Question For Cons About The Illegal Immigration Problem...

[Rustic]

Are you ready and willing to PUNISH the businesses who hire these undocumented workers?

Why/why not?

Not only businesses, but individuals who live in gated communities and insist walls don't work, yet hire illegals for maids and landscappers, for example.

Trump would be in jail if having an illegal alien as a maid was jail worthy.

Our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror. create more poor people. Yet, the right wing believes their policies are sustainable.

Violent criminals should be executed, that is the only way to deal with repeat offenders

 

[danielpalos]

Are you ready and willing to PUNISH the businesses who hire these undocumented workers?

Why/why not?

Not only businesses, but individuals who live in gated communities and insist walls don't work, yet hire illegals for maids and landscappers, for example.

Trump would be in jail if having an illegal alien as a maid was jail worthy.

Our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror. create more poor people. Yet, the right wing believes their policies are sustainable.

Violent criminals should be executed, that is the only way to deal with repeat offenders

It takes morals and Constitutional laws to have moral standing.

 

[WillPower]

Round them up and send them to the Bikini Atoll in the Marshall Islands....it's got everything a beaner could dream of....sand, surf, coconuts....sure it's a little...uh, buzzed... but other than that....

 

[Meathead]

It takes morals and Constitutional laws to have moral standing.

Are you going to dictate morality to us? You are a self-righteous ass.

 

[BrokeLoser]

They wouldn't be able to hire people that are not here. Several years ago Arizona created their own immigration laws for their state. The results were much of the children not attending school, construction companies reporting that half their crew never showed up for work. Illegals got the hell out of that state quickly. DumBama took it to court and forced them to stop, and then they all came back.

OK, let's say we do that.

What about those brave, bold and able enough to make it through the cracks and enter into the country to work illegally.

Tell me about the punishment you have in store for those illegal job-creators that hire them.

How does an employer verify that they are illegal?

It reminds me of a similar discussion where a poster stated that landlords should be fined and imprisoned for renting to illegals. As a landlord, I wouldn't know where to start to verify their occupation or citizenship status here.

Okay, so we come out with some sort of system that verifies everybody. Don't you think that could lead to identity theft? No system is foolproof.

Every American is entitled to his or her day in court, and the presumption of innocence is still the law of our land. It's a simple case of pleading not-guilty because you had no way of knowing you were hiring illegals, and your fear of racial discrimination also led to your pressure of hiring them.

What can the government do with that?

ABOUT E-VERIFY
E-Verify is a web-based system that allows enrolled employers to confirm the eligibility of their employees to work in the United States. E-Verify employers verify the identity and employment eligibility of newly hired employees by electronically matching information provided by employees on the Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification, against records available to the Social Security Administration (SSA) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).


E-Verify is a voluntary program. However, employers with federal contracts or subcontracts that contain the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) E-Verify clause are required to enroll in E-Verify as a condition of federal contracting. Employers may also be required to participate in E-Verify if their states have legislation mandating the use of E-Verify, such as a condition of business licensing. Finally, in some instances employers may be required to participate in E-Verify as a result of a legal ruling.


E-Verify, which is available in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands, is currently the best means available to electronically confirm employment eligibility.

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why it's voluntary except for certain reasons, i don't know... but there is a mechanism to find out who's legal.

They wouldn't be able to hire people that are not here. Several years ago Arizona created their own immigration laws for their state. The results were much of the children not attending school, construction companies reporting that half their crew never showed up for work. Illegals got the hell out of that state quickly. DumBama took it to court and forced them to stop, and then they all came back.

OK, let's say we do that.

What about those brave, bold and able enough to make it through the cracks and enter into the country to work illegally.

Tell me about the punishment you have in store for those illegal job-creators that hire them.

How does an employer verify that they are illegal?

It reminds me of a similar discussion where a poster stated that landlords should be fined and imprisoned for renting to illegals. As a landlord, I wouldn't know where to start to verify their occupation or citizenship status here.

Okay, so we come out with some sort of system that verifies everybody. Don't you think that could lead to identity theft? No system is foolproof.

