Zone1 Protestants seem to always want to toss out the Old Testament, the Catholic Church: NOT

[kjw47]

The message someone like Olsteen sends, intentionally or otherwise is

If you are poor, you are a worse sinner than the rich person. God would make you wealthy if you only..... [whatever]

poppycock

I am not sure about that, but i have heard him say on TV--say 3 lines of prayer with me and you are saved--that is a croc.

 

[surada]

you don't have a clue

If you knew half what I know about the CC, you'd convert

You're obnoxious. You are discouraging any regard for Catholicism.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Of course you don't. You've been told probably since you were in the cradle that Catholics are evil, the RCC will be the seat of the anti-Christ (these days even Catholics wonder about that one, however) and other LIES.

Only informed Catholics like myself understand Catholicism, but you avoid them like the plague, I am sure. Then you have the gall to put yourself out as some expert on Catholicism.

ha ha.. that's comical. But sadly, it is also

tragic.

Everyone should know Jesus like devout Catholics do. It is very sad that they do not. They don't know what they're missing.

You don't have a clue as to anything about Christ, your hubris and ego reveal that nicely.

 

[JustAGuy1]

FYI

I don't think ONE of these posts is about what the OP says.

The thread started out talking about the beginnings of the CHURCH, specifically, the buildings God wanted built (starting with King David)

Now look where we are at... I wish people would stick to the damn topic

Anyone who speaks about himself in the 3rd person needs a butt whuppin.

 

[1miseryindex]

I am not sure about that, but i have heard him say on TV--say 3 lines of prayer with me and you are saved--that is a croc.

well, I don't know what the prayers are but prayer IS powerful.

The problem is that you can be "saved"

but that in and of itself will not save you FOREVER. Only adhering to Christ until the very end does that....

it is far from being a one time event... far far from it. We are very fallen creatures. We need Jesus DAILY --which is one reason the Catholic Church Jesus founded has Holy Mass every day (though not all Churches have Mass on Monday, the priest's normal day off)

 

[kjw47]

well, I don't know what the prayers are but prayer IS powerful.

The problem is that you can be "saved"

but that in and of itself will not save you FOREVER. Only adhering to Christ until the very end does that....

it is far from being a one time event... far far from it. We are very fallen creatures. We need Jesus DAILY --which is one reason the Catholic Church Jesus founded has Holy Mass every day (though not all Churches have Mass on Monday, the priest's normal day off)

The problem is that most of them are those that work iniquity( practice a sin) they are NOT saved as long as they do. His words are not truth. Jesus is 100% clear--Matt 7:21-23--Those living now to do his Fathers will=OT-NT, 1540 pages of utterances) are the ones who get to enter his kingdom( be saved) 3 lines of prayer does not cut it.

Those words-3 lines of prayer and you are saved has gotten many tithes for those teachers of darkness.

 

[Zebra]

Most Protestants do not seem to know anything much about the Old Testament. I've read the entire thing. Parts of it are a little peculiar, but that's because, or partly because we are in the 21st century, and (most of us are) American.

Enough said IMO

In any case, the most important thing IMO about the Old T is the Ark of the Covenant. Even a lot of Catholics don't know about that. I didn't either until a few years ago.

It was the beginning of the Church on Earth, meaning the one established by Christ himself. Basically, King David started being concerned that he himself lived in a palace and the Ark of the Covenant (a sacred "box" or tabernacle carried by the Israelites everywhere they went, a tabernacle where God would speak to them) did not have such a... worthy place. God spoke through a prophet and the prophet told David that God didn't need a house since He created the whole universe. But nonetheless, God approved of David building Him a house.

It's a fascinating story. It was in this House of God that God said He would "visit" man and listen to their prayers.

protestants also have the OT

 

[Zebra]

in my experience it is the Evangelicals who talk more of the OT than of the NT

 

[Frankenstein]

There you go! You were welcomed into a community of believers, and you said, "So long." The past cannot be changed. For a short time you were a member of the Kingdom and that cannot be changed. You left the Father's Kingdom and that is the truth you are living in the present, living as if you were never baptized?

