Question for DEI supporters.

[Drop Dead Fred]

While there isn't a specific list of "awesome DEI hires," I can provide insights into how DEI initiatives are beneficial and highlight some companies that continue to support these programs.

As a general rule, if a person can't give specific examples to support their statement, then I don't believe their statement.

By comparison, here are some real world examples of what DEI actually is in the real world.

Time and time and time again, “diversity,” “equity,” “inclusion,” and other similar words are being used as excuses to dumb down educational standards. Here are 24 examples.

By Daniel Alman (aka Dan from Squirrel Hill) October 15, 2024 Time and time and time again, “diversity,” “equity,” “inclusion,” and other similar words are being used as exc…

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Time and time and time again, “diversity,” “equity,” “inclusion,” and other similar words are being used as excuses to dumb down educational standards. Here are 24 examples.​

By Daniel Alman (aka Dan from Squirrel Hill)

October 15, 2024

Time and time and time again, “diversity,” “equity,” “inclusion,” and other similar words are being used as excuses to dumb down educational standards.

Here are 24 examples:

1) The New York Times wrote, “The Board of Regents on Monday eliminated a requirement that aspiring teachers in New York State pass a literacy test to become certified after the test proved controversial because black and Hispanic candidates passed it at significantly lower rates than white candidates.”

Original: Regents Drop Teacher Literacy Test Seen as Discriminatory (Published 2017)

Archive: https://archive.ph/GzyQM

2) The New York Times wrote, “A 2009 Princeton study showed Asian-Americans had to score 140 points higher on their SATs than whites, 270 points higher than Hispanics and 450 points higher than blacks to have the same chance of admission to leading universities.”

Original: Opinion | White Students’ Unfair Advantage in Admissions (Published 2017)

Archive: https://archive.ph/MEDXn

3) Patrick Henry High School, San Diego’s largest high school, cited “equity” as its reason for removing some of its classes in advanced English, advanced history, and advanced biology.

Original: San Diego’s largest high school quietly eliminated several honors courses. Parents are outraged

Archive: For subscribers: San Diego’s largest high school quietly eliminated several honors courses. Parents are outraged

4) The Vancouver School Board cited “equity and inclusion” for why it got rid of its honors courses in math and science at its high schools.

Original: Vancouver School Board phases out honours programs in high schools

Archive: https://archive.ph/MBOEo

5) In the name of equity, California will discourage students who are gifted at math

Original: In the Name of Equity, California Will Discourage Students Who Are Gifted at Math

Archive: https://archive.ph/N4CQC

6) PBS Boston affiliate WGBH: “Boston public schools suspends test for advanced learning classes; concerns about program’s racial inequities linger”

Original: Boston Public Schools Suspends Test For Advanced Learning Classes; Concerns About Program’s Racial Inequities Linger

Archive: Boston Public Schools Suspends Test For Advanced Learning Classes; Concerns About Program’s Racial Inequities Linger

7) Lowell High in San Francisco, one of the country’s best public high schools, replaced its merit based admissions with a lottery based admissions, because the school had too many Asians.

Original: SF School Board votes to end merit-based admission at Lowell High, move school into lottery system

Archive: https://archive.ph/iGzom

8) Expecting math students to get the right answer is now considered to be a form of “white supremacy.” See page 6 at this link:

Original: https://equitablemath.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/1_STRIDE1.pdf

Archive: Wayback Machine

 

[Drop Dead Fred]

We are told we have to have DEI. It is essential for the country.

However, not a single supporter of DEI has ever been able to list a single DEI hire. And if someone says a person is a DEI hire they are called RACIST.

Something isn’t adding up.

So my question to DEI supporters is: Can you provide a list of awesome DEI hires?

I predict we will get exactly ZERO examples.


"Diversity hire", "equity hire", or "DEI hire", are disparaging and controversial labels for persons from underrepresented groups, which are, according to this label, assumed to be less qualified and have supposedly received preferential treatment due to DEI policies

Diversity, equity, and inclusion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is one of the most brilliant questions that anyone has ever asked.

 

[Drop Dead Fred]

What proof do we have that said white males are being passed over for jobs by less qualified individuals that are not white males?

For decades, several colleges participated in an FAA approved program. But in 2013, Obama ended the program. 1,000 white men, who had recently graduated from the program, were rejected as trainees by the FAA because they were white males. These were the most qualified applicants, but Obama rejected them because they were white males. There is a class action lawsuit going on.

Brigida v. FAA - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[scruffy]

B of A just nixed DEI.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

For decades, several colleges participated in an FAA approved program. But in 2013, Obama ended the program. 1,000 white men, who had recently graduated from the program, were rejected as trainees by the FAA because they were white males. These were the most qualified applicants, but Obama rejected them because they were white males. There is a class action lawsuit going on.

