pro or contra Israel today?

[JoeB131]

The time for "talk" is over.

Now is a time for war... bloody war... existential war... war to the hilt... no prisoners... no mercy.

And we will back Israel.

Awesome, so you are going to go over and sign up for the IDF, then?

 

[Kondor3]

Awesome, so you are going to go over and sign up for the IDF, then?

Nope... way too old... but I support their efforts in this vein... fully... phukk Hamas... and phukk their apologists...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Are you retarded? Do you have a learning disability we should know about?

After Tet, Conckrite got on TV and said the government was lying to us. After Tet, no one was going along with the draft anymore, demonstrations sprouted up across the country, and politicians on both sides focused on how to extricate themselves from the Quagmire.

Tet accomplished nothing tactically, but strategically, it was the beginning of the end of American involvement.


No, but Al Qaeda WERE Arabs. Osama was an Arab. Zawahiri was an Arab. Khalid Sheik Mohammed is an Arab.

Who? Walter Conkrite was lying to the American people simply because he didn't support the war. Tet was a disaster for the Viet Cong. He simply lied.

That is not what you said. You said, "So we encouraged thousands of young Arab men". The fighters were not Al Queda. They were Taliban.

Just FYI, I have a history degree and have lived more and forgotten more history than you and your fellow dipshits will ever know. I also taught the ******* subject for 21 years!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What were the Russians doing in Afghanistan, idiot? Is this also their homeland, like Palestine for the Jews?

Wait a minute! Idiots like you and JoeB should not be arguing! You're both ignorant hicks!

 

[AZrailwhale]

Here's the problem with that argument. The ONLY Reason why the British were able to take Palestine was because the Arabs listened to TS Lawrence and revolted against the Ottomans.



That would make the Zionist Entity a complete international pariah.

And for that they were rewarded with the entire Middle East excluding the tiny area of Israel. Even that was split, giving the Arabs the much larger area called Jordan today and the Jews the much smaller area called Israel. The Arabs weren't even satisfied with that, but immediately tried to exterminate the Jews as soon as the UN recognized Israel as a country. The Brits were complicit in that attempt since they did everything possible to disarm the Jews before partition and turned over all their military equipment to the Arabs. They even trained and equipped Arab units like the Arab Legion to fight the Jews.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Here's the problem with that argument. The ONLY Reason why the British were able to take Palestine was because the Arabs listened to TS Lawrence and revolted against the Ottomans.



That would make the Zionist Entity a complete international pariah.

What do they have to lose? They already are thanks to people like you.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Yeah, literally dozens of those Arabs were Palestinians.
The rest of the Arabs actually got territory and nations of their own.
The only ones too stupid to act civilized are the ones still killing
Jewish civilians today.

The Palestinians DID get their own country, it's called Jordan.

 

[Kondor3]

And for that they were rewarded with the entire Middle East excluding the tiny area of Israel. Even that was split, giving the Arabs the much larger area called Jordan today and the Jews the much smaller area called Israel. The Arabs weren't even satisfied with that, but immediately tried to exterminate the Jews as soon as the UN recognized Israel as a country. The Brits were complicit in that attempt since they did everything possible to disarm the Jews before partition and turned over all their military equipment to the Arabs. They even trained and equipped Arab units like the Arab Legion to fight the Jews.

Yep. This is what the League of Nations tried to do in 1922 and beyond, a vision based on the Balfour Declaration, and pretty much what the British tried to facilitate in the late 1940s before they pulled out of Palestine altogether at the expiration of the Mandate...

 

[AZrailwhale]

One Man's Terrorist is Another Man's Freedom Fighter.

When Osama Bin Laden was killing Russians in Afghanistan, Ronald Reagan called him a "Freedom Fighter". Those dirty stinking Commies might teach girls how to read or something.

When he turned about and started blowing up Americans, the guy became a "terrorist".

That line is absolute bullshit. Terrorists kill innocent civilians to advance a political narrative. NO matter what side they are on they are still terrorists. The Irgun were terrorists when they bombed the British Headquarters in the King David Hotel. The IRA were terrorists when they bombed British civilian targets, they were freedom fighters when they fought the British Army openly.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Here's the problem with that argument. The ONLY Reason why the British were able to take Palestine was because the Arabs listened to TS Lawrence and revolted against the Ottomans.



That would make the Zionist Entity a complete international pariah.

Your lack of knowledge is showing again. It was T. S. Lawrence, and several other countries had a hand in it also.

