Racism isnt the problem holding blacks back

[Hafar1014]

Dude, c'mon. We've come a long way, especially legislatively. But open your eyes. Racism is not a vestige of the past. It's in the here and now and can be found in the premise of your thread.

What can I do that you cant do? The solution to black failure is simple. Get married first then have children. Have a father in the home.

 

[Lisa558]

Dude, c'mon. We've come a long way, especially legislatively. But open your eyes. Racism is not a vestige of the past. It's in the here and now and can be found in the premise of your thread.

Antisemitism is not a vestige of the past, either. Yet Jews overcome it to become successful, and via two choices: 1) higher education, and 2) children after marriage.

Sadly, when I once suggested that blacks use Jews as a model, I was called…..you guessed it….a racist.

 

[berg80]

What can I do that you cant do. Ill give you the solution to every black problem. Get married first then have children

The problem being you can't wave a magic wand and wipe out the ingrained effects of centuries of oppressive discrimination.

 

[SweetTea]

Dude, c'mon. We've come a long way, especially legislatively. But open your eyes. Racism is not a vestige of the past. It's in the here and now and can be found in the premise of your thread.

Racism is a very, very small issue in this country. It is blown out of proportion by the left and used as a scapegoat for nearly all failures.

 

[Lisa558]

The problem being you can't wave a magic wand and wipe out the ingrained effects of centuries of oppressive discrimination.

Escuses, excuses.

Why are most blacks members of the working and middle classes (like most people) rather than stuck in the ghetto? What’s different about THOSE blacks? Why didn’t centuries of oppressive discrimination block THEM?

 

[berg80]

Antisemitism is not a vestige of the past, either. Yet Jews overcome it to become successful, and via two choices: 1) higher education, and 2) children after marriage.

Sadly, when I once suggested that blacks use Jews as a model, I was called…..you guessed it….a racist.

I don't think the situations are comparable. Jews were not captured, transported from their homeland by force, enslaved, and stripped of their cultural heritage.

Do you really think it's possible for people to snap their fingers and adopt the culture of another people with completely different backgrounds and history?

 

[berg80]

Escuses, excuses.

Why are most blacks members of the working and middle classes (like most people) rather than stuck in the ghetto? What’s different about THOSE blacks? Why didn’t centuries of oppressive discrimination block THEM?

Okay, let's go with your theory that black people are inherently inferior and call it a day.

 

[Correll]

Okay, let's go with your theory that black people are inherently inferior and call it a day.

Lisa asked you a question. EVERYONE saw you run away from it, like a little girl.

 

[SweetTea]

Okay, let's go with your theory that black people are inherently inferior and call it a day.

Clearly black people are not inherently inferior, which is why there are many that are professionals in the middle and upper classes. The question posed is how is it that these can succeed and such a large percentage cannot? Were they all decedents of wealth? How did the escape the supposed systematic racism that holds so many people back? I would be willing to bet that the majority of these professionals don’t commit crimes and are much more likely to have stable, intact families.

 

[Lisa558]

I don't think the situations are comparable. Jews were not captured, transported from their homeland by force, enslaved, and stripped of their cultural heritage.

That was hundreds of years ago.

Jews more recently experienced Nazi Germany, and still managed to go on to college, get married, and then have children. And they did that without benefit of Affirmative Action.

You are part of the problem - making excuses for blacks who have multiple children with multiple men.

Do you really think it's possible for people to snap their fingers and adopt the culture of another people with completely different backgrounds and history?

How are blacks who have been born over the last 100+ years having to adapt to a different culture? The blacks in NY who grew up with my parents in the 1940s were part of the same culture.

Conversely, the poor, immigrant Jews who arrived on these shores via Ellis Island were from a totally different culture - and they didn’t even speak English! Still, a generation later, their kids were all responsible, successful adults - most married and living in the suburbs.

Like I said, you leftists are making things worse for blacks by making excuses. You should instead be encouraging them to model their behavior after other persecuted minorities who are successful. Asians would be another example.

