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You see it wrong. What those two convert animals did is all over the British media, and the daily mail is just one in hundreds of newspapers that reported on this barbarism that occurred in the name of Islam.As with all groups, including yours, we have a fucking idiot end.
Sadly, our idiots are more numerous and get more publicity because it fits well with American foreign policy to do so.
However, the vast majority of Muslims aren't interested in their shit.
Stop kidding yourself. Those whom you are calling "idiot" are simply devout Muslims. That is the reason there is very little condemnation (and in many circles praise) from the Muslim world when these devout Muslims do what they believe Islam demands that they do.
Muslim converts guilty of murdering Private Lee Rigby | Mail Online
I see it this way, if you need to use the Daily mail for your "facts"'; you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for excuses to hate.
You don't have to be a car or suicide bomber to kill people.
While it's a nice theory that all Buddhist monks do is kill themselves, it's not accurate. They can be just as murderous and intolerant as extremists in other religions.
So tell me, Coyote, have you heard of a large group of Buddhist monks in many locations in the Middle East, Southeast Asia and Africa calling on their members to kill others? The only country I can think of at the moment is Burma where the Muslims and Buddhists are at it. Other than that, in that particular region of the world, the Muslims in southern Thailand are killing Buddhists, and they certainly are giving the Philippines trouble. Perhaps you are aware of where the Buddhists are acting up besides Burma and you can inform us as to where. Of course you don't have to be a car or suicide bomber to kill people. The Boko Haram in Nigeria are doing a fine job of slitting the throats of Christians.
Perhaps you are aware you are apologizing for Buddhist violence in your eagerness to lay all religious violence at the feet of Islam?
I can't think of any extremists in other religious who are being car and suicide bombers. Can you think of any? However, I have a suggestion. If these clerics are dissatisfied with things, they should set themselves on fire like the Buddhist monks do instead of trying to incite people to do some terrible deed themselves.. This way they only harm they will be doing is to themselves. The following is an old article, but interesting nevertheless.
USATODAY.com - Devotion, desire drive youths to 'martyrdom'
You don't have to be a car or suicide bomber to kill people.
While it's a nice theory that all Buddhist monks do is kill themselves, it's not accurate. They can be just as murderous and intolerant as extremists in other religions.
So tell me, Coyote, have you heard of a large group of Buddhist monks in many locations in the Middle East, Southeast Asia and Africa calling on their members to kill others? The only country I can think of at the moment is Burma where the Muslims and Buddhists are at it. Other than that, in that particular region of the world, the Muslims in southern Thailand are killing Buddhists, and they certainly are giving the Philippines trouble. Perhaps you are aware of where the Buddhists are acting up besides Burma and you can inform us as to where. Of course you don't have to be a car or suicide bomber to kill people. The Boko Haram in Nigeria are doing a fine job of slitting the throats of Christians.
"The fighting itself isn't about religion. It's about control over political power and safeguarding communities," Griswold says. "And it's taking on the color of religion because no other form of identity is protecting the people of CAR now."
Griswold wrote "The Tenth Parallel: Dispatches from the Fault Line Between Christianity and Islam." She says, in the absence of functioning governments, many Africans are increasingly defining themselves in terms of their religious identity.
So tell me, Coyote, have you heard of a large group of Buddhist monks in many locations in the Middle East, Southeast Asia and Africa calling on their members to kill others? The only country I can think of at the moment is Burma where the Muslims and Buddhists are at it. Other than that, in that particular region of the world, the Muslims in southern Thailand are killing Buddhists, and they certainly are giving the Philippines trouble. Perhaps you are aware of where the Buddhists are acting up besides Burma and you can inform us as to where. Of course you don't have to be a car or suicide bomber to kill people. The Boko Haram in Nigeria are doing a fine job of slitting the throats of Christians.
Perhaps you are aware you are apologizing for Buddhist violence in your eagerness to lay all religious violence at the feet of Islam?
You still haven't told us where all these locations are in the world where the Buddhists are killing other people. I think other readers might be curious too to learn all about where the Buddhists are busy killing others.
Perhaps you are aware you are apologizing for Buddhist violence in your eagerness to lay all religious violence at the feet of Islam?
