Zone1 Protestants never tell you which Church in the world goes back in time to the Resurrection

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He is Michael. It is Jesus standing up as Gods appointed king in the last days for Gods chosen-Daniel 12:1
But then when all is back to perfection( new earth, new heavens) Jesus must hand the kingdom back to his God and Father and subject himself( 1Cor 15:24-28) = forever.

What Scripture says Jesus is Michael.

 

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Hebrews 1:4--He has become( means he was equal to them) better than the angels after being given the name Jesus.

Actually, He was one of us, which means He was a little lower than the angels, just like us. Please do try to keep up, because details like that matter.

 

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Let's see what else that passage says:

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

They are equal.

Yes verse 9 shows Jesus has a God.
Only the Father knows the day and hour= no equality. (John 5:30-Jesus can do 0 of his own initiative.

 

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No, you have to link to a credible source that says the King James translators did NOT have access to manuscripts written in the original languages. Don't try to get around it by saying, "It's common knowledge", because it isn't.

No originals remained in the 1300,s or after.

 

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Yes verse 9 shows Jesus has a God.
Only the Father knows the day and hour= no equality. (John 5:30-Jesus can do 0 of his own initiative.

Jesus resurrected himself. He did that all by himself.

 

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Firstborn is a rank, not a literal declaration of birth order. David, for example, was declared the firstborn of his family, though he was the youngest son. All things were created by Him that were created. Come on, you know this.

Prov 8:22-25 shows he was created.
Daniel 7:13-15--one like the son of man( a created being) was appointed to be king of Gods kingdom.
1Cor 15:24-28--But after all is made back to perfection= new earth, new heavens) Jesus must hand the kingdom back to his God and Father and subject himself) = forever.
God is in subjection to none.

 

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That just says Michael will stand up to oppose the "vile person" described in the previous chapter, not that he is Yeshua. We already know Michael is an archangel, not Yeshua. And where does it name Michael as God's appointed king?

We've already established that Yeshua has taken a secondary role to the Father. I do that with my boss, but we're both equal human beings.

I will not let you forget or ignore that He first LOWERED and HUMBLED Himself to become one of us yet didn't think anything wrong with being equal to God. You refuse to deal with that.

Dan 7:13-15--One like the son of man= (a created being) was appointed to be king of Gods kingdom.

 

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Yet God commands angels to worship Yeshua:

6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Oh, dear, it DOES say He calls Yeshua God.

Oh, and it is your "translation" that is altered. This one is a real translation.

No he commands them to do obeisance to his appointed king. The same exact Greek word( Proskenaue) for worship to God is obeisance to a king, honor to a judge, plus 2 other meanings. Obeisance is correct for one who has a God.

 

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You don't know who Jesus is.

Gods son, Gods appointed king, The Messiah--You see at John 17:3-Jesus was sent by THE ONLY TRUE GOD, that means the ONLY TRUE GOD did not come down here.

 

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My version was translated by language scholars of Hebrew and Greek. Yours wasn't.

Mine had holy spirit behind them.
Gods own chosen scholars on earth in Jesus day were blind as bats living in darkness. They hated their own Messiah.

 

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Yet one of your own governing body said Jesus was in the Garden of Eden. Explain that to me.

What are you talking about?

 

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Gods son, Gods appointed king, The Messiah--You see at John 17:3-Jesus was sent by THE ONLY TRUE GOD, that means the ONLY TRUE GOD did not come down here.

You believe Jesus was Michael. Angels don't worship another angel, only God.

 

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Read verse 8 in any translation. Your fake bible says that "God is your throne". Your fakes deliberately altered Scripture. God isn't a throne. God has a throne, but because the Scripture says Jesus is God, your cult changed Scripture. I would't want to be in their shoes.

Verse 9 shows Jesus has a God. Fact=God does not have a God.

 

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What Scripture says Jesus is Michael.

1Thess 4:16--Please tell us all, is this Jesus' voice or did Michael loan him his voice?

 

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Actually, He was one of us, which means He was a little lower than the angels, just like us. Please do try to keep up, because details like that matter.

There is only 1 detail to prove truth--John 17:3--The one who sent Jesus= Father=THE ONLY TRUE GOD. We all must choose who we believe.

 

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Verse 9 shows Jesus has a God. Fact=God does not have a God.

Yes, God has a God. Too many verses say that to deny it by saying that they are simply mistranslations. Your "mistranslations" are simply Scriptures you don't agree with. That's some primitive scholarship on your part.

 

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Jesus resurrected himself. He did that all by himself.

God resurrected Jesus. Acts 2:24

 

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You believe Jesus was Michael. Angels don't worship another angel, only God.

The word worship is error. Obeisance is the correct usage.

 

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1Thess 4:16--Please tell us all, is this Jesus' voice or did Michael loan him his voice?

So Jesus is Michael and Gabriel. How can Jesus be two angels? You're confused again.

 

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God resurrected Jesus. Acts 2:24

John 2:19. You're confused again.