Protesters topple Confederate monument on UNC campus

[OODA_Loop]

Democrats erasing edifices to their hard racism in favor of their softer Section 8-style racism of today.

 

[Hiryuu]

If someone sees themselves being shot at, their buildings blown up, their churches being burned down, what does one do ? Nothing ?

I'm pretty sure they would have preferred the soldiers do the same thing they want those opposed now to do (surrender).

 

[SassyIrishLass]

How quaint ....vandalism

 

[Correll]

No one can change history by toppling statues.

Its history is as a monument erected in 1913 to the Jim Crow laws which were keeping the blacks in their place. It glorifies men who fought for a government based on the inferiority of the black man, which intended to preserve slavery. History will record that such men were less likely to be glorified 150 years after the war.

Your excuses for you cultural bigotry and disrespect for the dead, are noted and laughed at.

 

[Hiryuu]

How quaint ....vandalism

Perhaps they are just relieved they showed that mean old statute who was boss before it ruined their safe space just by standing there.

 

[cnm]

Your excuses for you cultural bigotry and disrespect for the dead, are noted and laughed at

I guess you are disappointed Federal property was retained and slavery was not preserved. Fair enough. I accept your cultural standards.

 

[cnm]

Perhaps they are just relieved they showed that mean old statute who was boss before it ruined their safe space just by standing there.

There's precedent for that.

 

[martybegan]

They'll put it back up next week.

Probably not. I'm sure the UNC admin will waffle and delay and sooner or later say they won't put it back up "in the interest of safety"

 

[Correll]

Your excuses for you cultural bigotry and disrespect for the dead, are noted and laughed at

I guess you are disappointed Federal property was retained and slavery was not preserved. Fair enough. I accept your cultural standards.

Your straw man is yours, not mine. Your request that I join you in playing with it, is disrespectfully declined.


My point stands.


Your excuses for you cultural bigotry and disrespect for the dead, are noted and laughed at.

If you want to actually address what I said, I will be happy to respond to THAT.

 

[martybegan]

Public, or private land, the destruction of property is illegal, vandalism, and shows how violence, and destruction is accepted if those in power agree politically. It is disgusting, and evidence of a society in decline. It has to stop.

Guy, I'm an old man, and I heard the same kind of stuff said i the 1960's...

Society is going to be fine.

The question is, should we keep up statues that were only erected in the first place to denigrate and intimidate a large portion of the population?

Nobody put these statues up in the 1870's... People were damned mad about the ruin Davis and Lee had inflicted on them.

they put them up in the 1920's to put the Darkies in their place.

Now people of color are saying, "No More".

Considering most of the men fighting at the time were in their 20's, and a lot of these statues went up in the early 1900's, it's actually around the time a lot of the veterans on both sides started dying off.

The soldiers and sailors arch in Grand Army Plaza was built from 1888-1892, closer to the age of this statue than the end of the civil war.

Soldiers' and Sailors' Arch - Wikipedia

 

[Hiryuu]

There's precedent for that.

The people in Iraq are probably relieved they no longer have anything to fear from that mean old statue.

 

[Claudette]

Protesters topple Confederate monument on UNC campus
thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/402521-clapper-brennans-rhetoric-is-becoming-an-issue-in-and-of-itself
08/20/18 10:20 PM EDT --- Protesters on the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill campus on Monday night brought down a controversial monument dedicated to Confederate soldiers, according to media reports. The fate of monuments honoring Confederate soldiers have become a hot-button issue in the wake of last year's violent white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Va.



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I don’t seem to see any white supremacy in the world today. What I'm seeing is an awful lot of black supremacy and racism and Marxist Socialist terrorism in America. Seems the vandals are now setting the rules. Can the Cheka be close behind?
No one can change history by toppling statues. It shows mental impotence. You gain your rightful place in the world by building not destroying.
I doubt the average Southern foot soldier owned slaves. They were called and served in both the North and the South. Will the memorial to the Black soldiers that served in the 1st Kansas Colored Volunteers. also be toppled soon?
Should we be looking forward to seeing the Memorials to those that served in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam also destroyed by the terrorists that mask themselves like the KKK?

