Pro Union Conservatives sink Prop A in Missouri.

A strong pillar of the Free Trade Ideology was that Unions were part of the problem that made our industries unable to compete.


And we have seen unions greatly weakened as part of the Free Traders attempt to make America more competitive.


It failed.


Now we have, as a nation reached the conclusion that our lack of competitiveness was from our trading partners cheating.



That means that the primary underlying REASON to be anti-Union, is no longer valid.
 
A free country means free to organize. Union labor is the one subject where I stray from conservatives.
Not so much in public sector unions, though. The government, ie, taxpayers, is their union imo.
 
A strong pillar of the Free Trade Ideology was that Unions were part of the problem that made our industries unable to compete.


And we have seen unions greatly weakened as part of the Free Traders attempt to make America more competitive.


It failed.


Now we have, as a nation reached the conclusion that our lack of competitiveness was from our trading partners cheating.



That means that the primary underlying REASON to be anti-Union, is no longer valid.
Yes, after years of Republicans waging a war on Unions, it appears they were wrong. Wages have been stagnant with the decline in unions. Are Repubs right about trade? Immigration? Or are these just scapegoats like unions were? They don't have a good record on being right....
 
A strong pillar of the Free Trade Ideology was that Unions were part of the problem that made our industries unable to compete.


And we have seen unions greatly weakened as part of the Free Traders attempt to make America more competitive.


It failed.


Now we have, as a nation reached the conclusion that our lack of competitiveness was from our trading partners cheating.



That means that the primary underlying REASON to be anti-Union, is no longer valid.
Yes, after years of Republicans waging a war on Unions, it appears they were wrong. Wages have been stagnant with the decline in unions. Are Repubs right about trade? Immigration? Or are these just scapegoats like unions were? They don't have a good record on being right....


With Unions, we can see that their decline did not result in increased competitiveness as the Free Trade Ideology suggested it should.


What similar evidence do you have that "Trade" is a scapegoat?
 
Cost of living...yep....if one makes more money living is essier. Paid vacations, sick time, and insurance are all things workers want and need. Thanks to unions. Like anything else it's cyclical. Workers will start to figure it out. The i want to work for leas while management wages rose will go by the wayside. Workers will eventually tell them to stick it and rightfully so.
 
A strong pillar of the Free Trade Ideology was that Unions were part of the problem that made our industries unable to compete.


And we have seen unions greatly weakened as part of the Free Traders attempt to make America more competitive.


It failed.


Now we have, as a nation reached the conclusion that our lack of competitiveness was from our trading partners cheating.



That means that the primary underlying REASON to be anti-Union, is no longer valid.
Yes, after years of Republicans waging a war on Unions, it appears they were wrong. Wages have been stagnant with the decline in unions. Are Repubs right about trade? Immigration? Or are these just scapegoats like unions were? They don't have a good record on being right....


With Unions, we can see that their decline did not result in increased competitiveness as the Free Trade Ideology suggested it should.


What similar evidence do you have that "Trade" is a scapegoat?
Well every time tariffs have been tried it leads to lost jobs. I don't think there is strong evidence that free trade is the problem.
 
A strong pillar of the Free Trade Ideology was that Unions were part of the problem that made our industries unable to compete.


And we have seen unions greatly weakened as part of the Free Traders attempt to make America more competitive.


It failed.


Now we have, as a nation reached the conclusion that our lack of competitiveness was from our trading partners cheating.



That means that the primary underlying REASON to be anti-Union, is no longer valid.
Yes, after years of Republicans waging a war on Unions, it appears they were wrong. Wages have been stagnant with the decline in unions. Are Repubs right about trade? Immigration? Or are these just scapegoats like unions were? They don't have a good record on being right....


With Unions, we can see that their decline did not result in increased competitiveness as the Free Trade Ideology suggested it should.


What similar evidence do you have that "Trade" is a scapegoat?
Well every time tariffs have been tried it leads to lost jobs. I don't think there is strong evidence that free trade is the problem.


With Unions, we saw them decline and the results were not what we expected.


What historical examples do you have of tariffs leading to lost jobs?
 
A strong pillar of the Free Trade Ideology was that Unions were part of the problem that made our industries unable to compete.


And we have seen unions greatly weakened as part of the Free Traders attempt to make America more competitive.


It failed.


Now we have, as a nation reached the conclusion that our lack of competitiveness was from our trading partners cheating.



That means that the primary underlying REASON to be anti-Union, is no longer valid.
Yes, after years of Republicans waging a war on Unions, it appears they were wrong. Wages have been stagnant with the decline in unions. Are Repubs right about trade? Immigration? Or are these just scapegoats like unions were? They don't have a good record on being right....


With Unions, we can see that their decline did not result in increased competitiveness as the Free Trade Ideology suggested it should.


What similar evidence do you have that "Trade" is a scapegoat?
Well every time tariffs have been tried it leads to lost jobs. I don't think there is strong evidence that free trade is the problem.


With Unions, we saw them decline and the results were not what we expected.


What historical examples do you have of tariffs leading to lost jobs?
Lessons from the 2002 Bush Steel Tariffs - Tax Foundation
The effects of higher steel prices, largely a result of the steel tariffs, led to a loss of nearly 200,000 jobs in the steel-consuming sector, a loss larger than the total employment of 187,500 in the steel-producing sector at the time. The study warns:
 
A strong pillar of the Free Trade Ideology was that Unions were part of the problem that made our industries unable to compete.


