Rabbis forced the Romans to crucify Jesus

Jesus was safe up around Galilee and the Decapolis cities. Herod Antipas ignored him and didn't consider him a threat.
both wrong-----Jesus was a pharisee jew -----COINCIDENTALLY----the sunday school teachers fail
to mention the FACT that romans in the course of ten years CRUCIFIED 10,000 pharisee jews. Jesus was moving about in Jerusalem and its precincts------not the GALILEE. He was hanging around with other pharisees ALL THE TIME. He seems to move around up to the KINERET
sometimes Read the book
 
both wrong-----Jesus was a pharisee jew -----COINCIDENTALLY----the sunday school teachers fail
to mention the FACT that romans in the course of ten years CRUCIFIED 10,000 pharisee jews. Jesus was moving about in Jerusalem and its precincts------not the GALILEE. He was hanging around with other pharisees ALL THE TIME. He seems to move around up to the KINERET
sometimes Read the book

The Kinneret was on the northwestern shore of the sea of Galilee.

The Jerusalemites wanted Jesus dead.

Several of the Jewish factions were okay with the Roman occupation. Like the Herodians. Herod's granddaughter was the mistress of Titus.

The majority of Jesus ministry was in the north which was more prosperous and cosmopolitan than Jerusalem.
 
The Kinneret was on the northwestern shore of the sea of Galilee.

The Jerusalemites wanted Jesus dead.

Several of the Jewish factions were okay with the Roman occupation. Like the Herodians. Herod's granddaughter was the mistress of Titus.

The majority of Jesus ministry was in the north which was more prosperous and cosmopolitan than Jerusalem.

who were the JERUSALEMITES who wanted Jesus dead?------can you name a few? Your comment that ROMAN APPOINTEES to high offices were ok with the Roman occupation is beyond idiotic---Herod was not even a jew and was educated in Rome. He would not have his job if not
for roman sponsorship. You seem to TRY to be stupid. "MINISTRY"? ------your sunday school whore lied. JOHN the Baptist was a relative of Jesus-----killed by Herod because HEROD
liked him? Nope---John was a pharisee like Jesus and opposed Herod and his perverted
household Try reading the book again---it's all there.
BTW ---if so many people wanted Jesus dead----WHY DIDN'T THEY KILL HIM-----why did the MUCH DESPISED Roman Shill CAIAPHAS have to get involved?
 
who were the JERUSALEMITES who wanted Jesus dead?------can you name a few? Your comment that ROMAN APPOINTEES to high offices were ok with the Roman occupation is beyond idiotic---Herod was not even a jew and was educated in Rome. He would not have his job if not
for roman sponsorship. You seem to TRY to be stupid. "MINISTRY"? ------your sunday school whore lied. JOHN the Baptist was a relative of Jesus-----killed by Herod because HEROD
liked him? Nope---John was a pharisee like Jesus and opposed Herod and his perverted
household Try reading the book again---it's all there.
BTW ---if so many people wanted Jesus dead----WHY DIDN'T THEY KILL HIM-----why did the MUCH DESPISED Roman Shill CAIAPHAS have to get involved?


John the Baptist was a man of integrity. He had rebuked the Pharisees when they wanted to be baptized, because he knew they were not sorrowful over their sins. His baptism was for those who recognized that they were sinners and wanted peace with God. But most of the Pharisees and Sadducees did not see their sin as a problem.

The Edomites were forcibly converted to Judaism so yes Herod was a Jew.. John the Baptist was killed because the wife and daughter Salome tricked Herod into beheading him.

What do you mean when you keep skreeching "Sunday School Whore"?
 
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The Edomites were forcibly converted to Judaism so yes Herod was a Jew.. John the Baptist was killed because the wife and daughter Salome tricked Herod into beheading him.

