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Progressive Propaganda: The Voter Fraud Edition

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The left has come up with some of the most absurd excuses in the world not to have clean, proper elections. From racists stuff like "black people don't have ID and can't figure out how to get it" to "there is no voter fraud anyway", to "it will discourage voting". All of it has been proven to be a lie.

When a Democrat in New Hampshire supported voter laws, voter turnout was better than the national average.
Gardner backed a New Hampshire voter ID law that passed in 2011, despite warnings that it would decrease voter turnout. He said New Hampshire’s voter turnout in the following year’s presidential election was 14.2 percentage points higher than the national average, and that in 2016, New Hampshire’s general election turnout was 14.5 percentage points higher than the national average.

Why This Democrat Wants to Restore Confidence in Voting Integrity
 

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"Progressives" you say?

Can do.




Kinda belongs in "History" though doncha think?
 

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The Democratic Party will never willingly give up the only leverage they have for winning elections. They won't loosen that death grip on voter fraud, it'll have to be pried from their cold dead hands (so to speak).
 

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There are liberal cities now that ENCOURAGE and allow illegals to vote.
These asshats aren't even trying to hide their contempt for our country.

You mean those suburbs that don't require citizenship to vote in local questions like when the trash is picked up?

Yeah that's despicable.
 

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There are liberal cities now that ENCOURAGE and allow illegals to vote.
These asshats aren't even trying to hide their contempt for our country.

You mean those suburbs that don't require citizenship to vote in local questions like when the trash is picked up?

Yeah that's despicable.
It is. The ballot question should be when do you want your ICE pick up.
 
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The "can't afford ID" argument is absolute bullshit.

It's funny how Obama makes people buy healthcare or pay a fine...then Progs claim some of those people can't afford an ID.

It's a lie. Where are these examples of people being disenfranchised because they can't afford an ID.

Let's parade them all on MSNBC.
 
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Up to five million Russians voted for Trump in the last election
 

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The only voter fraud that has been found is in republican voters.

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19 AMAZING (and scary) FACTS ABOUT VOTING IN THE UNITED STATES

Did you know....

1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.

8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.

10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.

11. Diebold is based in Ohio.

12. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as senior managers and developers to help write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states.

13. Jeff Dean, Diebold's Senior Vice-President and senior programmer on Diebold's central compiler code, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree.

14. Diebold Senior Vice-President Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years.

15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio.

16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it!

17. 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail.

18. ALL -- not some -- but ALL the voting machine errors detected and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.

19. Other serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always favoring Bush --have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation.
 

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The only voter fraud that has been found is in republican voters.

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19 AMAZING (and scary) FACTS ABOUT VOTING IN THE UNITED STATES

Did you know....

1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.

8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.

10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.

11. Diebold is based in Ohio.

12. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as senior managers and developers to help write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states.

13. Jeff Dean, Diebold's Senior Vice-President and senior programmer on Diebold's central compiler code, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree.

14. Diebold Senior Vice-President Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years.

15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio.

16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it!

17. 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail.

18. ALL -- not some -- but ALL the voting machine errors detected and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.

19. Other serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always favoring Bush --have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation.
Your level of paranoia is scary. I will agree that digital voting needs paper proof tho
 
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The left has come up with some of the most absurd excuses in the world not to have clean, proper elections. From racists stuff like "black people don't have ID and can't figure out how to get it" to "there is no voter fraud anyway", to "it will discourage voting". All of it has been proven to be a lie.

When a Democrat in New Hampshire supported voter laws, voter turnout was better than the national average.
Gardner backed a New Hampshire voter ID law that passed in 2011, despite warnings that it would decrease voter turnout. He said New Hampshire’s voter turnout in the following year’s presidential election was 14.2 percentage points higher than the national average, and that in 2016, New Hampshire’s general election turnout was 14.5 percentage points higher than the national average.

Why This Democrat Wants to Restore Confidence in Voting Integrity
Better be careful, Gramps. One of those lurking leftist liberal moderators might move this post to the History Forum... :)
 

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OP and I are in total agreement.

Voter fraud is a huge problem and should be addressed at all levels.
 

