Pro-Woman

[Thunderbird]

The world has over 7 billion people. We could use less. BTW, the population is increasing, so we are not going to have a people shortage anytime soon. Our future of too many people is quite secure.

Not really.

Overpopulation is a myth

 

[Thunderbird]

what a load of unsubstantiated bollocks.The facts are that in the 30+ years of abortion in the US and 40+ years of abortion in the UK there has not been one scientific report that confirms psychological damage as a result of an abortion.

No.

Court Orders Planned Parenthood: Inform Women of Abortion-Suicide Link

Women’s Suicide Rates Highest After Abortion: New Study

Abortion and Clinical Depression Linked in Major Study

Any woman who is coerced into anything by a man is a twerp.

Now blaming women who are victimized.

 

[koshergrl]

The medical community recognizes that most women who suffer through abortions have some degree of ptsd associated with it.

But hey, progressives don't think those women matter, so it's okay.

 

[I.P.Freely]

what a load of unsubstantiated bollocks.The facts are that in the 30+ years of abortion in the US and 40+ years of abortion in the UK there has not been one scientific report that confirms psychological damage as a result of an abortion.

No.

Court Orders Planned Parenthood: Inform Women of Abortion-Suicide Link

Women’s Suicide Rates Highest After Abortion: New Study

Abortion and Clinical Depression Linked in Major Study

Any woman who is coerced into anything by a man is a twerp.

Now blaming women who are victimized.

absolute bollocks your links are the usual non-peer reviewed rubbish that has no provable empirical content.Read this and stop embarrassing yourself and your gender you cretinous pule.
Mental health after abortion - Health news - NHS Choices

 

[koshergrl]

The British Medical Journal isn't peer-reviewed?

Reardon DC, Cougle JR. Depression and unintended pregnancy in the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth: a cohort study British Medical Journal, 324: 151-152. Full text available at www.bmj.com.
Russo NF, Zierk K. Abortion, childbearing, and women’s well-being. Professional Psychology: Research and Practice, 1992; 23: 269-280.


So much for your moronic sputterings.

 

[koshergrl]

Other sources:

Tischler C. Adolescent suicide attempts following elective abortion. Pediatrics, 1981; 68(5): 670- 671.
Morgan CM, Evans M, Peter JR, Currie C. Mental health may deteriorate as a direct effect of induced abortion. British Medical Journal, 1997; 314: 902.
Reardon DC, Ney, PG. Abortion and subsequent substance abuse. American Journal Drug Alcohol Abuse, 2000; 26(1): 61-75.
Frank DA, Zuckerman BS, Amaro H, Aboagye K, Bauchner H, Cabral H, Fried L, Hingson R, Kayne H, Levenson SM, et al Cocaine use during pregnancy, prevalence and correlates, Pediatrics, 1988 Dec; 82(6): 888-95.
Amaro H, Zuckerman B, Cabral H. Drug use among adolescent mothers: profile of risk. Pediatrics, 1989 Jul;84(1):144-51.
Wilsnack RW, Wilsnack SC, Klassen AD. Women’s drinking and drinking problems: Patterns from a 1981 national survey. American Journal Public Health, 1984; 74: 1231-1238.
Klassen, A, Wilsnack S. Sexual experience and drinking among women in a U.S. national survey. Archives Sexual. Behavior, 1986; 15(5): 363.

 

[I.P.Freely]

The British Medical Journal isn't peer-reviewed?

Reardon DC, Cougle JR. Depression and unintended pregnancy in the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth: a cohort study British Medical Journal, 324: 151-152. Full text available at www.bmj.com.
Russo NF, Zierk K. Abortion, childbearing, and women’s well-being. Professional Psychology: Research and Practice, 1992; 23: 269-280.


So much for your moronic sputterings.

cretin the BMJ is a journal, peer reviewing of submitted research is constant and causes retractions, this is a current example BBC News - Statins: BMJ investigates claims over side effects

I will PM you my password so you can search the archives for the piece of dross
http://www.bmj.com/content/337/bmj.a2902

 

[I.P.Freely]

Other sources:

Tischler C. Adolescent suicide attempts following elective abortion. Pediatrics, 1981; 68(5): 670- 671.
Morgan CM, Evans M, Peter JR, Currie C. Mental health may deteriorate as a direct effect of induced abortion. British Medical Journal, 1997; 314: 902.
Reardon DC, Ney, PG. Abortion and subsequent substance abuse. American Journal Drug Alcohol Abuse, 2000; 26(1): 61-75.
Frank DA, Zuckerman BS, Amaro H, Aboagye K, Bauchner H, Cabral H, Fried L, Hingson R, Kayne H, Levenson SM, et al Cocaine use during pregnancy, prevalence and correlates, Pediatrics, 1988 Dec; 82(6): 888-95.
Amaro H, Zuckerman B, Cabral H. Drug use among adolescent mothers: profile of risk. Pediatrics, 1989 Jul;84(1):144-51.
Wilsnack RW, Wilsnack SC, Klassen AD. Women’s drinking and drinking problems: Patterns from a 1981 national survey. American Journal Public Health, 1984; 74: 1231-1238.
Klassen, A, Wilsnack S. Sexual experience and drinking among women in a U.S. national survey. Archives Sexual. Behavior, 1986; 15(5): 363.

read this Pleb and try to understand it.
Suicidal mothers

 

[koshergrl]

So none of those studies were peer reviewed?