What do you mean when you keep skreeching "Sunday School Whore"?
it's related to the sunday school BS which you swallowed. NOPE he was not a
jew------he was educated in Rome and did not adhere to Judaism AND he was not
eligible to be king------not of royal blood. John the baptist was killed because Herod
was simply stupid? NOPE-----he opposed Herod and considered his wife to be whorish.
-----well that's what MATTHEW says in the NT
Such history exists. No doubt you can support YOUR contention that the
JERUSALEMITES hated Jesus-----seems to have been kept SECRET. Even Josephus
says nothing about it
 
it's related to the sunday school BS which you swallowed. NOPE he was not a
jew------he was educated in Rome and did not adhere to Judaism AND he was not
eligible to be king------not of royal blood. John the baptist was killed because Herod
was simply stupid? NOPE-----he opposed Herod and considered his wife to be whorish.
Such history exists. No doubt you can support YOUR contention that the
JERUSALEMITES hated Jesus-----seems to have been kept SECRET

The Jerusalemites were peculiar sourpusses.. Jealous of the prosperity in the north.
 
john the baptist did not OWN the Jordan river----the river---being a running body of water
qualifies as a Mikvah and NO ONE needs JOHN to engage in that ritual. His putative
refusal to DO A MIKVAH RITUAL for a crowd of Pharisees and Sadducees who SUDDENLY
became such good friends that they wanted to BATHE together-----makes no sense.
 
The Jerusalemites were peculiar sourpusses.. Jealous of the prosperity in the north.
news to me----you got a link? All my life I KNEW that the METHODISTS stink to
high heaven----but I have no link
 
news to me----you got a link? All my life I KNEW that the METHODISTS stink to
high heaven----but I have no link

Why The Jews Hated The Samaritans - Truthbook.com


143:4.1 For more than six hundred years the Jews of Judea, and later on those of Galilee also, had been at enmity with the Samaritans. This ill feeling between the Jews and the Samaritans came about in this way: About seven hundred years B.C., Sargon, king of Assyria, in subduing a revolt in central Palestine, carried away and into captivity over twenty-five thousand Jews of the northern kingdom of Israel and installed in their place an almost equal number of the descendants of the Cuthites, Sepharvites, and the Hamathites. Later on, Ashurbanipal sent still other colonies to dwell in Samaria.
 
Why The Jews Hated The Samaritans - Truthbook.com


143:4.1 For more than six hundred years the Jews of Judea, and later on those of Galilee also, had been at enmity with the Samaritans. This ill feeling between the Jews and the Samaritans came about in this way: About seven hundred years B.C., Sargon, king of Assyria, in subduing a revolt in central Palestine, carried away and into captivity over twenty-five thousand Jews of the northern kingdom of Israel and installed in their place an almost equal number of the descendants of the Cuthites, Sepharvites, and the Hamathites. Later on, Ashurbanipal sent still other colonies to dwell in Samaria.
why are you deflecting to the SAMARITAN issue? The Samaritans STILL EXIST and, in fact,
I had a lengthy CYBER message stint with one about a year ago----we messaged almost daily
for weeks. They have communities in Israel and are considered a sect of jews. I know of
no time that they were ever in DEADLY conflict over the past two and one half Millennia. The story in the NT of some guy not wanting to go near a Samaritan actually does not make sense AND wonder of wonder it was written by LUKE who could not have witnessed the event----he did not speak aramaic or hebrew. Luke was friends with Paul who was trying to sell the ROMAN THEOPHILUS on HIS new religion called "christianity". So Luke wrote a story in Greek
----maybe even Latin Today Samaritans are called KARAITES and ARE STILL THERE.
They tend to stay clear of muslims. Jews visit----probably out of curiosity. Their customs
are kinda quaint
 
surada gets her jewish history from a christian propaganda site Truthbook.com
 
The Kinneret was on the northwestern shore of the sea of Galilee.

The Jerusalemites wanted Jesus dead.

Several of the Jewish factions were okay with the Roman occupation. Like the Herodians. Herod's granddaughter was the mistress of Titus.

The majority of Jesus ministry was in the north which was more prosperous and cosmopolitan than Jerusalem.
for the record---the KINNERET is the Sea of Galilee
 
surada gets her jewish history from a christian propaganda site Truthbook.com

The Jerusalemites are on record saying nothing good comes from Galilee and many other disparaging remarks.



A Samaritan in the Bible was a person from Samaria, a region north of Jerusalem. In Jesus’ day, the Jewish people of Galilee and Judea shunned the Samaritans, viewing them as a mixed race who practiced an impure, half-pagan religion.

