Question for "objective" right-wingers.....

[nat4900]

Lets see.........Isaac writes:

December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.

A new dimwitted right winger (talksalot) responds by writing:

U.S. diplomatic personnel who were killed during the George W. Bush administration died in circumstances other than an attack on a U.S. diplomatic mission [in Benghazi where 4 Americans were killed].....


Does anyone else see the blatant STUPIDTY.....or HYPOCRISY ???

 

[nat4900]

There is no set time limit for investigating. It takes as long as it needs to in order to get to the truth. If they don't get cooperation, like people not wanting to turn over emails and other things, it slows things down.

Want to bet that the entire investigation will END the day after next November's election???

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

There is no set time limit for investigating. It takes as long as it needs to in order to get to the truth. If they don't get cooperation, like people not wanting to turn over emails and other things, it slows things down.

Want to bet that the entire investigation will END the day after next November's election???

It's more likely that media coverage, such as it is, will simply end.

 

[kaz]

How much did the Democrats waste on "yellowcake?" That was a completely Democrat/liberal media fabricated controversy

three months after receiving a memo from the CIA informing him Iraq was not purchasing uranium [YELLOWCAKE], Cheney went before a national televised audience [Meet the Press]and refused to tell the truth about what he knew and insisted that Saddam was indeed buying yellowcake. All this coming from a man who said, “The suggestion that’s been made by some U.S. senators that the President of the United States or any member of this administration purposely misled the American people on pre-war intelligence is one of the most dishonest and reprehensible charges ever aired in this city."

Should we blame Dickface Cheney for being a freaking liar and war monger?

That's a clown question, bro.

And once again you clearly are demonstrating you don't give a shit about money on investigations, you just want to be the investigators. No one impeded that investigation, Obama has done nothing but. you want it over, demand he cooperate and end it.

W said british intelligence reported it, they confirmed they did and stood by it and said Joe lying his ass off Wilson had no idea what their sources were. Democrats never had any evidence either that the british were lying or that W knew they were lying when he said that. Democrats never explained why the Bush administration would send anyone to Africa to investigate the british claim, why if they did they would send a hack democrat. Then there was the plame crap where someone who told the media worked for the CIA yet supposedly she was "outed" in retaliation.

The whole yellowcake story was bull crap from beginning to end. Yet as you show here, you're still pushing it while you whine about a current investigation that Obama is actually impeding

 

[bedowin62]

questions for left-wing nutjobs. We know hillary wiped clean her private email server of 30,000 emails.
we already know, despite her LIES, that some of them DID contain super-senstive data and WERE LABLED AS SUCH.


how, not having a government email account, did hillary send and receive emails or communication relating to the events at benghazi?

isnt it perfectly reasonable to think she may have erased memos and communications involving Benghazi and THAT is THE REASON Republicans cant get to the crux of the matter?

 

[nat4900]

The whole yellowcake story was bull crap from beginning to end. Yet as you show here, you're still pushing it while you whine about a current investigation that Obama is actually impeding

Let me get this straight, imbecile......YOU bring up "yellowcake".....and I (perhaps foolishly) respond to that issue...........and you "accuse" me of "still pushing" it?????

 

[kaz]

The whole yellowcake story was bull crap from beginning to end. Yet as you show here, you're still pushing it while you whine about a current investigation that Obama is actually impeding

Let me get this straight, imbecile......YOU bring up "yellowcake".....and I (perhaps foolishly) respond to that issue...........and you "accuse" me of "still pushing" it?????

OK, fair enough. I retract the word "pushing."

And that was all you got out of my post? Your flaming hypocrisy didn't register at all?

 

[nat4900]

Thanks to Isaac, let me REPOST this incident....

December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.

Based on the above, SHOULD a 2 year investigation have been done on the State Department and Secretary?????

Come on.....test out your level of hypocrisy.....

 

[healthmyths]

Thanks to Isaac, let me REPOST this incident....

December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.

Based on the above, SHOULD a 2 year investigation have been done on the State Department and Secretary?????

Come on.....test out your level of hypocrisy.....

