Question for Dims about the wall

[Claudette]

'Illegal' crossing attempts at US Southwest border triple in March from year ago
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So is that a YES or a NO on PUNISHING the illegal job-providers that will hire these folks?

That's a big fat YES.

 

[easyt65]

Says San Diego, who has proven that illegal Immigration was lowered by 95% where they used a wall / walls.

San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control

 

[easyt65]

This meme displays so much ignorance it's not even funny.

Marc you the ignorant one, over 70 countries have walls to keep out the unwanted!....You are simply dishonest, and yes, prosecute people that hire illegals!

Rich elitist Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein live behind walls....they must work.

 

[depotoo]

We can only imagine. I wonder how many lives those ‘packs’ have claimed?

It won't work.

Only a small portion of illegal immigrants come across the Southern border.

The rest take airplanes, or even boats in some cases.

Are you willing and ready to stop this illegal immigration by PUNISHING the businesses that hire them?

A rancher on the Arizona border provided us with all the footage from his hidden cameras planted around his land. Most of this footage is from 2018. Courtesy: Chilton Ranch / Arizona Border Recon
Posted on Sept 6

I wonder what they have on their backs?

 

[depotoo]

Shouldn’t they be demanding they take down their walls? Lol

This meme displays so much ignorance it's not even funny.

Marc you the ignorant one, over 70 countries have walls to keep out the unwanted!....You are simply dishonest, and yes, prosecute people that hire illegals!

Rich elitist Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein live behind walls....they must work.

 

[Auld Phart]

Do they come in legally, or illegally?

Build the wall, then worry about the ones overstaying their visas

How much money are you willing to waste for something that's not going to do what you think?

How much money are you willing to waste for something that's not going to

How much money has Washington already wasted on things that don't work?

Obamas shovel ready job program comes to mind.

How much wall could we have built on that fiasco?

 

[bripat9643]

It won't work.

Only a small portion of illegal immigrants come across the Southern border.

The rest take airplanes, or even boats in some cases.

Are you willing and ready to stop this illegal immigration by PUNISHING the businesses that hire them?

All lies, of course.

 

[bripat9643]

Do they come in legally, or illegally?

Build the wall, then worry about the ones overstaying their visas

How much money are you willing to waste for something that's not going to do what you think?

How much money are you willing to waste for something that's not going to

How much money has Washington already wasted on things that don't work?

Obamas shovel ready job program comes to mind.

How much wall could we have built on that fiasco?

How much did Obama spend on "Cash for Klunkers?"

Answer: $3 billion

 

[sartre play]

The wall plan lacks detail, just build it is not a plan.

 

[Skylar]

So those of you who think that building a border wall is evil, do you want to tear down what walls have already been built?

Tearing it down would cost money. So no. Just stop paying for maintenance and allow the slow attrition of time to do th job for us.

As remember, per Trump....the border is *already* secure.

 

[MarcATL]

Marc you the ignorant one, over 70 countries have walls to keep out the unwanted!....You are simply dishonest, and yes, prosecute people that hire illegals!

So how come I haven't seen not ONE, SINGLE, SOLITARY Republican in the media expressing this?

On the ignorance, the meme is just asinine because Honduras and Mexico aren't accessible via land. By that alone sets the meme as total nonsense.

But this is what rightwing fools want to propagate, so knock yourselves out.

#SMHGOP

 

[The Purge]

Marc you the ignorant one, over 70 countries have walls to keep out the unwanted!....You are simply dishonest, and yes, prosecute people that hire illegals!

So how come I haven't seen not ONE, SINGLE, SOLITARY Republican in the media expressing this?

On the ignorance, the meme is just asinine because Honduras and Mexico aren't accessible via land. By that alone sets the meme as total nonsense.

But this is what rightwing fools want to propagate, so knock yourselves out.

#SMHGOP

I have no idea!

 

[Skylar]

Marc you the ignorant one, over 70 countries have walls to keep out the unwanted!....You are simply dishonest, and yes, prosecute people that hire illegals!

So how come I haven't seen not ONE, SINGLE, SOLITARY Republican in the media expressing this?

On the ignorance, the meme is just asinine because Honduras and Mexico aren't accessible via land. By that alone sets the meme as total nonsense.