You know. That statue has been there for over a hundred years and now all of a sudden people find it objectionable??

Good Lord talk about fools.

 

[cnm]

Your excuses for you cultural bigotry and disrespect for the dead, are noted and laughed at.

I accept as your cultural standard your support for the glorification of those who fought for the preservation of slavery and for the theft of Federal property.

 

[Correll]

Public, or private land, the destruction of property is illegal, vandalism, and shows how violence, and destruction is accepted if those in power agree politically. It is disgusting, and evidence of a society in decline. It has to stop.

Guy, I'm an old man, and I heard the same kind of stuff said i the 1960's...

Society is going to be fine.

The question is, should we keep up statues that were only erected in the first place to denigrate and intimidate a large portion of the population?

Nobody put these statues up in the 1870's... People were damned mad about the ruin Davis and Lee had inflicted on them.

they put them up in the 1920's to put the Darkies in their place.

Now people of color are saying, "No More".

Considering most of the men fighting at the time were in their 20's, and a lot of these statues went up in the early 1900's, it's actually around the time a lot of the veterans on both sides started dying off.

The soldiers and sailors arch in Grand Army Plaza was built from 1888-1892, closer to the age of this statue than the end of the civil war.

Soldiers' and Sailors' Arch - Wikipedia

And a time when their children, would be the ones in charge making decisions on funding parks and buildings, ect ect.

And yet libs see the timing as "evidence" of ill intent.

 

[cnm]

The people in Iraq are probably relieved they no longer have anything to fear from that mean old statue.

Don't you think it a shame history was torn down?

 

[cnm]

And a time when their children, would be the ones in charge making decisions on funding parks and buildings, ect ect.

Yup. Making sure Jim Crow was in place and blacks kept to theirs. One sees an increase in Confederate monuments around the Civil Rights era as well. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au

 

[Correll]

Your excuses for you cultural bigotry and disrespect for the dead, are noted and laughed at.

I accept as your cultural standard your support for the glorification of those who fought for the preservation of slavery and for the theft of Federal property.

That is your spin on the matter. YOur assumption that I agree with you, is idiotic in the extreme.

 

[mdk]

Hopefully those responsible are caught, expelled, and, prosecuted.

 

[martybegan]

Public, or private land, the destruction of property is illegal, vandalism, and shows how violence, and destruction is accepted if those in power agree politically. It is disgusting, and evidence of a society in decline. It has to stop.

Guy, I'm an old man, and I heard the same kind of stuff said i the 1960's...

Society is going to be fine.

The question is, should we keep up statues that were only erected in the first place to denigrate and intimidate a large portion of the population?

Nobody put these statues up in the 1870's... People were damned mad about the ruin Davis and Lee had inflicted on them.

they put them up in the 1920's to put the Darkies in their place.

Now people of color are saying, "No More".

Considering most of the men fighting at the time were in their 20's, and a lot of these statues went up in the early 1900's, it's actually around the time a lot of the veterans on both sides started dying off.

The soldiers and sailors arch in Grand Army Plaza was built from 1888-1892, closer to the age of this statue than the end of the civil war.

Soldiers' and Sailors' Arch - Wikipedia

And a time when their children, would be the ones in charge making decisions on funding parks and buildings, ect ect.

And yet libs see the timing as "evidence" of ill intent.

The only monument that was 100% about racism was one of the ones in New Orleans.

This one.

Battle of Liberty Place Monument - Wikipedia

It technically isn't even a Civil War memorial.

 

[Correll]

And a time when their children, would be the ones in charge making decisions on funding parks and buildings, ect ect.

Yup. Making sure Jim Crow was in place and blacks kept to theirs. One sees an increase in Confederate monuments around the Civil Rights era as well. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.

Jim Crow did not need fucking STATUES to make it real.

Dont' be silly.


And yes, the Civil Rights era just happened to be around the Centennial of the War, another good time for statues and monuments to go up.


You need to be less narrowminded. Not everyone is focused on the same shit you are.