ABC’s “This Week”:
JAKE TAPPER: So, first of all, what is the latest you can tell us on who these attackers were at the embassy or at the consulate in Benghazi? We’re hearing that the Libyans have arrested people. They’re saying that some people involved were from outside the country, that there might have even been Al Qaida ties. What’s the latest information?

MS. RICE: Well, Jake, first of all, it’s important to know that there’s an FBI investigation that has begun and will take some time to be completed. That will tell us with certainty what transpired.
But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous — not a premeditated — response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated. We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to — or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in — in the wake of the revolution in Libya are — are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.
CBS’s “Face the Nation”
MS. RICE: So we’ll want to see the results of that [FBI] investigation to draw any definitive conclusions. But based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is in fact what began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy– –sparked by this hateful video. But soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals, joined in that– in that effort with heavy weapons of the sort that are, unfortunately, readily now available in Libya post-revolution. And that it spun from there into something much, much more violent.

“Fox News Sunday”
CHRIS WALLACE: Let’s talk about the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi this week that killed four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens.

The top Libyan official says that the attack on Tuesday was, quote, his words “preplanned”. Al Qaeda says the operation was revenge for our killing a top Al Qaeda leader.
MS. RICE: Well, first of all, Chris, we are obviously investigating this very closely. The FBI has a lead in this investigation. The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. That what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the video. People gathered outside the embassy and then it grew very violent and those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post-revolutionary Libya and that then spun out of control.
But we don’t see at this point signs this was a coordinated plan, premeditated attack. Obviously, we will wait for the results of the investigation and we don’t want to jump to conclusions before then. But I do think it’s important for the American people to know our best current assessment.

NBC’s “Meet the Press”

S. RICE: Well, let us– let me tell you the– the best information we have at present. First of all, there’s an FBI investigation which is ongoing. And we look to that investigation to give us the definitive word as to what transpired. But putting together the best information that we have available to us today our current assessment is that what happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo, almost a copycat of– of the demonstrations against our facility in Cairo, which were prompted, of course, by the video. What we think then transpired in Benghazi is that opportunistic extremist elements came to the consulate as this was unfolding. They came with heavy weapons which unfortunately are readily available in post revolutionary Libya. And it escalated into a much more violent episode. Obviously, that’s– that’s our best judgment now. We’ll await the results of the investigation. And the president has been very clear–we’ll work with the Libyan authorities to bring those responsible to justice.

CNN’s “State of the Union”

Ms. RICE: I have been to Libya and walked the streets of Benghazi myself. And despite what we saw in that horrific incident where some mob was hijacked ultimately by a handful of extremists, the United States is extremely popular in Libya and the outpouring of sympathy and support for Ambassador Stevens and his colleagues from the government, from people is evidence of that.
The fact is, Candy, that this is a turbulent time. It’s a time of dramatic change. It’s a change that the United States has backed because we understand that when democracy takes root, when human rights and people’s freedom of expression can be manifested, it may lead to turbulence in the short-term, but over the long-term, that is in the interest of the United States.

Flashback: What Susan Rice Said About Benghazi

“We do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned.”
She says it began “spontaneously … as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo,” and “extremist elements” joined in the protest. (It was later learned that Rice received her information from the CIA.)

So the FIRST position on five network appearances by Susan Rice to save their political slogan "Osama is dead GM is alive"
6 weeks from the election that was counter to the Libya President's opinion was a video!

The Mother of Benghazi victim said: Hillary and Susan Rice told me “nose to nose” that the Mohammed video was to blame"
Mother of Benghazi victim: Hillary and Susan Rice told me “nose to nose” that the Mohammed video was to blame « Hot Air

This is the real question....what did Obama's people jump ALL over the video as the fault with in 5 days! Blaming the video!
Political expediency! There was an election in six weeks and for the voters to think Al Qaida was behind a premeditated on the day 9/11... come on!
The optics alone would be devastating to the perception as Obama said:
Obama: 'Global War on Terror' Is Over
The "Global War on Terror" is over, President Barack Obama announced Thursday, saying the military and intelligence agencies will not wage war against a tactic but will instead focus on a specific group of networks determined to destroy the U.S.

