Radicals Abort Free Speech Rights of Leftists.

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Gunny and others here, have said all socialists are leftists and all socialists are leftists.

Do you disagree with the leftists or the radicals in the story below?

Here is another story of radicals attempting to -- some would say succeeding -- abort the free speech of other Americans:

Apr. 17: A man looks for help as an anti-Nazi crowd converges on him, suspecting him to be a white supremacist, at Los Angeles City Hall.

People here have supported the idea stopping or stifling the voice of the Family Phelps from protesting at the funerals of returning warriors.

Do you support this type of action, action that is counter protesting? Do you support out shouting others who are exercising their rights to free speech---attempting to prevent them from exercising their free speech rights?

Do you support people doing this to the Family Phelps?

I bet lots of people here are on both sides of these issues because they lack firm principles. They posses only a firm sense of ideological lunacy or worse, party affiliation ---over principles

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When counter demonstrators show up at these Nazi or Klan rallies they are just giving those hate groups exactly what they want which is attention. It would send a far more powerful message if 50 Neo-Nazis marched through town and no one paid an ounce of attention to them.
 
When counter demonstrators show up at these Nazi or Klan rallies they are just giving those hate groups exactly what they want which is attention. It would send a far more powerful message if 50 Neo-Nazis marched through town and no one paid an ounce of attention to them.

I agree...you turn your backs on them.

Aren't the Nazi's socialists?

Why are leftists shouting down socialists?

What about free speech?

What about protesting somebody who is exercising their free speech rights?
 
Gunny and others here, have said all socialists are leftists and all socialists are leftists.

Do you disagree with the leftists or the radicals in the story below?

Here is another story of radicals attempting to -- some would say succeeding -- abort the free speech of other Americans:

Apr. 17: A man looks for help as an anti-Nazi crowd converges on him, suspecting him to be a white supremacist, at Los Angeles City Hall.

People here have supported the idea stopping or stifling the voice of the Family Phelps from protesting at the funerals of returning warriors.

Do you support this type of action, action that is counter protesting? Do you support out shouting others who are exercising their rights to free speech---attempting to prevent them from exercising their free speech rights?

Do you support people doing this to the Family Phelps?

I bet lots of people here are on both sides of these issues because they lack firm principles. They posses only a firm sense of ideological lunacy or worse, party affiliation ---over principles

:eusa_whistle:.

:eusa_whistle:

hmmm...

Could Gunny and others be full of shit?
 
When counter demonstrators show up at these Nazi or Klan rallies they are just giving those hate groups exactly what they want which is attention. It would send a far more powerful message if 50 Neo-Nazis marched through town and no one paid an ounce of attention to them.

I agree...you turn your backs on them.

Aren't the Nazi's socialists?

Why are leftists shouting down socialists?

What about free speech?

What about protesting somebody who is exercising their free speech rights?

Nazis called themselves National Socialists, and the USSR called itself socialist, and China calls itself socialist, and Cuba calls itself socialist, and so do many other organizations, governments, etc. But, if you study socialism as a philosophy then you would know that these organizations aren't socialists - they just used the title to dupe the working and lower classes into revolting and putting them into power.

If you want to better understand or see what American socialists believe or think - you can get a pretty good idea looking at the economic and governmental systems of Western democracies in Europe.
 
I agree...you turn your backs on them.

Aren't the Nazi's socialists?

Why are leftists shouting down socialists?

What about free speech?

What about protesting somebody who is exercising their free speech rights?

Nazis called themselves National Socialists, and the USSR called itself socialist, and China calls itself socialist, and Cuba calls itself socialist, and so do many other organizations, governments, etc. But, if you study socialism as a philosophy then you would know that these organizations aren't socialists - they just used the title to dupe the working and lower classes into revolting and putting them into power.

If you want to better understand or see what American socialists believe or think - you can get a pretty good idea looking at the economic and governmental systems of Western democracies in Europe.

I understand.

I am trying to highlight a few things here.

One:
most people here haven't any principles.

Two:
All arguments that the left is socialist and liberals and Democrats are supported by the socialists are bogus.


why no principles?
because people who defend attacking some protesters or silencing them are selective in how they support rights
 
Gunny and others here, have said all socialists are leftists and all socialists are leftists.

Golly... the Gunny said that and the Gunny said that? Really and Really?

Do you disagree with the leftists or the radicals in the story below?

Here is another story of radicals attempting to -- some would say succeeding -- abort the free speech of other Americans:

Apr. 17: A man looks for help as an anti-Nazi crowd converges on him, suspecting him to be a white supremacist, at Los Angeles City Hall.

People here have supported the idea stopping or stifling the voice of the Family Phelps from protesting at the funerals of returning warriors.

Do you support this type of action, action that is counter protesting? Do you support out shouting others who are exercising their rights to free speech---attempting to prevent them from exercising their free speech rights?

Do you support people doing this to the Family Phelps?

