Ok, I'll bite. But from your link, while very informative, it doesn't really suggest the source of this conflict, but only the sources influencing it, sadly. I'll guess I have something new to learn, now, tho
Hey, I'm not the one making endless excuses for Buddhists killing Muslims (and, unlike both you and I, the author I quoted has actually been there ... not just reading about it on the internet).
You just seem to have funny ideas about when it "has to do with religion"
And I am not the one being the apologist for the Muslims murdering innocent people (including their own because of their sect) in many places of the world today as you always appear to do. If you can tell us why the Sunni and Shia have been killing each other since the inception of Islam and it doesn't have anything to do with religion, go right ahead and give us your opinion. Perhaps you can tell us why so many Christians in the Muslim world have been murdered if not for their religion. You can do the same with the Hindus and the Buddhists. Hey, look at all the fun you will have making excuses for the Muslims.
. Those silly peaceful Buddhists and Hindus.
Hey, I'm not the one making endless excuses for Buddhists killing Muslims (and, unlike both you and I, the author I quoted has actually been there ... not just reading about it on the internet).
You just seem to have funny ideas about when it "has to do with religion"
And I am not the one being the apologist for the Muslims murdering innocent people (including their own because of their sect) in many places of the world today as you always appear to do. If you can tell us why the Sunni and Shia have been killing each other since the inception of Islam and it doesn't have anything to do with religion, go right ahead and give us your opinion. Perhaps you can tell us why so many Christians in the Muslim world have been murdered if not for their religion. You can do the same with the Hindus and the Buddhists. Hey, look at all the fun you will have making excuses for the Muslims.
Who's this "us"? Are there voices in your head?
Perhaps you can do a little historic research rather than expecting others to do it for you it truly smacks of laziness on your part (or simply a desire to troll)
Of course - it's easier to excuse non-Muslim violence and condemn Muslim-violence - makes for better narrative and requires absolutely no effort on your part to engage the thought process. I notice that while you post a prodigious number of articles (many of which I agree with) - they do contain a constant refrain. They are only about violence perpetrated by Muslims.
No, that makes one wonder. Is that what is happening in the real world? Noooo....a little research shows that there are hundreds of conflicts around the world and while many involve Islamic countries they do not all necessarily involve religion as a primary cause: Wars in the World » List of ongoing Conflicts Many of these conflicts are complex - some represent Islamist insurgencies, others are Al Queda fueled, and others seem to be composed of multiple independent tribal/ethnic/religious militias. My guess is that any reasonably intelligent person would look at those conflicts individually rather than assume it's all only about religion.
So why is it Sally doesn't care when it's not Muslims attacking? Apparently Sally really doesn't give a damn....unless Muslims are at the root of it. And if they happen to be victims? She makes excuses.
When violence perpetrated by non-Muslims (and the victims are Muslim) you make excuses. I'm guessing you only care when it's Muslims doing the violating and feel Muslim victims deserve what they get. Strange world, but at least you are conistent
Who's this "us"? Are there voices in your head?
Perhaps you can do a little historic research rather than expecting others to do it for you it truly smacks of laziness on your part (or simply a desire to troll)
Of course - it's easier to excuse non-Muslim violence and condemn Muslim-violence - makes for better narrative and requires absolutely no effort on your part to engage the thought process. I notice that while you post a prodigious number of articles (many of which I agree with) - they do contain a constant refrain. They are only about violence perpetrated by Muslims.
No, that makes one wonder. Is that what is happening in the real world? Noooo....a little research shows that there are hundreds of conflicts around the world and while many involve Islamic countries they do not all necessarily involve religion as a primary cause: Wars in the World » List of ongoing Conflicts Many of these conflicts are complex - some represent Islamist insurgencies, others are Al Queda fueled, and others seem to be composed of multiple independent tribal/ethnic/religious militias. My guess is that any reasonably intelligent person would look at those conflicts individually rather than assume it's all only about religion.
So why is it Sally doesn't care when it's not Muslims attacking? Apparently Sally really doesn't give a damn....unless Muslims are at the root of it. And if they happen to be victims? She makes excuses.
When violence perpetrated by non-Muslims (and the victims are Muslim) you make excuses. I'm guessing you only care when it's Muslims doing the violating and feel Muslim victims deserve what they get. Strange world, but at least you are conistent
You know, Coyote, it is you who probably are hearing voices in your head. So much is going on where Muslims are murdering people, even Muslims of different sects, and with all the forums available to you, you have nothing to say about it. So being that you are so silent shows that you really don't care what is happening to people, even those Muslims like the Ahmadiyya and Shiites blown up in Pakistan. You might be fooling people with the same mind set as you have, but I don't think you are fooling those who are aware of what is going on today. When you find Buddhists in many different locations killing people because of their religion, why not get back to us then?