Samaritans, as a people distinct from the Jews, are first mentioned in the Bible during the time of Nehemiah and the rebuilding of Jerusalem after the Babylonian captivity (Ezra 4:17; Nehemiah 2:10). Both Ezra 4 and a fifth-century BC Aramaic set of documents called the Elephantine Papyri point to a schism between the Jews and Samaritans during this Persian period
 
Life for the Jews under the procurators was exceedingly difficult. This protrait is confirmed by the Jewish historian Josephus who chronicled a number of events that provoked the Jews under Pilate and other procurators, leading to riots, beatings, and executions.
The Jews were circumcising their kids — if they were once slaves in Egypt, why did they still have Rabbis or masters in Rome?

The Roman procurators or prosecutors found Jewish practices of circumcision to be abhorrent, and quite justly inflicted every imaginable punishment to rid the Empire of that horrible practice. Nonetheless the Jews prevailed, and various practices of circumcision and castration were enforced throughout the Dark Ages and even to this day by the Roman Catholic Church.
 
The Jerusalemites are on record saying nothing good comes from Galilee and many other disparaging remarks.



A Samaritan in the Bible was a person from Samaria, a region north of Jerusalem. In Jesus’ day, the Jewish people of Galilee and Judea shunned the Samaritans, viewing them as a mixed race who practiced an impure, half-pagan religion.

Samaritans, as a people distinct from the Jews, are first mentioned in the Bible during the time of Nehemiah and the rebuilding of Jerusalem after the Babylonian captivity (Ezra 4:17; Nehemiah 2:10). Both Ezra 4 and a fifth-century BC Aramaic set of documents called the Elephantine Papyri point to a schism between the Jews and Samaritans during this Persian period
as usual, Surada has provided no real information. "nothing good comes from Galilee"?
from SHOMO HAMELECH? I live with a tanach, mishnah, talmud INCESSANT
quoter and never heard of this silly stuff. Samaritans STILL live in Israel----they have
some "DIFFERENT" ideas but jews and samaritans have never been in violent conflict
at least nothing even close to the violence and murder and pillage that have marked
the catholic, protestant "LOVE AFFAIR"
 
It was also the name of a town northwest of Galilee.
there are villages and moshavim with the word KINNERET as part of their titles---
but KINNERET alone is The sea of Galilee. It is a poetic reference to the high pitched
sound that derives from the breeze passing over the waters which are reminiscent of
a STRINGED INSTRUMENT ----to wit a KINOR
 
there are villages and moshavim with the word KINNERET as part of their titles---
but KINNERET alone is The sea of Galilee. It is a poetic reference to the high pitched
sound that derives from the breeze passing over the waters which are reminiscent of
a STRINGED INSTRUMENT ----to wit a KINOR

Kinneret (archaeological site) - Wikipedia

Kinneret (Hebrew: כִּנֶּרֶת‎) is the name of an important Bronze and Iron Age city situated on the northwestern shore of the Sea of Galilee, mentioned in the 14th century BC Aqhat Epic of Ugarit, and in the Old Testament and New Testament. Older Bible translations spell the name alternatively Kinnereth or Chinnereth, and sometimes in the plural as Chinneroth. In time the name became Gennesaret and Ginosar (Hebrew: גִּנֵּיסַר‎). The remains of Kinneret have been excavated at a site called Tell el-'Oreimeh in Arabicand Tel Kin…
 
My confession

My mother gave me a King James Bible when I was a child. Seventy-one (71) years later I still have it. My bible has numerous marker tags highlighting what I found interesting and worth reminding me of for future review.

I began by reading the New Testament which is full of the teachings of Jesus Christ. Jesus taught us how to be kind to others, as in the stranger but most of all Jesus used the Book of Ezekiel one of the major prophetic books in the Old Testament. It records six visions of the prophet Ezekiel, exiled in Babylon, during the 22 years from 593 to 571 BC.

The visions, and the book, are structured around three themes: (1) Judgment on Israel (chapters 1–24); (2) Judgment on the nations (chapters 25–32); and (3) Future blessings for Israel (chapters 33–48). Its themes include the concepts of the presence of God, purity, Israel as a divine community, and individual responsibility to God.

Book of Ezekiel - Wikipedia

During this period Jerusalem was under the rule of the Romans which the local community strongly rejected.

More famous Jewish teachers come from Galilee than anywhere else in the world. They were known for their great reverence for Scripture and the passionate desire to be faithful to it. This translated into vibrant religious communities, devoted to strong families, their country, whose synagogues echoed the debate and discussions about keeping the Torah. They resisted the pagan influences of Hellenism far more than did their Judean counterparts. When the great revolt against the pagan Romans and their collaborators (66-74 AD) finally occurred, it began among the Galileans.