I bet lots of people here are on both sides of these issues because they lack firm principles. They posses only a firm sense of ideological lunacy or worse, party affiliation ---over principles

:eusa_whistle:.

:eusa_whistle:


Here's my thinking on free-speech... Speak freely and expect to experience the consequences of what ever it was ya said.

Ya see DUMBASS! Contrary to the douchery of Left-think... there is no principle in nature which would prevent anyone from being held accountable for their speech.

This is common misnomer, often confused by anti-Americans; OKA: Leftists, who ignorantly, or perhaps FOOLISHLY believe that the 1st amendment in the US Bill of Rights, within the US Constitution guarantees that the US Federal Legislature will not make any laws limiting the means of the individual from speaking; thus precluding the power of the US government from usurping the means of the individual to exercise their divinely endowed right to speak freely.
 
I agree...you turn your backs on them.

Aren't the Nazi's socialists?

Why are leftists shouting down socialists?

What about free speech?

What about protesting somebody who is exercising their free speech rights?

Nazis called themselves National Socialists, and the USSR called itself socialist, and China calls itself socialist, and Cuba calls itself socialist, and so do many other organizations, governments, etc. But, if you study socialism as a philosophy then you would know that these organizations aren't socialists - they just used the title to dupe the working and lower classes into revolting and putting them into power.

If you want to better understand or see what American socialists believe or think - you can get a pretty good idea looking at the economic and governmental systems of Western democracies in Europe.


ROFLMNAO...

Of ALL the POSSIBLE LESSONS that one could take away from the fact that all of the socialist cultures were the OPPOSITE of what they promised to BE... YOU IDIOTS CONCLUDED THAT THEY WERE NOT SOCIALISTS!

Bad news Scooter... SOCIALIST ARE: LIARS AND FOOLS!
 
Dante, you need to learn from the Nazis. Starting a thread with spite and rhetoric about how wrong those things are. There are many principled people on this board. Their principles allow them to identify when free speech has gone over the line from a right to law breaking, disrespect and abuse of others. Once past these points, free speech may not be free speech.

Free speech was meant to protect us from the government supressing opposition. Now you expect us to believe it is meant to allow you to spout profanities, yet restrict where you can see the ten commandments; allow gays to express themselves in schools, but keep religion out. Even in the world of USMB there are limits. They serve a useful and needed purpose.
 
Gunny and others here, have said all socialists are leftists and all socialists are leftists.

Do you disagree with the leftists or the radicals in the story below?

Here is another story of radicals attempting to -- some would say succeeding -- abort the free speech of other Americans:

Apr. 17: A man looks for help as an anti-Nazi crowd converges on him, suspecting him to be a white supremacist, at Los Angeles City Hall.

People here have supported the idea stopping or stifling the voice of the Family Phelps from protesting at the funerals of returning warriors.

Do you support this type of action, action that is counter protesting? Do you support out shouting others who are exercising their rights to free speech---attempting to prevent them from exercising their free speech rights?

Do you support people doing this to the Family Phelps?

I bet lots of people here are on both sides of these issues because they lack firm principles. They posses only a firm sense of ideological lunacy or worse, party affiliation ---over principles

:eusa_whistle:.

:eusa_whistle:

Do you support it? You have NEVER complained when Ann Coulter is denied a right to speak. Nor any other Conservative.
 
Dante, you need to learn from the Nazis. Starting a thread with spite and rhetoric about how wrong those things are. There are many principled people on this board. Their principles allow them to identify when free speech has gone over the line from a right to law breaking, disrespect and abuse of others. Once past these points, free speech may not be free speech.

Free speech was meant to protect us from the government supressing opposition. Now you expect us to believe it is meant to allow you to spout profanities, yet restrict where you can see the ten commandments; allow gays to express themselves in schools, but keep religion out. Even in the world of USMB there are limits. They serve a useful and needed purpose.

Spite? :lol:


There are few principled people on this board as the posts here prove.


I expect you to believe what your heart desires about what the right to free speech allows. I need no lesson in history from an intellectual coward and lightweight like you. :eusa_whistle:

The limits I see are the limits of your critical thinking skills.
 
Gunny and others here, have said all socialists are leftists and all socialists are leftists.

Do you disagree with the leftists or the radicals in the story below?

Here is another story of radicals attempting to -- some would say succeeding -- abort the free speech of other Americans:

Apr. 17: A man looks for help as an anti-Nazi crowd converges on him, suspecting him to be a white supremacist, at Los Angeles City Hall.

People here have supported the idea stopping or stifling the voice of the Family Phelps from protesting at the funerals of returning warriors.

Do you support this type of action, action that is counter protesting? Do you support out shouting others who are exercising their rights to free speech---attempting to prevent them from exercising their free speech rights?

Do you support people doing this to the Family Phelps?

I bet lots of people here are on both sides of these issues because they lack firm principles. They posses only a firm sense of ideological lunacy or worse, party affiliation ---over principles

:eusa_whistle:.