 

[Correll]

Clearly black people are not inherently inferior, which is why there are many that are professionals in the middle and upper classes. The question posed is how is it that these can succeed and such a large percentage cannot? Were they all decedents of wealth? How did the escape the supposed systematic racism that holds so many people back? I would be willing to bet that the majority of these professionals don’t commit crimes and are much more likely to have stable, intact families.

Leftards need to pretend that their opponents are just screaming racists.

Because they have no answer to your question.

 

[Hafar1014]

Clearly black people are not inherently inferior, which is why there are many that are professionals in the middle and upper classes. The question posed is how is it that these can succeed and such a large percentage cannot? Were they all decedents of wealth? How did the escape the supposed systematic racism that holds so many people back? I would be willing to bet that the majority of these professionals don’t commit crimes and are much more likely to have stable, intact families.

African American culture has failed. There are many so called black cultures. Nigerians are one of the most successful.
AA culture has one fundamental problem no father in 75% of the families. This is the main cause of crime and poverty.

 

[Lisa558]

Okay, let's go with your theory that black people are inherently inferior and call it a day.

When did I say that black people are inferior? Just like a lib to scream - waaaaaacism!

I pointed out that MOST blacks are responsible and contributing members of society - being part of the working and middle classes - and asked why MOST blacks succeed when the blacks stuck in the ghetto do not?

So answer: what is different about the majority of blacks who succeed versus the minority who don’t?

 

[Lisa558]

Clearly black people are not inherently inferior, which is why there are many that are professionals in the middle and upper classes. The question posed is how is it that these can succeed and such a large percentage cannot? Were they all decedents of wealth? How did the escape the supposed systematic racism that holds so many people back? I would be willing to bet that the majority of these professionals don’t commit crimes and are much more likely to have stable, intact families.

I have asked that question 100 times, and no leftist will answer it.

 

[Hafar1014]

That was hundreds of years ago.

Jews more recently experienced Nazi Germany, and still managed to go on to college, get married, and then have children. And they did that without benefit of Affirmative Action.

You are part of the problem - making excuses for blacks who have multiple children with multiple men.



How are blacks who have been born over the last 100+ years having to adapt to a different culture? The blacks in NY who grew up with my parents in the 1940s were part of the same culture.

Conversely, the poor, immigrant Jews who arrived on these shores via Ellis Island were from a totally different culture - and they didn’t even speak English! Still, a generation later, their kids were all responsible, successful adults - most married and living in the suburbs.

Like I said, you leftists are making things worse for blacks by making excuses. You should instead be encouraging them to model their behavior after other persecuted minorities who are successful. Asians would be another example.

Jews have history of slavery, genocide, and persecution that makes the black experience look like a barbecue

 

[Correll]

I have asked that question 100 times, and no leftist will answer it.

Leftist can answer any real questions there days.

That is why they play dumb so much.

 

[Hafar1014]

When did I say that black people are inferior? Just like a lib to scream - waaaaaacism!

I pointed out that MOST blacks are responsible and contributing members of society - being part of the working and middle classes - and asked why MOST blacks succeed when the blacks stuck in the ghetto do not?

So answer: what is different about the majority of blacks who succeed versus the minority who don’t?

A father in the family is the difference

 

[Lisa558]

African American culture has failed. There are many so called black cultures. Nigerians are one of the most successful.
AA culture has one fundamental problem no father in 75% of the families. This is the main cause of crime and poverty.

Also, I would suggest that the OOW rate is near 100% in the ghettos. That 75% rate includes all blacks, including those in the middle class who are married college graduates.

 

[Lisa558]

A father in the family is the difference

It’s so obvious. But the leftists won’t admit that, because to do so places accountability with the black underclass itself - and they want to blame whites.

 

[Billiejeens]

Racism isnt the problem holding blacks back​

It kind of is - just not in the way that some want it to.

When a black tries to push forward, tries to gain success outside of the culture, use
proper English, Proper dress, proper decorum - other blacks accuse them of trying to be white, not successful.

So, there is the racism.