You still haven't told us where all these locations are in the world where the Buddhists are killing other people. I think other readers might be curious too to learn all about where the Buddhists are busy killing others.
Thailand
Myanmar
Sri Lanka
Why do you keep apologizing for violence committed by Buddhists? Are people somehow not as dead when they are killed by Buddhists or is it that you feel they deserve to be killed for some odd reason?
You still haven't told us where all these locations are in the world where the Buddhists are killing other people. I think other readers might be curious too to learn all about where the Buddhists are busy killing others.
Thailand
Myanmar
Sri Lanka
Why do you keep apologizing for violence committed by Buddhists? Are people somehow not as dead when they are killed by Buddhists or is it that you feel they deserve to be killed for some odd reason?
Strange how I always read about the Muslims killing people in southern Thailand but never about the Buddhists killing the Muslims there. In Myanmar I would say both sides are killing each other. Sri Lanka I haven't read about. However, even if it was true that only Buddhists were killing in Thailand, Myanmar and Sri Lanka, how does that compare to what is happening in so many Middle East Countries, countries in Southeast Asia, and Africa? I can honestly see why the Shiites are moving to Australia because they are getting tired of the Sunnis suicide and car bombing them there. I certainly also can see why the Amadiyya say they only feel safe in America because evey those who have moved to England aren't safe from the Sunnis.
You don't have to be a car or suicide bomber to kill people.
While it's a nice theory that all Buddhist monks do is kill themselves, it's not accurate. They can be just as murderous and intolerant as extremists in other religions.
So tell me, Coyote, have you heard of a large group of Buddhist monks in many locations in the Middle East, Southeast Asia and Africa calling on their members to kill others? The only country I can think of at the moment is Burma where the Muslims and Buddhists are at it. Other than that, in that particular region of the world, the Muslims in southern Thailand are killing Buddhists, and they certainly are giving the Philippines trouble. Perhaps you are aware of where the Buddhists are acting up besides Burma and you can inform us as to where. Of course you don't have to be a car or suicide bomber to kill people. The Boko Haram in Nigeria are doing a fine job of slitting the throats of Christians.
Just as an aside...sometimes, it's helpful to look at the history of some of these superficially religious conflicts.
Take southern Thailand for example. Southern Thailand was once the "Sultanate of Patani". "Peaceful" Bhuddist Thai's conquered it in 1785 and have governed it since then. Ethnic and religious strife have a long history there, as does a seperatist insurgency.
Nigeria, too is another example. The Boko Haram are clearly an extremist and violent group but they attack Muslims as well as Christians (comparable to the Christian LRA in Uganda/Southern Sudan), but are the Nigerian Christians so innocent? Is it really just a religious conflict? Nigeria: Five Things To Know About Religious Violence
How about Sri Lanka? Sri Lankas Muslim minority (as well as Christians) have been attacked by hardline Buddhists. Muslims were either killed or forceably expelled from the Northern Provence by the LTTE.
So tell me Sally, do you ignore these occurences because they don't fit your narrative?
Truth is - most of these conflicts are not simply religious conflicts. Author Eliza Griswold, in an interview about her book "The Tenth Parallel" made several interesting observations - though they applied primarily to Africa, they are applicable elsewhere - particularly in the ME where governments have broken down or proven incompetent at protecting their people:
"The fighting itself isn't about religion. It's about control over political power and safeguarding communities," Griswold says. "And it's taking on the color of religion because no other form of identity is protecting the people of CAR now."
Griswold wrote "The Tenth Parallel: Dispatches from the Fault Line Between Christianity and Islam." She says, in the absence of functioning governments, many Africans are increasingly defining themselves in terms of their religious identity.
So tell me, Coyote, have you heard of a large group of Buddhist monks in many locations in the Middle East, Southeast Asia and Africa calling on their members to kill others? The only country I can think of at the moment is Burma where the Muslims and Buddhists are at it. Other than that, in that particular region of the world, the Muslims in southern Thailand are killing Buddhists, and they certainly are giving the Philippines trouble. Perhaps you are aware of where the Buddhists are acting up besides Burma and you can inform us as to where. Of course you don't have to be a car or suicide bomber to kill people. The Boko Haram in Nigeria are doing a fine job of slitting the throats of Christians.