This shift in rhetoric accompanies new or updated efforts to defeat al-Qaida and its affiliates, the president said in a speech at the National Defense University within Washington, DC's Fort McNair. Al-Qaida in Pakistan and Afghanistan is on a "path to defeat," he said, so the U.S. must focus instead on al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula -- "the most active" in plotting against the U.S. -- homegrown violent extremism and unrest in the Arab world that leads to attacks like the assault on the Benghazi diplomatic post.
Obama: 'Global War on Terror' Is Over

 

[bedowin62]

bush didnt send people out to LIE ABOUT attacks on embassies because he was in the middle of a re-election campaign; only obama did that

why do left-wingers keep lying to themselves and creating straw man arguments?

 

[Redfish]

George Bush was in office barely 8 months when America was attacked on 9/11/2001. Bill Clinton was using American planes to attack civilians in a defenseless European country while the same terrorists that he dismissed in the first attack on the World Trade center were attending flight school under his freaking nose. Clinton's idiot Attorney General even issued an order that prevented the FBI from sharing information with the CIA under threat of arrest and imprisonment. If President Bush made any errors it was not firing every dumb assed political appointee in the Clinton administration but he thought he would be a nice guy and keep the idiots on.

So, your conclusion is that 9-11 was all Clinton's fault.......Interesting.

It's actually a lie.

NO, its actually the truth. Clinton's degrading of our intelligence services by not letting them share data, coupled with his refusal to take OBL when he could have is the direct cause of 9/11.

 

[Redfish]

Because in the 911 investigation the Democrats weren't trying to protect the only potentially viable presidential candidate they have.

Interesting.....Yet ANOTHER (not-too-sharp) right winger OPENLY admitting that the Benghazi committee is nothing but, "lets-get-Hillary" witch hunt.......

(poor committee chair, Gowdy, is having a hard time spinning that the hearing is "objective")

Do you believe that it was caused by a video? or were obama, clinton, and rice lying for weeks in order to protect obama's reelection campaign?

 

[Correll]

George Bush was in office barely 8 months when America was attacked on 9/11/2001. Bill Clinton was using American planes to attack civilians in a defenseless European country while the same terrorists that he dismissed in the first attack on the World Trade center were attending flight school under his freaking nose. Clinton's idiot Attorney General even issued an order that prevented the FBI from sharing information with the CIA under threat of arrest and imprisonment. If President Bush made any errors it was not firing every dumb assed political appointee in the Clinton administration but he thought he would be a nice guy and keep the idiots on.

So, your conclusion is that 9-11 was all Clinton's fault.......Interesting.

It's actually a lie.

NO, its actually the truth. Clinton's degrading of our intelligence services by not letting them share data, coupled with his refusal to take OBL when he could have is the direct cause of 9/11.

Direct cause is a little strong.

But overall, yes.

 

[Redfish]

bush didnt send people out to LIE ABOUT attacks on embassies because he was in the middle of a re-election campaign; only obama did that

why do left-wingers keep lying to themselves and creating straw man arguments?

because somewhere deep down inside even they know that obama and clinton were lying about it.

Their defective liberal gene prevents them from accepting reality.

 

[Redfish]

George Bush was in office barely 8 months when America was attacked on 9/11/2001. Bill Clinton was using American planes to attack civilians in a defenseless European country while the same terrorists that he dismissed in the first attack on the World Trade center were attending flight school under his freaking nose. Clinton's idiot Attorney General even issued an order that prevented the FBI from sharing information with the CIA under threat of arrest and imprisonment. If President Bush made any errors it was not firing every dumb assed political appointee in the Clinton administration but he thought he would be a nice guy and keep the idiots on.

So, your conclusion is that 9-11 was all Clinton's fault.......Interesting.

It's actually a lie.

NO, its actually the truth. Clinton's degrading of our intelligence services by not letting them share data, coupled with his refusal to take OBL when he could have is the direct cause of 9/11.

Direct cause is a little strong.

But overall, yes.

does indirect cause make you feel better?

 

[Correll]

George Bush was in office barely 8 months when America was attacked on 9/11/2001. Bill Clinton was using American planes to attack civilians in a defenseless European country while the same terrorists that he dismissed in the first attack on the World Trade center were attending flight school under his freaking nose. Clinton's idiot Attorney General even issued an order that prevented the FBI from sharing information with the CIA under threat of arrest and imprisonment. If President Bush made any errors it was not firing every dumb assed political appointee in the Clinton administration but he thought he would be a nice guy and keep the idiots on.