But this is what rightwing fools want to propagate, so knock yourselves out.

#SMHGOP

Simple: it doesn't punish brown people.

The solution for the vast majority of illegal immigration is simple: Focus on employers. Its like with a drug problem.....you don't focus on the users. You focus on the suppliers.

Make it mandatory to use E-Verify with hard jail time (min 1 year in federal prison) if an employer doesn't use the system when hiring someone. If a perspective employee is put through E-Verify and passes....then the employer is completely covered, even if later the employee is found to be an illegal.

Focusing on the illegals is just stupid policy. They are hard to find. They move around. We don't know their name. There are so many of them. And if you deport them, they can come back.

Focusing on the employers who hire illegals makes much more sense. They're easy to find (they usually advertise), they stay put in the same location, we know who they are, and there are far fewer employers than the illegals they hire.

And best of all, the E-verify system already exists. Just a legislative hip check on making it mandatory, a few dozen high profile prosecutions of employers who ignore the law.....and the supply of jobs for illegals will overwhelmingly dry up. And without work, illegals will most often deport themselves.

We could literally resolve the overwhelming majority of new illegal immigration by this time next year. But Republicans would never go for it. As they don't really want the problem solved.

 

[Siete]

simple answer -

there isn't any damn WALL.

 

[deanrd]

Republicans could build a better wall by getting an education. Then they wouldn’t have to worry about their jobs being taken by uneducated migrants.

They would be hiring them instead of competing against them.

 

[Pogo]

Do they come in legally, or illegally?

Build the wall, then worry about the ones overstaying their visas

How much money are you willing to waste for something that's not going to do what you think?

How much money are you willing to waste for something that's not going to

How much money has Washington already wasted on things that don't work?

Obamas shovel ready job program comes to mind.

How much wall could we have built on that fiasco?

Umm... I don't know where you live but out here in rural WNC the highway got widened from two lanes to four and that started immediately after the ARRA went through. And I mean immediately, like within a week.

Granted, a highway is not a wall. It actually helps people. And it isn't based on paranoid self-delusional "selling feelings" but rather on the real-world niceties of people needing to go places. You know, for silly stuff like --- food..... medical attention.... work..... commerce..... social connections....

What? Did the word "connections" throw you? Whelp, I'm here to help. "Connection" is the opposite of disconnection. You know, like construction is the opposite of destruction. See where I'm going here?

 

[MarcATL]

How much money has Washington already wasted on things that don't work?

Obamas shovel ready job program comes to mind.

How much wall could we have built on that fiasco?

Are you promoting FOLLOWING the likes of the Obama Administration w/the waste?

 

[otto105]

So those of you who think that building a border wall is evil, do you want to tear down what walls have already been built?

Just have trump’s golf courses stop hiring them

 

[MarcATL]

Simple: it doesn't punish brown people.

The solution for the vast majority of illegal immigration is simple: Focus on employers. Its like with a drug problem.....you don't focus on the users. You focus on the suppliers.

Make it mandatory to use E-Verify with hard jail time (min 1 year in federal prison) if an employer doesn't use the system when hiring someone. If a perspective employee is put through E-Verify and passes....then the employer is completely covered, even if later the employee is found to be an illegal.

Focusing on the illegals is just stupid policy. They are hard to find. They move around. We don't know their name. There are so many of them. And if you deport them, they can come back.

Focusing on the employers who hire illegals makes much more sense. They're easy to find (they usually advertise), they stay put in the same location, we know who they are, and there are far fewer employers than the illegals they hire.

And best of all, the E-verify system already exists. Just a legislative hip check on making it mandatory, a few dozen high profile prosecutions of employers who ignore the law.....and the supply of jobs for illegals will overwhelmingly dry up. And without work, illegals will most often deport themselves.

We could literally resolve the overwhelming majority of new illegal immigration by this time next year. But Republicans would never go for it. As they don't really want the problem solved.

POWERFUL!!!

 

[easyt65]

The wall plan lacks detail, just build it is not a plan.

Actually it does not lack detail. There is a plan. 'Just Build It' is some kind of slogan or chant some have taken up. A lot of research and planning have gone into it.