Yes, I was baptized but I renounced the church and unbaptized myself, if that's a word.

You were never saved, or backslidden, sounds like you were never actually saved, or actually repented, once save one would never want to go back!

 

[GLASNOST]

....., once save one would never want to go back!

That's what they say about death too.

 

[Frankenstein]

That's what they say about death too.

If you say so

 

[GLASNOST]

..... once save one would never want to go back!

That's what they say about death too.

If you say so

I do say so.

 

[hobelim]

Yes, I was baptized but I renounced the church and unbaptized myself, if that's a word.

Thats awesome. Well done! Just be careful. Many crawl out of the pit only to get caught in a trap.

 

[hadit]

Most Protestants do not seem to know anything much about the Old Testament. I've read the entire thing. Parts of it are a little peculiar, but that's because, or partly because we are in the 21st century, and (most of us are) American.

Enough said IMO

In any case, the most important thing IMO about the Old T is the Ark of the Covenant. Even a lot of Catholics don't know about that. I didn't either until a few years ago.

It was the beginning of the Church on Earth, meaning the one established by Christ himself. Basically, King David started being concerned that he himself lived in a palace and the Ark of the Covenant (a sacred "box" or tabernacle carried by the Israelites everywhere they went, a tabernacle where God would speak to them) did not have such a... worthy place. God spoke through a prophet and the prophet told David that God didn't need a house since He created the whole universe. But nonetheless, God approved of David building Him a house.

It's a fascinating story. It was in this House of God that God said He would "visit" man and listen to their prayers.

Uhhhh, hate to burst your bubble, but God did NOT approve of David building a temple, He approved of David's SON, Solomon doing it because David had blood on his hands. If you're going to chastise people for not having a lot of knowledge about something and hold yourself superior as a knowledgeable source, you should make sure you're correct.

 

[GLASNOST]

Thats awesome. Well done! Just be careful. Many crawl out of the pit only to get caught in a trap.

I have been out of "the pit" since the mid-1970s and so far no trap. I haven't murdered anyone, never been an alcoholic, or a drug abuser, nor a criminal. Life is good.

 

[hobelim]

Uhhhh, hate to burst your bubble, but God did NOT approve of David building a temple, He approved of David's SON, Solomon doing it because David had blood on his hands. If you're going to chastise people for not having a lot of knowledge about something and hold yourself superior as a knowledgeable source, you should make sure you're correct.

I'm sure you know that the number of the beast is a number of a man whose number is 666.

The only time that number is associated with one man is Solomon who received a yearly stipend of 666 talents of gold, (25 tons), taken from the temple treasury not including taxes, tolls, and tributes fleeced from the laity daily.

The same system adopted by the Church. They even copied the costumes hats and liturgical practices, not to mention a sacrificial alter, ( for Jesus of course) , mimicking the same corruption of first century temple worship.

I hate to break the news to you sonny, but you have 666 tattooed right in the middled of your addled forehead.

 

[hadit]

I'm sure you know that the number of the beast is a number of a man whose number is 666.

The only time that number is associated with one man is Solomon who received a yearly stipend of 666 talents of gold, (25 tons), taken from the temple treasury not including taxes, tolls, and tributes fleeced from the laity daily.

The same system adopted by the Church. They even copied the costumes hats and liturgical practices, not to mention a sacrificial alter, ( for Jesus of course) , the same exact corruption of first century temple worship.

Your imagination has nothing to do with God allowing Solomon, NOT David, to build the temple. That is the point.

 

[Frankenstein]

I do say so.

Good for you!

 

[GLASNOST]

... once save one would never want to go back!

That's what they say about death too.

If you say so

I do say so.

Good for you!

Why?

 

[Zebra]

I have been out of "the pit" since the mid-1970s and so far no trap. I haven't murdered anyone, never been an alcoholic, or a drug abuser, nor a criminal. Life is good.

what was the pit?