Brigida v. FAA - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Got anything newer than 12 years old?

 

[IM2]

I have a big problem with this, I didn't even need to read the rest of it.

So, I am assuming that Americans are being told by their government that they have to have DEI. This bothers me, because the government shouldn't have any business imposing its morality on the people. If anything, the people should tell the government what their values/morality..etc are. I really feel that people are so used to their government telling them what to do that they are now ok with stuff like this. I would have just told the government to f*ck right off, but I am just one person, I have no power.

Since the government decided that whites would get everything for more than 200 years, the government is responsible for correcting their mistake.

 

[IM2]

I'm waiting for someone to show me HOW white women benefitted from DEI. If someone can show me the company who hires women because they are white, I'll believe you.

I have shown you all kinds of evidence. You just don't want to believe it. Whit women are included in diversity because white men weren't hiring anyone but other white men. What you don't believe is your problem; nobody has to show you anything more than what you have been shown.

You believe a race-baited lie because white male veterans are also part of DEI. S are white disabed men. In fact a white male disabled vet satisfies two areas of diversity. You and the rest of the white racist clowns here DO NOT KNOW WHAT DEI IS!

 

[IM2]

Got anything newer than 12 years old?

Drop Dead Fred is lying. The airline industry is well over 90 percent white. Therefore people in the airline industry were practicing discrimination against non-white people.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Sure, your not a tacit racist.

Can you name which people benefited the most from DEI programs?

Kamala. Kantanji Brown Jackson.

 

[IM2]

Kamala. Kantanji Brown Jackson.

Wrong again. Coney Barret is a DEI.

 

[Leo123]

Go and read the law, just because a black person gets a job does not serve as proof they were hired because they were black.

You are a trumpanzee bigot, another poor white victim dunce.

"just because a black person gets a job does not serve as proof they were hired because they were black."

Then they were hired based upon their merit. So, why do we need DEI in the first place?

After all, DEI seeks to identify folks by their skin color, sex idendtification and something called 'equity' which demands an assessment of someone being in a certain population strata. That is all racist and biased as well as exclusionary.

 

[Leo123]

You’re not a hiring manager or leader. You’re just a scared unskilled white guy who thinks his failures are because of someone with dark skin. Pathetic.

I however am a hiring manager and a leader. We recruit from HBCs and hire plenty of diverse qualified candidates. I’ve never hired an unqualified woman or minority. Why the fuck would I want my organization to fail?

Then, I would guess, you don't really need DEI.

 

[scruffy]

"just because a black person gets a job does not serve as proof they were hired because they were black."

Then they were hired based upon their merit. So, why do we need DEI in the first place?

After all, DEI seeks to identify folks by their skin color, sex idendtification and something called 'equity' which demands an assessment of someone being in a certain population strata. That is all racist and biased as well as exclusionary.

"Whiteness".

Is racist.

 

[Leo123]

"Whiteness".

Is racist.

Yes, 'whiteness' to them, is anything traditionally American and normal. Like families with a real man and real woman as real parents to real children who are secure in their natal gender and are free to develop without unnecessary, useless baggage foist on them by government groomer-teachers and educational Marxists.

 

[IM2]

"just because a black person gets a job does not serve as proof they were hired because they were black."

Then they were hired based upon their merit. So, why do we need DEI in the first place?

After all, DEI seeks to identify folks by their skin color, sex idendtification and something called 'equity' which demands an assessment of someone being in a certain population strata. That is all racist and biased as well as exclusionary.

Whites have not been hired due to merit. Whites identified merit based on white skin color, and your argument against DEI is based on merit only means white. Whites excluded us and still do regardless of merit. You know that because you've either seen it being done or you have done it yourself. Whites are 60 percent of the population but 76 percent of the workforce. Whites are not being excluded.

DEI insured that merit was why people were hired and not race. Only whites who are racists and ignorant of their history in regard to hiring and the behavior that created a nearly 100 percent white male workforce without regard to merit are why things like DEI are necessary.

White is a race, and when whites hire other whites, it has been mostly due to their skin color. The opposition to equal opportunity is ONLY done by whites who want to be able to hire whites only. It's time for the white grievance to stop because you have no valid grievance. The race problem we have was created by whites who chose to be racists and whites who elected racists to make laws. Whites created the racism in this country, and measures to fix the damage caused because of nearly 2.5 centuries of white racism is not a loss for whites.

 

[scruffy]

Yes, 'whiteness' to them, is anything traditionally American and normal. Like families with a real man and real woman as real parents to real children who are secure in their natal gender and are free to develop without unnecessary, useless baggage foist on them by government groomer-teachers and educational Marxists.

And math.

That too.

 

[IM2]

And math.