Every morning when I go downstairs, I can see the dining room set that I bought from a Muslim family who were going to live in Pakistan. I invariably think of what is going on in Pakistan and I hope that the parents and three kids, who now are in their thirties, are safe and have not been caught up in some suicide or car bombing which seems to haplpen on a regular basis. However, if it makes you feel good to close your eyes to this, go for it.
Who's this "us"? Are there voices in your head?
Perhaps you can do a little historic research rather than expecting others to do it for you it truly smacks of laziness on your part (or simply a desire to troll)
Of course - it's easier to excuse non-Muslim violence and condemn Muslim-violence - makes for better narrative and requires absolutely no effort on your part to engage the thought process. I notice that while you post a prodigious number of articles (many of which I agree with) - they do contain a constant refrain. They are only about violence perpetrated by Muslims.
No, that makes one wonder. Is that what is happening in the real world? Noooo....a little research shows that there are hundreds of conflicts around the world and while many involve Islamic countries they do not all necessarily involve religion as a primary cause: Wars in the World » List of ongoing Conflicts Many of these conflicts are complex - some represent Islamist insurgencies, others are Al Queda fueled, and others seem to be composed of multiple independent tribal/ethnic/religious militias. My guess is that any reasonably intelligent person would look at those conflicts individually rather than assume it's all only about religion.
So why is it Sally doesn't care when it's not Muslims attacking? Apparently Sally really doesn't give a damn....unless Muslims are at the root of it. And if they happen to be victims? She makes excuses.
When violence perpetrated by non-Muslims (and the victims are Muslim) you make excuses. I'm guessing you only care when it's Muslims doing the violating and feel Muslim victims deserve what they get. Strange world, but at least you are conistent
You know, Coyote, it is you who probably are hearing voices in your head. So much is going on where Muslims are murdering people, even Muslims of different sects, and with all the forums available to you, you have nothing to say about it. So being that you are so silent shows that you really don't care what is happening to people, even those Muslims like the Ahmadiyya and Shiites blown up in Pakistan. You might be fooling people with the same mind set as you have, but I don't think you are fooling those who are aware of what is going on today. When you find Buddhists in many different locations killing people because of their religion, why not get back to us then?
Every morning when I go downstairs, I can see the dining room set that I bought from a Muslim family who were going to live in Pakistan. I invariably think of what is going on in Pakistan and I hope that the parents and three kids, who now are in their thirties, are safe and have not been caught up in some suicide or car bombing which seems to haplpen on a regular basis. However, if it makes you feel good to close your eyes to this, go for it.
Well Sally, that's really cool and I'm glad you care so much. However, I'm not the one closing my eyes to violence (nor do I keep referring to "us"), in fact, many of your threads I've openly agreed with.
I just fail too understand why violence perpetrated on Muslims by non-Muslims like Buddhists is excusable - over and over.
Innocent people are hurt and killed for no more reason than that they exist and the dominant culture doesn't like them. It shouldn't matter who they are or who their attackers are.
One of the most Bogus and common claims of Islamist apologists.
I don't waste much time on videos - they can be hard to verify for context, accuracy and completeness. I do look for articles - it's easier to search for them, and to verify them thus I've posted articles not videos.
But here's the thing Sally - I can denounce them, and have in threads about Syria for example or the actions of Muslim terrorist groups such as in the Kenya Mall bombing. Unlike you, I'm not going out of my way posting thread after thread after article on Muslim violence (or any other violence).
Myanmar, Sri Lanka, Thailand - all have Buddhist majorities attacking Muslim minorities though the conflicts are themselves not as simple as just religion. Bosnia was not that long ago either. Why should the denunciation of violance be tied to how you feel about specific religions? Dead is dead and it doesn't matter who committed the atrocities - it's usually the ordinary people and children who get caught up in it and have no way to escape it. So why do you make excuses for the buddhists?
Let me know when you feel capable of denouncing something other than Islamic violence and show a little empathy for the victims regardless of who is inflicting these atrocities.
...or when you feel like actually exploring the actual underlying causes in these conflicts - it would make for an interesting discussion but unfortunately it would take more effort then simply posting articles on "Muslim violence"
I don't waste much time on videos - they can be hard to verify for context, accuracy and completeness. I do look for articles - it's easier to search for them, and to verify them thus I've posted articles not videos.
But here's the thing Sally - I can denounce them, and have in threads about Syria for example or the actions of Muslim terrorist groups such as in the Kenya Mall bombing. Unlike you, I'm not going out of my way posting thread after thread after article on Muslim violence (or any other violence).
Myanmar, Sri Lanka, Thailand - all have Buddhist majorities attacking Muslim minorities though the conflicts are themselves not as simple as just religion. Bosnia was not that long ago either. Why should the denunciation of violance be tied to how you feel about specific religions? Dead is dead and it doesn't matter who committed the atrocities - it's usually the ordinary people and children who get caught up in it and have no way to escape it. So why do you make excuses for the buddhists?