Just as an aside...sometimes, it's helpful to look at the history of some of these superficially religious conflicts.
Take southern Thailand for example. Southern Thailand was once the "Sultanate of Patani". "Peaceful" Bhuddist Thai's conquered it in 1785 and have governed it since then. Ethnic and religious strife have a long history there, as does a seperatist insurgency.
Nigeria, too is another example. The Boko Haram are clearly an extremist and violent group but they attack Muslims as well as Christians (comparable to the Christian LRA in Uganda/Southern Sudan), but are the Nigerian Christians so innocent? Is it really just a religious conflict? Nigeria: Five Things To Know About Religious Violence
How about Sri Lanka? Sri Lanka’s Muslim minority (as well as Christians) have been attacked by hardline Buddhists. Muslims were either killed or forceably expelled from the Northern Provence by the LTTE.
So tell me Sally, do you ignore these occurences because they don't fit your narrative?
Truth is - most of these conflicts are not simply religious conflicts. Author Eliza Griswold, in an interview about her book "The Tenth Parallel" made several interesting observations - though they applied primarily to Africa, they are applicable elsewhere - particularly in the ME where governments have broken down or proven incompetent at protecting their people:
"The fighting itself isn't about religion. It's about control over political power and safeguarding communities," Griswold says. "And it's taking on the color of religion because no other form of identity is protecting the people of CAR now."
Griswold wrote "The Tenth Parallel: Dispatches from the Fault Line Between Christianity and Islam." She says, in the absence of functioning governments, many Africans are increasingly defining themselves in terms of their religious identity.
When I see people being killed because of their sect, I know it has to do with religion. When I see people being killed just because they are Christians, I know it is because of their religion. Someone can write all the theories they want to, but I think people realize what is going on. If you want to make excuses for this, be my guest since this is only a forum and whatever opinion we have is not going to make any difference in the real world out there. In the real world, people will make up their minds by what is actually going on, not with what someone has written.
Just as an aside...sometimes, it's helpful to look at the history of some of these superficially religious conflicts.
Take southern Thailand for example. Southern Thailand was once the "Sultanate of Patani". "Peaceful" Bhuddist Thai's conquered it in 1785 and have governed it since then. Ethnic and religious strife have a long history there, as does a seperatist insurgency.
Nigeria, too is another example. The Boko Haram are clearly an extremist and violent group but they attack Muslims as well as Christians (comparable to the Christian LRA in Uganda/Southern Sudan), but are the Nigerian Christians so innocent? Is it really just a religious conflict? Nigeria: Five Things To Know About Religious Violence
How about Sri Lanka? Sri Lankas Muslim minority (as well as Christians) have been attacked by hardline Buddhists. Muslims were either killed or forceably expelled from the Northern Provence by the LTTE.
So tell me Sally, do you ignore these occurences because they don't fit your narrative?
Truth is - most of these conflicts are not simply religious conflicts. Author Eliza Griswold, in an interview about her book "The Tenth Parallel" made several interesting observations - though they applied primarily to Africa, they are applicable elsewhere - particularly in the ME where governments have broken down or proven incompetent at protecting their people:
When I see people being killed because of their sect, I know it has to do with religion. When I see people being killed just because they are Christians, I know it is because of their religion. Someone can write all the theories they want to, but I think people realize what is going on. If you want to make excuses for this, be my guest since this is only a forum and whatever opinion we have is not going to make any difference in the real world out there. In the real world, people will make up their minds by what is actually going on, not with what someone has written.
Hey, I'm not the one making endless excuses for Buddhists killing Muslims (and, unlike both you and I, the author I quoted has actually been there ... not just reading about it on the internet).
You just seem to have funny ideas about when it "has to do with religion"
Thailand
Myanmar
Sri Lanka
Why do you keep apologizing for violence committed by Buddhists? Are people somehow not as dead when they are killed by Buddhists or is it that you feel they deserve to be killed for some odd reason?