:eusa_whistle:

Do you support it? You have NEVER complained when Ann Coulter is denied a right to speak. Nor any other Conservative.

Yes I have complained when people keep others from being heard. But as far as this thread and the OP is concerned, I n-e-v-e-r took positions, I asked a questions.
 
Dante, you need to learn from the Nazis. Starting a thread with spite and rhetoric about how wrong those things are. There are many principled people on this board. Their principles allow them to identify when free speech has gone over the line from a right to law breaking, disrespect and abuse of others. Once past these points, free speech may not be free speech.

Free speech was meant to protect us from the government supressing opposition. Now you expect us to believe it is meant to allow you to spout profanities, yet restrict where you can see the ten commandments; allow gays to express themselves in schools, but keep religion out. Even in the world of USMB there are limits. They serve a useful and needed purpose.

Spite? :lol:


There are few principled people on this board as the posts here prove.


I expect you to believe what your heart desires about what the right to free speech allows. I need no lesson in history from an intellectual coward and lightweight like you. :eusa_whistle:

The limits I see are the limits of your critical thinking skills.

Yes spiteful. You had an agenda, that is clear. You choose to ignore the principles, because you would have to admit your opponents may be actual people and not the demons you want to make them out to be.

This thread has no bearing on whether principled people exist on this board. WHat sort of fool thinks they have any type of scientific proof by making a thread?

So you acknowledge no limits to free speech? Things created by man are always flawed in some regard. Your failure to understand that makes you the lightweight here.
 
When counter demonstrators show up at these Nazi or Klan rallies they are just giving those hate groups exactly what they want which is attention. It would send a far more powerful message if 50 Neo-Nazis marched through town and no one paid an ounce of attention to them.

Uh...Ya.....That strategy worked out real well for the Jews in Germany and Poland.

Good call.
 
Yes spiteful. You had an agenda, that is clear. You choose to ignore the principles, because you would have to admit your opponents may be actual people and not the demons you want to make them out to be.

This thread has no bearing on whether principled people exist on this board. WHat sort of fool thinks they have any type of scientific proof by making a thread?

So you acknowledge no limits to free speech? Things created by man are always flawed in some regard. Your failure to understand that makes you the lightweight here.

It is beyond doubt that I am one of a handful of people here who does NOT view the opposition as an enemy. I do not demonize people here. Although some demonize themselves. I have pos rep-ed and stood up for people I have very few agreements with.

Any fool with a few days viewing here can see the hypocrisy and ideological lunacy here that negates principles.
 
Yes spiteful. You had an agenda, that is clear. You choose to ignore the principles, because you would have to admit your opponents may be actual people and not the demons you want to make them out to be.

This thread has no bearing on whether principled people exist on this board. WHat sort of fool thinks they have any type of scientific proof by making a thread?

So you acknowledge no limits to free speech? Things created by man are always flawed in some regard. Your failure to understand that makes you the lightweight here.

It is beyond doubt that I am one of a handful of people here who does NOT view the opposition as an enemy. I do not demonize people here. Although some demonize themselves. I have pos rep-ed and stood up for people I have very few agreements with.

Any fool with a few days viewing here can see the hypocrisy and ideological lunacy here that negates principles.

Only in your own mind.
 
Gunny and others here, have said all socialists are leftists and all socialists are leftists.

Do you disagree with the leftists or the radicals in the story below?

Here is another story of radicals attempting to -- some would say succeeding -- abort the free speech of other Americans:

Apr. 17: A man looks for help as an anti-Nazi crowd converges on him, suspecting him to be a white supremacist, at Los Angeles City Hall.

People here have supported the idea stopping or stifling the voice of the Family Phelps from protesting at the funerals of returning warriors.

Do you support this type of action, action that is counter protesting? Do you support out shouting others who are exercising their rights to free speech---attempting to prevent them from exercising their free speech rights?

Do you support people doing this to the Family Phelps?

I bet lots of people here are on both sides of these issues because they lack firm principles. They posses only a firm sense of ideological lunacy or worse, party affiliation ---over principles

:eusa_whistle:.

:eusa_whistle:

Your accusation is baseless. I have never made any such statement.

Why are YOU trying so hard to censor people on the right by telling lies?
 
Yes spiteful. You had an agenda, that is clear. You choose to ignore the principles, because you would have to admit your opponents may be actual people and not the demons you want to make them out to be.

This thread has no bearing on whether principled people exist on this board. WHat sort of fool thinks they have any type of scientific proof by making a thread?

So you acknowledge no limits to free speech? Things created by man are always flawed in some regard. Your failure to understand that makes you the lightweight here.

It is beyond doubt that I am one of a handful of people here who does NOT view the opposition as an enemy. I do not demonize people here. Although some demonize themselves. I have pos rep-ed and stood up for people I have very few agreements with.

Any fool with a few days viewing here can see the hypocrisy and ideological lunacy here that negates principles.

Only in your own mind.

naw, only in reality.
 

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