Yeah get lost, loser, lol.

 

[I.P.Freely]

So none of those studies were peer reviewed?

Yeah get lost, loser, lol.

did you read this dreck Abortion does not cause mental health problems, says large review | BMJ

 

[koshergrl]

Nope.

You're an idiot and a liar. The studies were peer reviewed, so why on earth would I do anything you suggest?

 

[Thunderbird]

absolute bollocks your links are the usual non-peer reviewed rubbish that has no provable empirical content.

You are quite the pinhead aren't you. lol If you ever learn to read you'll notice lots of carefully researched reports and peer reviewed studies in the links I provided.

Examples:

A 1995 study by A.C. Gilchrist in the British Journal of Psychiatry found that in women with no history of psychiatric illness, the rate of deliberate self-harm was 70 percent higher after abortion than after childbirth.

A 1996 study in Finland by pro-choice researcher Mika Gissler in the British Medical Journal found that the suicide rate was nearly six times greater among women who aborted than among women who gave birth.

A 2002 record-linkage study of California Medicaid patients in the Southern Medical Journal, which controlled for prior mental illness, found that suicide risk was 154 percent higher among women who aborted than among those who delivered.

A March 2004 report from the National Institutes of Health revealed that suicide is now the third leading cause of death among America’s young people. In fact, for teen girls and young women, the suicide rate has tripled over the past 25 years.

One study published in August 2003 edition of the British Medical Journal found that women who had abortions were seven times more likely to commit suicide than women who gave birth.

Do you feel stupid yet?

Read this and stop embarrassing yourself and your gender you cretinous pule.

Leprous scabs like you are always ready to screech feeble justifications for an industry that targets women, minorities, and the handicapped for mass murder.

 

[Thunderbird]

read this Pleb and try to understand it.
Suicidal mothers

What a fathead! lol Your own link states that abortion is a risk factor!

From your own link: The available data informs health policy makers with a typical profile to screen women at high risk of suicide during pregnancy. Those women who have a current or past history of psychiatric disorders, are young, unmarried, unemployed, have incurred an unplanned pregnancy (eventually terminated with an induced abortion), are addicted to illicit drugs and/or alcohol, lack effective psychosocial support, have suffered from episodes of sexual or physical violence are particularly vulnerable.

Try to understand that. lol

 

[Disir]

what's even more lol or not really lol at all is if we remove that and we have this:

Those women who have a current or past history of psychiatric disorders,
are young, unmarried, unemployed, are addicted to illicit drugs and/or alcohol, lack effective psychosocial support, have suffered from episodes of sexual or physical violence are particularly vulnerable.

You stop giving a damn.

 

[koshergrl]

Yeah, that's what the majority of treatment centers, pregnancy centers and adoption agencies are run by RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS you ******* idiot.

See progressives want to kill these women and children because they don't want to be responsible for them. NOT because they care about them.

Then they turn around and pretend we're the ones who aren't caring for them.

It's a joke.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Imagine the outrage if I made a thread named, PRO-MAN?

 

[priceless]

What if abortion was illegal but women would have the option of voluntarily choosing to live in a securitized child-rearing colony where they would be provided with the means to care for their children OR if they didn't want to live in such a colony, the father could adopt the child, once born, and raise it in the colony. Crucially, such colonies would be for males or females but not both together. This way people could focus on raising their children and pursuing education and/or work without the distraction of dating and marriage.

Would this be enough of an incentive to avoid illegal abortion or would people still seek out illegal abortions to avoid living in such sex-segregated welfare colonies?

 

[mamooth]

Yeah, that's what the majority of treatment centers, pregnancy centers and adoption agencies are run by RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS you ******* idiot.

So you're proud of having baby-sellers on your side? Most people would consider selling humans to be barbaric.

 

[Disir]

Yeah, that's what the majority of treatment centers, pregnancy centers and adoption agencies are run by RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS you ******* idiot.

See progressives want to kill these women and children because they don't want to be responsible for them. NOT because they care about them.

Then they turn around and pretend we're the ones who aren't caring for them.

It's a joke.

It is a joke. Those faith based organizations have a low success rate. But, they sure do enjoy tax money thanks to Prez Bush, hey?

 

[Disir]

What if abortion was illegal but women would have the option of voluntarily choosing to live in a securitized child-rearing colony where they would be provided with the means to care for their children OR if they didn't want to live in such a colony, the father could adopt the child, once born, and raise it in the colony. Crucially, such colonies would be for males or females but not both together. This way people could focus on raising their children and pursuing education and/or work without the distraction of dating and marriage.

Would this be enough of an incentive to avoid illegal abortion or would people still seek out illegal abortions to avoid living in such sex-segregated welfare colonies?

No. I don't think placing people in colonies and dictating what they can and can't do is appropriate. Ever. Get pregnant win a vacation at a concentration camp.