That the World May Know | Rabbi and Talmidim

in Palestine there were a number of occasions when more restless elements in the population resisted Roman abuses and followed the tradition of “zealousness for the Law.”

under the Romans (ruled 37-4 B.C.E.). Herod surrounded himself with Greek scholars and undertook many building projects, including a magnificent and fortified palace. He rebuilt the Temple in Jerusalem.

Before he died, Jesus of Nazareth was born.

Life for the Jews under the procurators was exceedingly difficult
. This protrait is confirmed by the Jewish historian Josephus who chronicled a number of events that provoked the Jews under Pilate and other procurators, leading to riots, beatings, and executions.

The last procurators in particular were indifferent to Jewish religious sensibilities; and various patriotic groups, to whom nationalism was an integral part of their religion, succeeded in polarizing the Jewish population and bringing on the first war with Rome in 66. The climax of the war, as noted earlier, was the destruction of the Temple in 70, though, according to Josephus, Titus sought to spare it.

Bar Kokhba Revolt, also called Second Jewish Revolt, (132–135 CE), Jewish rebellion against Roman rule in Judaea. The revolt was preceded by years of clashes between Jews and Romans in the area.
Bar Kokhba Revolt | History & Facts | Britannica

The history of the Jews in the Roman Empire

Rebellion in Judaea

Although Judaea was ruled by the Romans, the governors there had practiced the same kind of religious tolerance as was shown to Jews in Rome. However, Roman tactlessness and inefficiency, along with famine and internal squabbles, led to a rise in Jewish discontent.

In 66 AD, this discontent exploded into open rebellion. Four years later, the Roman army had crushed the revolt, but had also destroyed the temple. The sacred treasures were seized and shown off in a procession through the streets of Rome.
The Roman Empire: in the First Century. The Roman Empire. Jews In Roman Times | PBS

The history of Palestine is the study of the past in the region of Palestine, defined as the territory between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River (where Israel and Palestine are today). Strategically situated between three continents, Palestine has a tumultuous history as a crossroads for religion, culture, commerce, and politics. Palestine is the birthplace of Judaism and Christianity and has been controlled by many kingdoms and powers, including Ancient Egypt, Persia, Alexander the Great and his successors, the Roman Empire, several Muslim dynasties, and the Crusaders. In modern times, the area was ruled by the Ottoman Empire.

The region was among the earliest in the world to see human habitation, agricultural communities and civilization. The Canaanites established independent city-states that were influenced by the surrounding civilizations, among them Egypt, which ruled the area in the Late Bronze Age. The Assyrians conquered Palestine in the 8th century BCE, then the Babylonians in c. 601 BCE, followed by the Persians who conquered the Babylonian Empire in 539 BCE. Alexander the Great conquered Palestine in the late 330s BCE, beginning a long period of Hellenization. In the late 2nd century BCE, the semi-independent Hasmonean kingdom conquered most of Palestine but the kingdom gradually became a vassal of Rome, which annexed Palestine in 63 BCE. Roman rule was troubled by Jewish rebellions, which Rome answered with by destroying the Jews' temple.

In the late 2nd century BCE, the semi-independent Hasmonean kingdom conquered most of Palestine but the kingdom gradually became a vassal of Rome, which annexed Palestine in 63 BCE. Roman rule was troubled by Jewish rebellions, which Rome answered with by destroying the Jews' temple.
History of Palestine - Wikipedia

The crucifixion of Jesus occurred in 1st-century Judea, most likely in either AD 30 or AD 33. Jesus' crucifixion is described in the four canonical gospels, referred to in the New Testament epistles, attested to by other ancient sources, and is established as a historical event confirmed by non-Christian sources.According to the canonical gospels, Jesus was arrested and tried by the Sanhedrin, and then sentenced by Pontius Pilate to be scourged.