Every American is entitled to his or her day in court, and the presumption of innocence is still the law of our land. It's a simple case of pleading not-guilty because you had no way of knowing you were hiring illegals, and your fear of racial discrimination also led to your pressure of hiring them.

What can the government do with that?

ABOUT E-VERIFY
E-Verify is a web-based system that allows enrolled employers to confirm the eligibility of their employees to work in the United States. E-Verify employers verify the identity and employment eligibility of newly hired employees by electronically matching information provided by employees on the Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification, against records available to the Social Security Administration (SSA) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).


E-Verify is a voluntary program. However, employers with federal contracts or subcontracts that contain the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) E-Verify clause are required to enroll in E-Verify as a condition of federal contracting. Employers may also be required to participate in E-Verify if their states have legislation mandating the use of E-Verify, such as a condition of business licensing. Finally, in some instances employers may be required to participate in E-Verify as a result of a legal ruling.


E-Verify, which is available in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands, is currently the best means available to electronically confirm employment eligibility.

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why it's voluntary except for certain reasons, i don't know... but there is a mechanism to find out who's legal.

that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^, along with border arrests are at an all time low gives more reason to save taxpayers billions of dollars on a damn wall ..

This bullshit looks good on paper....and that’s it.
The Party of filth, the Mexicratic Party fights tooth and nail for wetback rights, they will not allow employers to dig too deep or ask too many questions, they have to make sure there is always a ‘work-around’ for beaners.
A Hispanic who works for me tells me he has (legal) people within his family who have 5-7 people working under their identity. This is an actual business here in Mexifornia. The people providing the SS# and iD receive a monthly fee and keep the tax refunds.
Illegal, but Not Undocumented
You people don’t really support a solution, you’ve found a new angle, a new talking point and that’s all.

 

[jc456]

Are you ready and willing to PUNISH the businesses who hire these undocumented workers?

Why/why not?

yep, let's begin.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Punishing employers doesn't warm the hatred in my heart like seeing people who don't look like me get punished....

 

[blastoff]

Do any of you think that there's any other solution that would stop this illegal immigration problem better than this one?

Cutting it off at the head, because if no one is willing to risk hiring them, no reason for them to come over here in the first place.

But, as it stands, they KNOW that tons of illegal job-creators are ready and willing to hire them, so they're flooding the country.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

They also know handouts will be available to them employed or not, and they sure beat the handouts, if any, their home governments are giving folks.

 

[danielpalos]

It takes morals and Constitutional laws to have moral standing.

Are you going to dictate morality to us? You are a self-righteous ass.

you are trying to do the same. we have a First Amendment. why not come up with economic arguments.

 

[playtime]

Punishing employers doesn't warm the hatred in my heart like seeing people who don't look like me get punished....

uh-huh. i am sure you look nothing like anyone in big corp... & believe me, they don't want you anywhere near them either.

 

[playtime]

It takes morals and Constitutional laws to have moral standing.

Are you going to dictate morality to us? You are a self-righteous ass.

lol.... says someone who is from the 'party of family values'.....

 

[Yarddog]

Are you ready and willing to PUNISH the businesses who hire these undocumented workers?

Why/why not?

Yeah sure. Well, you can also go to Any home Depot or U-haul and see guys standing around to work for cash. usually for 100 - 200 dollars a day tax free. Good chance that many or some of them are illegals, so maybe Home depot and U-haul should be required to hire security guards keeping solicitors off of the premises ? or check their ID

 

[Cellblock2429]

Are you ready and willing to PUNISH the businesses who hire these undocumented workers?

Why/why not?

/——/ looks like you’re getting an answer you weren’t expecting. Conservatives have said from day one that punishing the employers who hire illegals is the fastest way to deport them. Lock ‘em up.

 

[Meathead]

It takes morals and Constitutional laws to have moral standing.

Are you going to dictate morality to us? You are a self-righteous ass.

lol.... says someone who is from the 'party of family values'.....

Trust me. I cannot stand those who would presume to dictate morality to others, exactly as you just did. And then you have the audacity to talk about those who espouse family values. Fucking hypocrite!