And we have seen unions greatly weakened as part of the Free Traders attempt to make America more competitive.


It failed.


Now we have, as a nation reached the conclusion that our lack of competitiveness was from our trading partners cheating.



That means that the primary underlying REASON to be anti-Union, is no longer valid.
Yes, after years of Republicans waging a war on Unions, it appears they were wrong. Wages have been stagnant with the decline in unions. Are Repubs right about trade? Immigration? Or are these just scapegoats like unions were? They don't have a good record on being right....


With Unions, we can see that their decline did not result in increased competitiveness as the Free Trade Ideology suggested it should.


What similar evidence do you have that "Trade" is a scapegoat?
Well every time tariffs have been tried it leads to lost jobs. I don't think there is strong evidence that free trade is the problem.


With Unions, we saw them decline and the results were not what we expected.


What historical examples do you have of tariffs leading to lost jobs?
Lessons from the 2002 Bush Steel Tariffs - Tax Foundation
The effects of higher steel prices, largely a result of the steel tariffs, led to a loss of nearly 200,000 jobs in the steel-consuming sector, a loss larger than the total employment of 187,500 in the steel-producing sector at the time. The study warns:


Seems like a very small and isolated example.

What about the massive growth of the American economy during the period of time post Civil War to WWI?
 
Yes, after years of Republicans waging a war on Unions, it appears they were wrong. Wages have been stagnant with the decline in unions. Are Repubs right about trade? Immigration? Or are these just scapegoats like unions were? They don't have a good record on being right....


With Unions, we can see that their decline did not result in increased competitiveness as the Free Trade Ideology suggested it should.


What similar evidence do you have that "Trade" is a scapegoat?
Well every time tariffs have been tried it leads to lost jobs. I don't think there is strong evidence that free trade is the problem.


With Unions, we saw them decline and the results were not what we expected.


What historical examples do you have of tariffs leading to lost jobs?
Lessons from the 2002 Bush Steel Tariffs - Tax Foundation
The effects of higher steel prices, largely a result of the steel tariffs, led to a loss of nearly 200,000 jobs in the steel-consuming sector, a loss larger than the total employment of 187,500 in the steel-producing sector at the time. The study warns:


Seems like a very small and isolated example.

What about the massive growth of the American economy during the period of time post Civil War to WWI?
Every example is the same story. Some even blame tariffs on the great depression.
 
Private sector or public sector unions? The difference might not seem like much but public sector unions can turn a progressive city into a chaotic mess if the voters aren't paying attention.
Chicago?
 
I voted Trump.
And I voted NO for Right To Work.
And I wasn't the only one.

Missouri Voters Reject Anti-Union Law in a Victory for Labor


Said the same thing last night...

"Looks like around 700,000 Republicans and 550,000 Democrats voted in our state primaries, and Right-to-work is going down 66% to 34%...that's a truckload of pro-union Republicans.

I keep telling you guys this is the prevailing attitude among working class Republicans. Trump is doing his level best to move the needle on this issue...to bring the blue collar Unions into the fold. Please give the Union issue a second look before spouting the rote party line."

election night results in Michigan, Ohio & 3 other states thread
 
With Unions, we can see that their decline did not result in increased competitiveness as the Free Trade Ideology suggested it should.


What similar evidence do you have that "Trade" is a scapegoat?
Well every time tariffs have been tried it leads to lost jobs. I don't think there is strong evidence that free trade is the problem.


With Unions, we saw them decline and the results were not what we expected.


What historical examples do you have of tariffs leading to lost jobs?
Lessons from the 2002 Bush Steel Tariffs - Tax Foundation
The effects of higher steel prices, largely a result of the steel tariffs, led to a loss of nearly 200,000 jobs in the steel-consuming sector, a loss larger than the total employment of 187,500 in the steel-producing sector at the time. The study warns:


Seems like a very small and isolated example.

What about the massive growth of the American economy during the period of time post Civil War to WWI?
Every example is the same story. Some even blame tariffs on the great depression.



What about the massive growth of the American economy during the period of the post Civil War to WWI?
 
The biggest problem we have is wage stagination . It’s all party of the gop war on the working man. That’s ehy the middle class is disappearing.
 
Well every time tariffs have been tried it leads to lost jobs. I don't think there is strong evidence that free trade is the problem.


With Unions, we saw them decline and the results were not what we expected.


What historical examples do you have of tariffs leading to lost jobs?
Lessons from the 2002 Bush Steel Tariffs - Tax Foundation
The effects of higher steel prices, largely a result of the steel tariffs, led to a loss of nearly 200,000 jobs in the steel-consuming sector, a loss larger than the total employment of 187,500 in the steel-producing sector at the time. The study warns:


Seems like a very small and isolated example.

What about the massive growth of the American economy during the period of time post Civil War to WWI?
Every example is the same story. Some even blame tariffs on the great depression.



What about the massive growth of the American economy during the period of the post Civil War to WWI?
What about it? You have some facts you wish to share?
 
Pro union, they work for the worker, that said yes they got to big & to powerful just like our congress, to much power corrupts
 

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