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Sanhedrin Court
Jesus was stripped of his clothing and offered vinegar mixed with myrrh or gall to drink after saying "I am thirsty". He was then hung between two convicted thieves and, according to the Gospel of Mark, died by the 9th hour of the day (at around 3:00 p.m.). During this time, the soldiers affixed a sign to the top of the cross stating "Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews" which, according to the Gospel of John (John 19:20), was written in three languages (Hebrew, Latin, and Greek). They then divided his garments among themselves and cast lots for his seamless robe, according to the Gospel of John. According to the Gospel of John, after Jesus' death, one soldier (named in extra-Biblical tradition as Longinus) pierced his side with a spear to be certain that he had died, then blood and water gushed from the wound. The Bible describes seven statements that Jesus made while he was on the cross, as well as several supernatural events that occurred.

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Crucifixion of Jesus - Wikipedia

In the canonical gospels, Pilate's court refers to the trial of Jesus in praetorium before Pontius Pilate, preceded by the Sanhedrin Trial. In the Gospel of Luke, Pilate finds that Jesus, being from Galilee, belonged to Herod Antipas' jurisdiction, and so he decides to send Jesus to Herod. After questioning Jesus and receiving very few replies, Herod sees Jesus as no threat and returns him to Pilate.
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In all four gospels, the Denial of Peter functions as an intermission during the Sanhedrin trial, while Matthew adds an intermission during the trial before Pilate that narrates the suicide of Judas Iscariot.

At the time Jerusalem was part of Roman Judea, the charges of the Sanhedrin against Jesus held no power before Pilate. He was therefore not a political threat and could be seen as innocent of such a charge. [Jn. 18:36]

Stepping back outside, Pilate publicly declared that he found no basis to charge Jesus,

Pilate's court - Wikipedia

Early in the morning the chief priests (Rabbis)and elders planned to have Jesus executed.

Thirty pieces of silver was the price for which Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus,
according to an account in the Gospel of Matthew 26:15 in the New Testament. Before the Last Supper, Judas is said to have gone to the chief priests and agreed to hand over Jesus in exchange for 30 silver coins, and to have attempted to return the money afterwards, filled with remorse.

Pilate explained the amnesty vote and asked: 'Do you want me to release 'the king of the Jews'?'

Chief priests
(Rabbis) and officials shouted: 'Crucify! Crucify!' Pilate: 'Go ahead and crucify him. [Pilate says] I myself find no guilt in him.' Jewish leaders: 'Our law says he must die because he claimed to be the Son of God.'

Pilate, interrogated Jesus inside. Pilate tried to set Jesus free.
Jewish leaders: (Rabbis)
If you let him go, you disobey Caesar. Anyone who claims to be a king opposes Caesar.'
Pilate brought out Jesus around noon, saying: 'Here is your king.' They [Jewish leaders] shouted: 'Take him away, crucify him!'
Pilate: 'Shall I crucify your king?' Chief priests: 'We have no king but Caesar.'

Pilate handed Jesus over to them for crucifixion.

Early in the morning Jesus was taken to Pilate by the Jewish leaders (Rabbis)


Pilate, inside: 'Are you the king of the Jews?' Jesus: 'My kingdom is not of this world, otherwise my servants would have fought to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders.'

Pilate: 'You are a king, then!' Jesus: 'You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.' Pilate: 'What is truth?'

Pilate, outside: 'I find no guilt in him.'

by the Jewish leaders under Pilate


In the New Testament, the Sanhedrin trial of Jesus refers to the trial of Jesus before the Sanhedrin (a Jewish judicial body) following his arrest in Jerusalem and prior to the trial before Pontius Pilate. It is an incident reported by all three Synoptic Gospels of the New Testament, while John's Gospel refers to a preliminary inquiry before Annas. The gospel accounts vary on a number of details.

Jesus is generally quiet, does not mount a defense, and rarely responds to the accusations, and is found guilty of various offenses: violating the Sabbath law (by healing on the Sabbath), threatening to destroy the Jewish Temple, practicing sorcery, exorcising people by the power of demons, and claiming to be the Messiah. He is then taken to Pontius Pilate, the governor of Roman Judaea, to be tried for claiming to be the King of the Jews.
Sanhedrin trial of Jesus - Wikipedia

Thereafter, in Pilate's Court, the Jewish elders (Rabbis) ask Pontius Pilate to judge and condemn Jesus, accusing him of claiming to be the King of the Jews. Such a claim would be considered treasonous, for being a direct challenge to the Roman authorities.

Rabbis forced the Romans to crucify Jesus
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God let Jesus be nailed to wood. He could have stopped that. Some say god was jealous of Jesus.
 

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