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Reconciling voter roles to confirm the voters are still breathing would be a good place to start.
 

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Up to five million Russians voted for Trump in the last election

A lot of postings on this thread making a lot of silly claims. A good general rule of thumb- if there is no supporting link/documentation for the claim, you can either assume the poster is a liar or too lazy to add a link. In some cases, the poster is both lazy and a liar.
 

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Up to five million Russians voted for Trump in the last election

A lot of postings on this thread making a lot of silly claims. A good general rule of thumb- if there is no supporting link/documentation for the claim, you can either assume the poster is a liar or too lazy to add a link. In some cases, the poster is both lazy and a liar.

I am entirely confident that up to five million Russians voted for Trump

Care to bet?
 

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Apply for a New California Identification Card | DMV.org

Read the actual rules for getting a California ID.

I'd like to see all the US citizens incapable of accomplishing these Herculean tasks.

Which of these rules is voter suppression?
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How to Get a California State ID:

  • Visit your local California DMV.
  • Complete a Driver License or Identification Card Application (Form DL 44).
  • Provide proofs of your ID, SSN, birth date, and residency.
  • Pay the $29 identification card fee.
For more details on how to get a California ID card, please see below.


Apply for an ID Card in California
You can apply for a California identification card at any age.

The California DMV issues the following identification cards:

  • A regular ID card.
  • A senior citizen ID card for residents over 62 years old.
To apply for an ID card you must visit a California Department of Motor Vehicles(DMV) office in person to:

  • Complete a Driver License or Identification Card Application (Form DL 44). This form is not available online as it requires your original signature.
  • Give your thumbprint.
  • Have your picture taken.
If you wish to complete the application form before your visit to the CA DMV, you can call the DMV's automated telephone system at (800) 777-0133 to have the form mailed to you.

You will also need:

  • Your Social Security number. If you are ineligible for a SSN but are legally present in the U.S., you can still apply for a CA ID card.
  • An original or certified copy of a document proving your date of birth or legal presence, such as your:
  • An original or certified copy of a document proving your name if you've had a name change, such as your:
    • Marriage certificate.
    • Name change document showing both your original and new name.
    • Adoption papers.
  • To provide 2 documents proving your California residency, which could include:
    • Home utility bills.
    • Title or deed to your residence/property.
    • Pay stub from your employer.
For a complete list of acceptable documents, visit the CA DMV website.


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California ID Card Fees
It will cost you $29 for a:

  • Original California ID.
  • CA ID card renewal.
  • Replacement CA ID card (for a lost or stolen card or a name change).
This ID Card valid for 6 years.

There is no cost:

  • For a senior citizen card if you're 62 years old or older. This card is valid for 10 years.
  • To change your address.
  • To exchange your driver's license for a CA ID card if you're no longer able to drive due to a physical or mental condition. Contact your local CA DMV office for more information.
Reduced Fee CA ID Card
If you meet income requirements from a government or public assistance program, you may be eligible to receive a CA ID for a reduced fee of $8.

You will need to obtain a Verification for Reduced Fee Identification Card form (Form DL 937) from the government or from a non-profit agency giving you assistance, and bring the completed form with you to the CA DMV when you apply for your CA ID card.


Renew Your California ID Card
Your California ID card is valid for:

  • 6 years for a regular ID card.
  • 10 years for a senior citizen ID card.
You can renew your CA identification card online, by mail, or in person at a CA DMV office.

Renew Online

To renew your CA ID card online, you must have:

  • A Renewal By Mail Notice from the California DMV.
  • A verified SSN on DMV record.
  • A valid credit card or bank account for payment.
  • The same address and name; you must not be changing any details on your CA ID card.
Visit the California DMV website to renew you CA ID card online.

Renew by Mail
You may be eligible to renew your CA ID card by mail if:

  • Your CA ID card has not been expired for more than 1 year
  • You are not changing or correcting the name on your CA ID card.
  • You renewed your last ID cards or your senior ID card in person.
To renew your California ID card by mail, send a completed California Identification Card Renewal By Mail Eligibility Information form (Form DL 410 FO) and check or money order payable to “DMV" to the CA Department of Motor Vehicles address as specified on the form.