Strange how I always read about the Muslims killing people in southern Thailand but never about the Buddhists killing the Muslims there. In Myanmar I would say both sides are killing each other. Sri Lanka I haven't read about. However, even if it was true that only Buddhists were killing in Thailand, Myanmar and Sri Lanka, how does that compare to what is happening in so many Middle East Countries, countries in Southeast Asia, and Africa? I can honestly see why the Shiites are moving to Australia because they are getting tired of the Sunnis suicide and car bombing them there. I certainly also can see why the Amadiyya say they only feel safe in America because evey those who have moved to England aren't safe from the Sunnis.
I think you need to read from a broader variety of sources...just saying
Just as an aside...sometimes, it's helpful to look at the history of some of these superficially religious conflicts.
Take southern Thailand for example. Southern Thailand was once the "Sultanate of Patani". "Peaceful" Bhuddist Thai's conquered it in 1785 and have governed it since then. Ethnic and religious strife have a long history there, as does a seperatist insurgency.
Nigeria, too is another example. The Boko Haram are clearly an extremist and violent group but they attack Muslims as well as Christians (comparable to the Christian LRA in Uganda/Southern Sudan), but are the Nigerian Christians so innocent? Is it really just a religious conflict? Nigeria: Five Things To Know About Religious Violence
How about Sri Lanka? Sri Lanka’s Muslim minority (as well as Christians) have been attacked by hardline Buddhists. Muslims were either killed or forceably expelled from the Northern Provence by the LTTE.
So tell me Sally, do you ignore these occurences because they don't fit your narrative?
Truth is - most of these conflicts are not simply religious conflicts. Author Eliza Griswold, in an interview about her book "The Tenth Parallel" made several interesting observations - though they applied primarily to Africa, they are applicable elsewhere - particularly in the ME where governments have broken down or proven incompetent at protecting their people:
When I see people being killed because of their sect, I know it has to do with religion. When I see people being killed just because they are Christians, I know it is because of their religion. Someone can write all the theories they want to, but I think people realize what is going on. If you want to make excuses for this, be my guest since this is only a forum and whatever opinion we have is not going to make any difference in the real world out there. In the real world, people will make up their minds by what is actually going on, not with what someone has written.
Hey, I'm not the one making endless excuses for Buddhists killing Muslims (and, unlike both you and I, the author I quoted has actually been there ... not just reading about it on the internet).
You just seem to have funny ideas about when it "has to do with religion"
I figured, but this can also be viewed as a serious question. Like the view which says that instead of being more developed in each passing century, the fact that everything is "reachable" thanks to modern technology actually made us more stupid.
But that's for a different board
That is a really good point
One thing I kind of wonder....research has shown that the human brain isn't fully developed until around age 25, and the areas of the brain that don't develop until then are the "executive functions" which direct impulse control, analytical functions and an understanding of consequences. It's easy to see that in common behaviors like drinking, crazy driving, risk taking etc. But when you combine that immaturity with the viral spread of videos and such from radical extremists and their alluring messages it's easy to see how many can fall into those traps.
i got no problem with assholes blowing themselves up...its when they involve others that i got an issue with it....or worse the cowards in boston...leaving bombs....and walking away...
Or how about the real cowards who drop bombs out or airplanes and fly away.
Notice that Sunni girl has to go back to WWII Kamikazi pilots to justify Islamic barbarism that is gong on day in and day out all over the world.
We understand, Sunni, you can't deal with the fact that Islam is the cause of this behavior.
It is kind of humorous, isn't it, especially when we don't see any Buddhist monks in Tibet inciting the Tibetans to put bomb belts on themselves to take out the nasty Chinese. The only harm these monks do is to themselves.
Maybe not....
You don't have to be a car or suicide bomber to kill people.
While it's a nice theory that all Buddhist monks do is kill themselves, it's not accurate. They can be just as murderous and intolerant as extremists in other religions.
So tell me, Coyote, have you heard of a large group of Buddhist monks in many locations in the Middle East, Southeast Asia and Africa calling on their members to kill others? The only country I can think of at the moment is Burma where the Muslims and Buddhists are at it. Other than that, in that particular region of the world, the Muslims in southern Thailand are killing Buddhists, and they certainly are giving the Philippines trouble. Perhaps you are aware of where the Buddhists are acting up besides Burma and you can inform us as to where. Of course you don't have to be a car or suicide bomber to kill people. The Boko Haram in Nigeria are doing a fine job of slitting the throats of Christians.