Let me know when you feel capable of denouncing something other than Islamic violence and show a little empathy for the victims regardless of who is inflicting these atrocities.
...or when you feel like actually exploring the actual underlying causes in these conflicts - it would make for an interesting discussion but unfortunately it would take more effort then simply posting articles on "Muslim violence"
Isn't it strange that I think very few readers have seen you actually condemning on these various forums what is happening in different areas. However, the only big to-do you seemed to have made is on the subject of Myanmar. As far as Thailand, where were you when it came to condemning the Muslims murdering the Buddhists in the south of Thailand? Where were you in making a comment about the Muslims when they were acting up in the Catholic Philippines? I think that most people can see that it is not the Buddhists who are going around in so many different spots killing innocent people, but if you want people to believe that the Buddhists are doing just that, go for it. Meanwhile, you might find this article on Sri Lanka interesting.
Sri Lanka?s War Had Witnesses: Indian Journalist B. Murali Reddy - OpEd Eurasia Review
I don't waste much time on videos - they can be hard to verify for context, accuracy and completeness. I do look for articles - it's easier to search for them, and to verify them thus I've posted articles not videos.
But here's the thing Sally - I can denounce them, and have in threads about Syria for example or the actions of Muslim terrorist groups such as in the Kenya Mall bombing. Unlike you, I'm not going out of my way posting thread after thread after article on Muslim violence (or any other violence).
Myanmar, Sri Lanka, Thailand - all have Buddhist majorities attacking Muslim minorities though the conflicts are themselves not as simple as just religion. Bosnia was not that long ago either. Why should the denunciation of violance be tied to how you feel about specific religions? Dead is dead and it doesn't matter who committed the atrocities - it's usually the ordinary people and children who get caught up in it and have no way to escape it. So why do you make excuses for the buddhists?
Let me know when you feel capable of denouncing something other than Islamic violence and show a little empathy for the victims regardless of who is inflicting these atrocities.
...or when you feel like actually exploring the actual underlying causes in these conflicts - it would make for an interesting discussion but unfortunately it would take more effort then simply posting articles on "Muslim violence"
Isn't it strange that I think very few readers have seen you actually condemning on these various forums what is happening in different areas. However, the only big to-do you seemed to have made is on the subject of Myanmar. As far as Thailand, where were you when it came to condemning the Muslims murdering the Buddhists in the south of Thailand? Where were you in making a comment about the Muslims when they were acting up in the Catholic Philippines? I think that most people can see that it is not the Buddhists who are going around in so many different spots killing innocent people, but if you want people to believe that the Buddhists are doing just that, go for it. Meanwhile, you might find this article on Sri Lanka interesting.
Sri Lanka?s War Had Witnesses: Indian Journalist B. Murali Reddy - OpEd Eurasia Review
Well Sally, that is due primarily to that fact that you "think" rather than read what I actually post. It certainly makes for a difficult discussion but discussion may not be what you really desire.
In the meantime, Buddhists (under government auspices) are murdering, burning out and attacking Myanmar's Muslims while you can't see fit to condemn it because they are Buddhists and Christian Uganda with the help of US Churches, has just passed a draconian anti-homosexuality law that gives jail time not only to homosexuals (they tried for death penalty but world outrage killed that) but for those who don't "inform" on possible homosexuals. We're all well aware of the draconian anti-gay laws that have long existed in Muslim Countries of course but silent when it occurs outside the Muslim world backed by supposedly civilized American Churches.
Unknown, but feel free to look it up in your endless effort to excuse or legitimize non-Muslim violence
Your question doesn't make much sense
However, I do think it's important to add this note since you like to repeat the same refrain over and over here: self-emolation through personal incendiary devices is not a requirement for determining ethically acceptable levels of violence. You seem stuck on it. What ever devices terrorists use - dead is just as dead, ya think?
I have no desire to, but feel free to consult him if you wish
Well Sally, this conversation is with *you* not some nebulous "anyone on this forum" - but you. Try to keep up.
And as I said Sally, dead is dead and innocent people killed through terroristic violence are still dead regardless of whether the perp was Muslim or Buddhist. You do understand that don't you?
Of course there is one other fact that skews things just a bit: Buddhists only make up a fraction of the world's religions dominated by Christianity and Muslims. Yet, look at the five countries with the largest Buddhist majorities (sorry - Tibet is only 60%).
Thailand 95.00%
Cambodia 90
Myanmar 88
Bhutan 75
Sri Lanka 70
How many of them are involved in violence? There is a strong ethnic component to it that is at least as big a factor as religion but still...3 of the 5.
But somehow you seem to think it's ok for Buddhists to kill Muslims (not sure if you think it's ok for them to kill Christians but in some of those countries Christians have also been attacked).
Sorry Sally, but I don't do charts on demand do your own research