Renew in Person
To renew your California ID card in person, you will need to visit a CA DMV office and:

  • Complete a Driver License or Identification Card Application (Form DL 44).
  • Give your thumb print.
  • Have your picture taken.
  • Pay the $29 renewal fee, if you're under 62 years old.
You will receive your new CA identification card in the mail within 60 days. If your ID card hasn't arrived after 60 days, call the CA DMV at (800) 777-0133 to check the status of your application. You will need to have your receipt number or old CA ID card.

Replace Your CA ID Card
If your CA ID card is lost or stolen, you can apply for a replacement at a California DMV office. You cannot order a replacement online, by mail or by phone.

You will need to:

  • Complete a Driver License or Identification Card Application (Form DL 44).
  • Give your thumbprint.
  • Have your picture taken.
  • Pay a $29 replacement fee, if you're under 62 years old.
You will not need to bring in a birth date or legal presence document.

Click here for more details on duplicate or replacement ID cards in California.

Changing Your CA ID Card Information
Change Your Name
Before you change your name on your California ID card you will need to change your name with the Social Security Administration. If the SSA's records do not match your requested name change with the CA DMV, the CA DMV will send you a Request for Verification of Information letter.

To change your name on your CA ID card you will need to go to a California DMV office in person to:

  • Fill out a Driver License or Identification Card Application (Form DL 44).
  • Give your thumbprint.
  • Have your picture taken
  • Pay the $29 fee, if you're under 62 years old.
You will also need to prove your name change to the CA DMV by providing an original or certified copy of either a:

  • Birth date or legal presence document (e.g. U.S. birth certificate, passport, or citizenship certificate).
  • True full name document (e.g. adoption papers, name change document showing both your new and old name, or marriage certificate).
The DMV provides full lists of birth date or legal presence documents and true full name documents.

Change Your Address
If you change your address, you must notify the CA DMV within 10 days of the change. You can change your address online, by mail, or in person at a CA DMV office.

Online

To change the address on your CA identification card online, you must:

  • Have a valid California ID card.
  • Have a Social Security number.
  • Not have an Army Post Office or Fleet Post Office address.
  • Not have an address outside of the U.S.
Visit the CA Department of Motor Vehicles website to change your address online, and follow all listed instructions on the portal.

By Mail

To change your address on your CA ID card by mail, download and complete the Notice of Change of Address (Form DMV 14), and send it to the address specified on the form. You can also have the form sent to you by calling the CA DMV at (800) 777-0133. The form will be mailed to you.

Once you've sent in your form, make sure you carry a small piece of paper showing your new address with your license at all times. Do not tape or staple the piece of paper to your driver's license.

In Person

To change your address on your CA identification card in person, complete the Notice of Change of Address (Form DMV 14) and take it to a California DMV office. You will receive a Change of Address Certificate card (Form DL 43) to complete and carry with your license at all times.

Forms for California ID Card
  • Driver License or Identification Card Application (Form DL 44). This form is not available online as it requires your original signature.
  • Verification for Reduced Fee Identification Card form (Form DL 937) Available your local public assistance program agency or from a non-profit agency giving you assistance.
  • California Identification Card Renewal By Mail Eligibility Information form (Form DL 410 FO)
  • Notice of Change of Address (Form DMV 14)
  • Change of Address Certificate card (Form DL 43) The DMV will give you this card once your change of address is complete. You must carry this form with your license at all times.
Forms
California Driver License Renewal by Mail Eligibility Information - DL 410 FO
Use this form to determine your eligibility for mail-in renewal AND renew your California driver's license by mail (if eligible).

Notice of Change of Address - DMV 14
Notifies the California DMV of your new address AND can be used to update your driver's license, registration and tags, and disability parking placards.
 

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Up to five million Russians voted for Trump in the last election

A lot of postings on this thread making a lot of silly claims. A good general rule of thumb- if there is no supporting link/documentation for the claim, you can either assume the poster is a liar or too lazy to add a link. In some cases, the poster is both lazy and a liar.

I am entirely confident that up to five million Russians voted for Trump

Care to bet?

And they did it while dancing on rooftops!

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