Psychopath Zelensky considering accepting Putin's 4 demands to end Ukraine war.

[SavannahMann]

Putin is a great man and humanitarian, and future historians will agree! ...

Are you sure? Let’s be honest. With the lies he’s told during this unjustified invasion he is liable to supplant Ivan the Terrible as the worst leader in Russian history.

 

[theHawk]

The egotistical Zelensky should have done this when Russian troops first crossed the border. Instead of giving his citizens the false hope of a victory. Resulting in death and destruction throughout Ukraine.
Putin's 4 reasonable demands to stop the war.
#1 All Ukrainians to lay down their weapons and stop fighting.
#2 Signed pledge that Ukraine will never become a member of NATO
#3 Recognize that Crimea is now a part of Russia
#4 Recognize the two separatist regions Donbas and Luhansk as independent state.

Where Zelensky Is Open to 'Compromise' On Russia's 4 Demands to End War

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said he's open to negotiating, but he has to consider the lives of the people who elected him.

www.newsweek.com

If he does agree to a peace deal, the left will throw him under the bus and call him a Putin stooge.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Leaders of the Democrat party .... America for the next 3 years.

all your telling me is you are just another die hard party person....

 

[Turtlesoup]

This 5 minute video will explain a lot. ...

Zelenskis mistake---that Biden is completely bought off and will not stand up to Putin? This makes Zelenski evil? Oh boy...

 

[Turtlesoup]

Are you sure? Let’s be honest. With the lies he’s told during this unjustified invasion he is liable to supplant Ivan the Terrible as the worst leader in Russian history.

If Putin loses to tiny Ukraine---he should go down in the History books as Putin the *****.

 

[Dragonlady]

Exactly. I tried to tell people here weeks ago that this was all Putin wanted. He wants Crimea and a region in the north both largely all Russian and a guarantee that NATO will not come up against his border.

Zelensky should sign that deal immediately.

Too bad Biddum is such a worthless asshole: if he was worth 2¢, he would have negotiated this between the parties instead of talking all bravado and sending troops and jet fighters to the region trying to spark a full-scale war.

Did he tell you this personally, or are you just pulling stuff out of your ass?

Putin has frequently opined that the breakup of the Soviet Union was the worst tragedy of the 20th Century. He's trying to restore the Russian Empire.

If Putin wants to keep NATO away, he should stop invading his neighbours.

 

[sparky]

#2 Signed pledge that Ukraine will never become a member of NATO

Which they see as their version of our cuban missle crisis

~S~

 

[sparky]

#4 Recognize the two separatist regions Donbas and Luhansk as independent state.

Hasn't Mr Z been in a civil war with them for years?

~S~

 

[SavannahMann]

Which they see as their version of our cuban missle crisis

~S~

yet we didn’t demand that Castro stand down. We didn’t demand that the Soviets abandon Cuba or disavow them.

 

[LilOlLady]

The egotistical Zelensky should have done this when Russian troops first crossed the border. Instead of giving his citizens the false hope of a victory. Resulting in death and destruction throughout Ukraine.
Putin's 4 reasonable demands to stop the war.
#1 All Ukrainians to lay down their weapons and stop fighting.
#2 Signed pledge that Ukraine will never become a member of NATO
#3 Recognize that Crimea is now a part of Russia
#4 Recognize the two separatist regions Donbas and Luhansk as independent state.

Where Zelensky Is Open to 'Compromise' On Russia's 4 Demands to End War

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said he's open to negotiating, but he has to consider the lives of the people who elected him.

www.newsweek.com

Not until Zelensky gets more aid he can stash offshore banks and property.

 

[LilOlLady]

yet we didn’t demand that Castro stand down. We didn’t demand that the Soviets abandon Cuba or disavow them.

Not the same and you should know that.

 

[Sunni Man]

Hasn't Mr Z been in a civil war with them for years?

Yes, the Donbas region is populated by ethnic Russian speaking people.
Zelensky has killed 14,000 of them in a genocidal war to eliminate them.

 

[SavannahMann]

Yes, the Donbas region is populated by ethnic Russian speaking people.
Zelensky has killed 14,000 of them in a genocidal war to eliminate them.

During the Soviet Union most people spoke Russian. That is proof that some still do. But the vast majority of Ukrainian speak the Ukrainian Language.

Because some learned Russian while they were occupied by yet another totalitarian Russian Empire is not proof of anything.

**** the Russians. Make them suffer. Make them so miserable that they envy the great life of a homeless person anywhere else in the world.

 

[SavannahMann]

Not the same and you should know that.

Really? Why not?

 

[sparky]

Yes, the Donbas region is populated by ethnic Russian speaking people.
Zelensky has killed 14,000 of them in a genocidal war to eliminate them.

interesting Sunni
so where are the Donbas region folks in all of this ???

~S~

 

[Sunni Man]

interesting Sunni
so where are the Donbas region folks in all of this ???

The majority of them are ethnic Russians fighting with the Russian army in the hope of the Donbas region breaking away from Ukraine and either becoming an independent state or a part of Russia.
Although, there is a minority of pro-Ukrainian militia groups fighting the Russias for the Donbas region to remain with Ukraine.

 

[Toro]

The majority of them are ethnic Russians fighting with the Russian army in the hope of the Donbas region breaking away from Ukraine and either becoming an independent state or a part of Russia.
Although, there is a minority of pro-Ukrainian militia groups fighting the Russias for the Donbas region to remain with Ukraine.

You're losing Sunni Woman.

Because you're a loser!

 

[Seymour Flops]

The egotistical Zelensky should have done this when Russian troops first crossed the border. Instead of giving his citizens the false hope of a victory. Resulting in death and destruction throughout Ukraine.
Putin's 4 reasonable demands to stop the war.
#1 All Ukrainians to lay down their weapons and stop fighting.
#2 Signed pledge that Ukraine will never become a member of NATO
#3 Recognize that Crimea is now a part of Russia
#4 Recognize the two separatist regions Donbas and Luhansk as independent state.

Where Zelensky Is Open to 'Compromise' On Russia's 4 Demands to End War

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said he's open to negotiating, but he has to consider the lives of the people who elected him.

www.newsweek.com

#1 is absurd. The minute the Ukrainians lay down their weapons, the Russians will have won and can take #2, #3, and #4 without worrying about getting agreement.

For Ukraine to keep their arms and to give Russia numbers two through three in exchange for Russian withdrawal seem to make sense to this outsider. But I'm not in Zelensky's shoes, so I could not criticize him for not accepting them.

 

[sparky]

But I'm not in Zelensky's shoes

It's starting to appear Mr Z's options are few , if at all

~S~

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

If he does agree to a peace deal, the left will throw him under the bus and call him a Putin stooge.

This shows the utter unreality of Trump Republican views obout “the left.” In fact, within Ukraine the problem confronting Zelensky if he settles without an obvious “victory” over Putin will come from the right. He couldn’t accept the old (internationally negotiated) Minsk2 Accords because hard Ukrainian nationalists in the military and parliament would not stand for it. The same elements may attack Biden and “the West” for “selling out” Ukrainian aspirations to take back Crimea, Donbas, etc.