 

[playtime]

It takes morals and Constitutional laws to have moral standing.

Are you going to dictate morality to us? You are a self-righteous ass.

lol.... says someone who is from the 'party of family values'.....

Trust me. I cannot stand those who would presume to dictate morality to others, exactly as you just did. And then you have the audacity to talk about those who espouse family values. Fucking hypocrite!

lol... when members of your party declared itself that proudly & loudly,

& says shit like there's a war on christianity whilst supporting your president who fucked a porn star without a rubber...while his wife was home with their 4 month old...

who tried to force an old woman outa her home so he can pave over it & have a parking lot for his casino....

& uses charity foundation cash for portraits & paying off a lawsuit he lost regarding fraud....

& that's just a few examples right off the top of my head...

then uh, ya - i get to use the morality card.

 

[Meathead]

It takes morals and Constitutional laws to have moral standing.

Are you going to dictate morality to us? You are a self-righteous ass.

lol.... says someone who is from the 'party of family values'.....

Trust me. I cannot stand those who would presume to dictate morality to others, exactly as you just did. And then you have the audacity to talk about those who espouse family values. Fucking hypocrite!

lol... when members of your party declared itself that proudly & loudly,

& says shit like there's a war on christianity whilst supporting your president who fucked a porn star without a rubber...while his wife was home with their 4 month old...

who tried to force an old woman outa her home so he can pave over it & have a parking lot for his casino....

& uses charity foundation cash for portraits & paying off a lawsuit he lost regarding fraud....

& that's just a few examples right off the top of my head...

then uh, ya - i get to use the morality card.

Keep your moral bs to yourself and stop being such a self-righteous twat.

 

[playtime]

It takes morals and Constitutional laws to have moral standing.

Are you going to dictate morality to us? You are a self-righteous ass.

lol.... says someone who is from the 'party of family values'.....

Trust me. I cannot stand those who would presume to dictate morality to others, exactly as you just did. And then you have the audacity to talk about those who espouse family values. Fucking hypocrite!

lol... when members of your party declared itself that proudly & loudly,

& says shit like there's a war on christianity whilst supporting your president who fucked a porn star without a rubber...while his wife was home with their 4 month old...

who tried to force an old woman outa her home so he can pave over it & have a parking lot for his casino....

& uses charity foundation cash for portraits & paying off a lawsuit he lost regarding fraud....

& that's just a few examples right off the top of my head...

then uh, ya - i get to use the morality card.

Keep your moral bs to yourself and stop being such a self-righteous twat.

i remember back in the day when he would tramp all over NYC with his whore marla - rubbing the fact that he was cheating on ivana in both hers & his children's faces. OH! & when he went on howard stern's show & bragged about the time he brought both ivana & marla to aspen for a ski vacation, thinking he can toggle between them, & they caught up with each other on the slopes... almost ended up in a fight.

 

[OKTexas]

Are you ready and willing to PUNISH the businesses who hire these undocumented workers?

Why/why not?

Absofuckinglutely!!!!!!!!! Major fines for first time offense, jail for subsequent offenses.

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[Meathead]

i remember back in the day when he would tramp all over NYC with his whore marla - rubbing the fact that he was cheating on ivana in both hers & his children's faces. OH! & when he went on howard stern's show & bragged about the time he brought both ivana & marla to aspen for a ski vacation, thinking he can toggle between them, & they caught up with each other on the slopes... almost ended up in a fight.

Now who's the asshole espousing family values? Fucking hypocrite!

 

[playtime]

i remember back in the day when he would tramp all over NYC with his whore marla - rubbing the fact that he was cheating on ivana in both hers & his children's faces. OH! & when he went on howard stern's show & bragged about the time he brought both ivana & marla to aspen for a ski vacation, thinking he can toggle between them, & they caught up with each other on the slopes... almost ended up in a fight.

Now who's the asshole espousing family values? Fucking hypocrite!

well, i gotta say that i am still on my first marriage of 33 years & have only one baby daddy.

yep, i gots me some good family values.

bigley.