So, your conclusion is that 9-11 was all Clinton's fault.......Interesting.

It's actually a lie.

NO, its actually the truth. Clinton's degrading of our intelligence services by not letting them share data, coupled with his refusal to take OBL when he could have is the direct cause of 9/11.

Direct cause is a little strong.

But overall, yes.

does indirect cause make you feel better?

Completely handicapped our intelligence services and allowed the attacks to be carried out totally unhindered.

 

[Redfish]

So, your conclusion is that 9-11 was all Clinton's fault.......Interesting.

It's actually a lie.

NO, its actually the truth. Clinton's degrading of our intelligence services by not letting them share data, coupled with his refusal to take OBL when he could have is the direct cause of 9/11.

Direct cause is a little strong.

But overall, yes.

does indirect cause make you feel better?

Completely handicapped our intelligence services and allowed the attacks to be carried out totally unhindered.

sounds like direct cause to me. but OK

 

[Correll]

It's actually a lie.

NO, its actually the truth. Clinton's degrading of our intelligence services by not letting them share data, coupled with his refusal to take OBL when he could have is the direct cause of 9/11.

Direct cause is a little strong.

But overall, yes.

does indirect cause make you feel better?

Completely handicapped our intelligence services and allowed the attacks to be carried out totally unhindered.

sounds like direct cause to me. but OK

It's important not to overstate the case.

I recall, old quote

"The Jesuits, when accused of killing three men and a dog, will produce a live dog".

 

[kaz]

The whole yellowcake story was bull crap from beginning to end. Yet as you show here, you're still pushing it while you whine about a current investigation that Obama is actually impeding

Let me get this straight, imbecile......YOU bring up "yellowcake".....and I (perhaps foolishly) respond to that issue...........and you "accuse" me of "still pushing" it?????

OK, fair enough. I retract the word "pushing."

And that was all you got out of my post? Your flaming hypocrisy didn't register at all?

So Nat, you think you're "objective," give an honest answer to these questions.

1) Bush said "British intelligence" said Hussein tried to buy yellowcake in Africa. We know he did, BTW, the only question was timing. But the British confirmed they said that, and to this day they stayed with it. So no matter what the British based it on, how could W have "lied" saying the British reported that? They did report that

2) The British said they had more than Wilson's sources of the forged document and they weren't telling him what it is to protect their sources. Furthermore Wilson's own report didn't say Hussein didn't try to buy yellowcake, it only said he couldn't verify he had. How do you prove a negative? He never proved anything about Hussein not buying yellowcake, all he couldn't do was prove he did. So again, how do you know anyone lied or was even wrong?

3) Why would the administration have the CIA send anyone to investigate a statement by it's own leader?

4) If they did, why would they send a partisan for the other party who wasn't even in the CIA? It's like the Democrats sending Rubio to investigate Benghazi, yeah, you'd do that

5) The media knew Plame was a CIA agent, she talked about it at coctail parties. Tim Russert, a declared Democrat said he and the rest of the DC reporters knew that. How does it make sense that anyone therefore would think "outing" her was punishment? And how could she possibly have been harmed by that since obviously she was a DC bureaucrat at that point and not a field agent. Or if she was she was the worst one ever since she talked about it in front of the media.

This is all basic information,and it clearly shows what a bunch of hack liars you are that you don't want money wasted on frivolous investigations, this was the most conjured investigation ever, it was utter stupidity from start to finish

 

[Flash]

Any loss of American lives is a tragedy......

That stated, it should raise some skepticism in any objective mind as the WHY it has taken the Benghazi select committee, about 2 additional months (and they're still going strong in their so-called investigation) to find out more about the loss of 4 American live.......than it took the 9-11 commission to investigate the loss of almost 3,000 American lives......???

Jeb Bush has just struggled with this obvious hypocrisy.

Jeb Bush Falls Apart When Asked Why He Blames Obama For Benghazi But Not W for 9/11

Because most of the real information in the tragedy is in the Clinton emails and the lying bitch won't come clean.