowed in the gen forum now?

If so, I want to be part of it. I've got a lot to say in the gen forum.

 

[Moonglow]

That's why the law needs to be changed. Trump was working on that I do believe and once he's in office again I'm sure that he'll get it taken care of.

Ha! You'd need a super majority to change a Constitutional Amendment.

 

[Unkotare]

Actually my brother and his wife make up for it… ....

I'm sure your brother is a fine person. Your impotence spares the world a round 2 of your idiocy.

 

[Anathema]

I'm sure your brother is a fine person. Your impotence spares the world a round 2 of your idiocy

If anything he and his wife are MORE Conservative and Extreme than I am.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Though the 14th Amendment was passed after the Civil War and meant to guarantee equal civil rights for newly emancipated “Freedmen” against attacks by Southern States (where most ex-slaves lived), the defeat of Reconstruction meant most black Americans, especially in the Deep South, were soon again denied their basic rights. “Jim Crow” apartheid, enforced by “laws” and white racist terror sunk deep roots in the South, and both legal and de facto racial discrimination became the terrible norm nationwide. African-Americans became an oppressed race-color “caste” in the USA.

In actual practice, ironically, during most of the next century the 14th Amendment was used in the courts mainly to extend and protect the rights of corporations from infringement by the states (or Federal government). Of course it was also used — gradually — to extend “due process” to ordinary white citizens and businesses whose rights were not being fully and equally recognized.

Today, we treat corporations as having full “personhood” rights — and since corporations are for all intents and purposes capable of living forever and have other rights not applicable to individuals, our 14th Amendment has proven quite essential, including after the modern civil rights movement, to shaping our strange, economically unequal and unfair, but still “free” society.

I agree that the clear wording of the Constitution protects birthright citizenship rights. Indeed, even foreigners, even illegals, are “persons,” and they too have certain rights under our Constitution and laws, at least as they are and have been upheld by our courts to this day.

Frankly, at this time of immense national disunity, we ought to move very carefully before we even consider changes to our Constitution.

 

[Magnus]

Ramaswamy is a hustler making promises he knows full well he can't keep. Children born in this country are by default American citizens regardless of their parent's status. He know this and also knows full well he will lose any challenge to the 14th Amendment.

Ramaswamy says he’d deport children of undocumented immigrants, calls 14th Amendment ‘contested’

GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said Friday he would deport the children of undocumented immigrants with their families, despite them already being U.S. citizens. “There are legally cont…

thehill.com

Well... trumptards are used to big lies and no follow-through. It's the big talk that counts. Who cares about constitutional rights, etc.?

Lock Her Up and Mexico will pay for the wall comes to mind.

 

[Magnus]

So what happened to Roe v Wade? These were not chiseled in stone by God himself?

Exactly. Neither was the Second Amendment chiseled in stone by God. Can be got rid of, amIright?

 

[Crepitus]

Ramaswamy is a hustler making promises he knows full well he can't keep. Children born in this country are by default American citizens regardless of their parent's status. He know this and also knows full well he will lose any challenge to the 14th Amendment.

Ramaswamy says he’d deport children of undocumented immigrants, calls 14th Amendment ‘contested’

GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said Friday he would deport the children of undocumented immigrants with their families, despite them already being U.S. citizens. “There are legally cont…

thehill.com

As far as I know the 14th A isn't "contested".

 

[Seymour Flops]

Whether Ramaswamy would actually be able to do anything about birthright citizenship is not the point.

The point is that he is hoping that voters will vote for a man who says that he will, whether those voters believe that he will be successful or not. They will, but that man will be Donald Trump, and Ramaswamy knows it. Ramaswamy is looking for the VP slot, but I believe that will be Noem, no pun intended.

 

[rampart]

No Founders wrote the 14th amendment. It was written in 1876. The purpose was to secure the children of slaves as free American citizens. Ironically the concept of future illegals using the 14th amendment as a backdoor to American benefits was dismissed. Future Americans would be too wise to ever let that happen.

from my first sentence:

not to mention the" radical repubs" who wrote the 14th amendment,

i mentioned the founders only to connect thus issue to the federalist Fantasy of "originalism.