That too.

Wrong.

 

[candycorn]

We are told we have to have DEI. It is essential for the country.

However, not a single supporter of DEI has ever been able to list a single DEI hire. And if someone says a person is a DEI hire they are called RACIST.

Something isn’t adding up.

So my question to DEI supporters is: Can you provide a list of awesome DEI hires?

I predict we will get exactly ZERO examples.


"Diversity hire", "equity hire", or "DEI hire", are disparaging and controversial labels for persons from underrepresented groups, which are, according to this label, assumed to be less qualified and have supposedly received preferential treatment due to DEI policies

Diversity, equity, and inclusion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The new JCS chair was a DEI hire. He's far less qualified than the guy he replaced.

Candace Owens (college drop out)...classic DEI hire relative to the position she occupies.

 

[IM2]

Yes, 'whiteness' to them, is anything traditionally American and normal. Like families with a real man and real woman as real parents to real children who are secure in their natal gender and are free to develop without unnecessary, useless baggage foist on them by government groomer-teachers and educational Marxists.

"Whiteness" is not normal. "Whiteness" is not traditionally American.

This is traditional "American".

And it ain't white.

Lets see whitness and normal families like the white father who rapes his daughter? The white mom drunk off scotch and high on Percocet? How about the white baby daddy with 5 kids from 3 different women and numerous adulterous affairs? The white kids taught racism at home and who then get the shit beat out of them when the go outside of that "normal" whiteness they earned at home, because what they were taught was totally wrong?

 

[scruffy]

As a general rule, if a person can't give specific examples to support their statement, then I don't believe their statement.

By comparison, here are some real world examples of what DEI actually is in the real world.

Time and time and time again, “diversity,” “equity,” “inclusion,” and other similar words are being used as excuses to dumb down educational standards. Here are 24 examples.

By Daniel Alman (aka Dan from Squirrel Hill) October 15, 2024 Time and time and time again, “diversity,” “equity,” “inclusion,” and other similar words are being used as exc…

danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com

Time and time and time again, “diversity,” “equity,” “inclusion,” and other similar words are being used as excuses to dumb down educational standards. Here are 24 examples.​

By Daniel Alman (aka Dan from Squirrel Hill)

October 15, 2024

Time and time and time again, “diversity,” “equity,” “inclusion,” and other similar words are being used as excuses to dumb down educational standards.

Here are 24 examples:

1) The New York Times wrote, “The Board of Regents on Monday eliminated a requirement that aspiring teachers in New York State pass a literacy test to become certified after the test proved controversial because black and Hispanic candidates passed it at significantly lower rates than white candidates.”

Original: Regents Drop Teacher Literacy Test Seen as Discriminatory (Published 2017)

Archive: https://archive.ph/GzyQM

2) The New York Times wrote, “A 2009 Princeton study showed Asian-Americans had to score 140 points higher on their SATs than whites, 270 points higher than Hispanics and 450 points higher than blacks to have the same chance of admission to leading universities.”

Original: Opinion | White Students’ Unfair Advantage in Admissions (Published 2017)

Archive: https://archive.ph/MEDXn

3) Patrick Henry High School, San Diego’s largest high school, cited “equity” as its reason for removing some of its classes in advanced English, advanced history, and advanced biology.

Original: San Diego’s largest high school quietly eliminated several honors courses. Parents are outraged

Archive: For subscribers: San Diego’s largest high school quietly eliminated several honors courses. Parents are outraged

4) The Vancouver School Board cited “equity and inclusion” for why it got rid of its honors courses in math and science at its high schools.

Original: Vancouver School Board phases out honours programs in high schools

Archive: https://archive.ph/MBOEo

5) In the name of equity, California will discourage students who are gifted at math

Original: In the Name of Equity, California Will Discourage Students Who Are Gifted at Math

Archive: https://archive.ph/N4CQC

6) PBS Boston affiliate WGBH: “Boston public schools suspends test for advanced learning classes; concerns about program’s racial inequities linger”

Original: Boston Public Schools Suspends Test For Advanced Learning Classes; Concerns About Program’s Racial Inequities Linger

Archive: Boston Public Schools Suspends Test For Advanced Learning Classes; Concerns About Program’s Racial Inequities Linger

7) Lowell High in San Francisco, one of the country’s best public high schools, replaced its merit based admissions with a lottery based admissions, because the school had too many Asians.

Original: SF School Board votes to end merit-based admission at Lowell High, move school into lottery system

Archive: https://archive.ph/iGzom

8) Expecting math students to get the right answer is now considered to be a form of “white supremacy.” See page 6 at this link:

Original: https://equitablemath.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/1_STRIDE1.pdf

Archive: Wayback Machine

Deadly. Absolutely suicidal.