Perhaps you are aware you are apologizing for Buddhist violence in your eagerness to lay all religious violence at the feet of Islam?
When I see people being killed because of their sect, I know it has to do with religion. When I see people being killed just because they are Christians, I know it is because of their religion. Someone can write all the theories they want to, but I think people realize what is going on. If you want to make excuses for this, be my guest since this is only a forum and whatever opinion we have is not going to make any difference in the real world out there. In the real world, people will make up their minds by what is actually going on, not with what someone has written.
Hey, I'm not the one making endless excuses for Buddhists killing Muslims (and, unlike both you and I, the author I quoted has actually been there ... not just reading about it on the internet).
You just seem to have funny ideas about when it "has to do with religion"
YES, we see Sally claim every single time a Muslim kills it is for his religion, but when a Jew kills a Christian or Muslim child or civilian in Palestine it never has anything to do with religion.
You don't have to be a car or suicide bomber to kill people.
While it's a nice theory that all Buddhist monks do is kill themselves, it's not accurate. They can be just as murderous and intolerant as extremists in other religions.
So tell me, Coyote, have you heard of a large group of Buddhist monks in many locations in the Middle East, Southeast Asia and Africa calling on their members to kill others? The only country I can think of at the moment is Burma where the Muslims and Buddhists are at it. Other than that, in that particular region of the world, the Muslims in southern Thailand are killing Buddhists, and they certainly are giving the Philippines trouble. Perhaps you are aware of where the Buddhists are acting up besides Burma and you can inform us as to where. Of course you don't have to be a car or suicide bomber to kill people. The Boko Haram in Nigeria are doing a fine job of slitting the throats of Christians.
Just as an aside...sometimes, it's helpful to look at the history of some of these superficially religious conflicts.
Take southern Thailand for example. Southern Thailand was once the "Sultanate of Patani". "Peaceful" Bhuddist Thai's conquered it in 1785 and have governed it since then. Ethnic and religious strife have a long history there, as does a seperatist insurgency.
Nigeria, too is another example. The Boko Haram are clearly an extremist and violent group but they attack Muslims as well as Christians (comparable to the Christian LRA in Uganda/Southern Sudan), but are the Nigerian Christians so innocent? Is it really just a religious conflict? Nigeria: Five Things To Know About Religious Violence
How about Sri Lanka? Sri Lankas Muslim minority (as well as Christians) have been attacked by hardline Buddhists. Muslims were either killed or forceably expelled from the Northern Provence by the LTTE.
So tell me Sally, do you ignore these occurences because they don't fit your narrative?
Truth is - most of these conflicts are not simply religious conflicts. Author Eliza Griswold, in an interview about her book "The Tenth Parallel" made several interesting observations - though they applied primarily to Africa, they are applicable elsewhere - particularly in the ME where governments have broken down or proven incompetent at protecting their people:
"The fighting itself isn't about religion. It's about control over political power and safeguarding communities," Griswold says. "And it's taking on the color of religion because no other form of identity is protecting the people of CAR now."
Griswold wrote "The Tenth Parallel: Dispatches from the Fault Line Between Christianity and Islam." She says, in the absence of functioning governments, many Africans are increasingly defining themselves in terms of their religious identity.
When I see people being killed because of their sect, I know it has to do with religion. When I see people being killed just because they are Christians, I know it is because of their religion. Someone can write all the theories they want to, but I think people realize what is going on. If you want to make excuses for this, be my guest since this is only a forum and whatever opinion we have is not going to make any difference in the real world out there. In the real world, people will make up their minds by what is actually going on, not with what someone has written.
Hey, I'm not the one making endless excuses for Buddhists killing Muslims (and, unlike both you and I, the author I quoted has actually been there ... not just reading about it on the internet).
You just seem to have funny ideas about when it "has to do with religion"
YES, we see Sally claim every single time a Muslim kills it is for his religion, but when a Jew kills a Christian or Muslim child or civilian in Palestine it never has anything to do with religion.