 

[AZrailwhale]

It will make the Zionist Entity even more of an international pariah than it already is.



After Arabs revolted against the Ottomans... Before that, the British were flailing helplessly with half ass invasions using Indians who didn't want to be there.



As they should have. If the British said, "Hey, we want you to revolt against the Ottomans so we can resettle your land with the Jews of Europe", they'd have probably stayed home in 1917.



So, um, you think the Jews should engage in Genocide?
I mean it might be more honest, and I won't have to listen to anymore whining about what Hitler did 80 years ago.
It will still fail, of course, there are 8 million Palestinians in Palestine and outside of it.

The British didn't resettle the land with Jews, in the tween-war years, the Jews BOUGHT the land from the Arab landowners who then evicted the squatters living there who often didn't even know who owned the land. Post WWII the Brits did everything within their power to bar Jews from moving to what would become Israel. All the ones they caught were confined in concentration camps on Cypress.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Um, no, Nixon did that at the Paris Conference, where he knew damned well he was selling the Saigon Quislings under the bus.

wrong the dems cut off the south in 74 and refused to honor our defense treaty in 75. The north was probing and when they realized the US would not honor the treaty they attacked with their whole army,

 

[AZrailwhale]

You really need to find a dictionary. You are confused about basic word definitions.

He's not confused, that is his basic world-view.

 

[AZrailwhale]

These are the Palestinian children killed by Israel in 2017.

Fourteen Palestinian boys and girls under the age of 18 were shot dead by Israeli occupation forces in the West Bank and Gaza Strip during the year.
There were 21 fewer children killed than in 2016, which was the deadliest year for Palestinian children in the occupied West Bank in the past decade.

In addition to those 14 shot and killed during 2017, a child died of wounds sustained in an Israeli drone strike years earlier.

Another was killed by Israeli ordnance while grazing livestock. A baby living in temporary shelter, his family homeless as a result of Israeli bombing, died of cold exposure.

Palestinian children also died because they were unable to secure permits to leave via the Israeli-controlled Erez checkpoint for medical treatment unavailable in the besieged Gaza Strip.

Emergency room doctors were unable to resuscitate a seriously ill 9-year-old girl in the West Bank after Israeli soldiers denied her family passage at a checkpoint; a trip that normally would take 15 minutes took her family 90 minutes after they were forced to detour and go through a different checkpoint.

No Israeli children were killed by Palestinians during the year. An Israeli woman wounded during a bus stop bombing in 2011, when she was 14, and who had never regained consciousness, died of her injures in 2017.
These are the Palestinian children Israel killed in 2017

Snipers ordered to shoot children, Israeli general confirms

22 April 2018
An Israeli general has confirmed that when snipers stationed along Israel’s boundary with Gaza shoot at children, they are doing so deliberately, under clear and specific orders.

In a radio interview, Brigadier-General (Reserve) Zvika Fogel describes how a sniper identifies the “small body” of a child and is given authorization to shoot.

Fogel’s statements could be used as evidence of intent if Israeli leaders are ever tried for war crimes at the International Criminal Court.

On Friday, an Israeli sniper shot dead 14-year-old Muhammad Ibrahim Ayyoub.

The boy, shot in the head east of Jabaliya, was the fourth child among the more than 30 Palestinians killed during the Great March of Return rallies that began in Gaza on 30 March.

More than 1,600 other Palestinians have been shot with live ammunition that has caused what doctors are calling “horrific injuries” likely to leave many of them with permanent disabilities.

Our initial investigation confirms Israeli forces killed 14-year-old Mahmoud Ibrahim Ayoub in Gaza today around 4:30 pm local time. He sustained a gunshot wound to the head & was later pronounced dead at Shifa hospital. #GazaReturnMarch pic.twitter.com/CwJn8xqhPf

Snipers ordered to shoot children, Israeli general confirms

UN envoy tells ‘outrageous’ Israel to stop shooting children in Gaza

20 April 2018, 10:57 pm
Palestinians say four killed, including a 15-year-old boy; Israel urges UN to condemn Hamas for ‘despicable exploitation of women and children’

The United Nations envoy to the region on Friday slammed Israel’s response to the Gaza protests as “outrageous” and called on the IDF to stop shooting children after four Palestinians, including a 15-year-old boy, were killed during clashes along the Gaza border fence.

“It is OUTRAGEOUS to shoot at children!” tweeted UN Middle East peace envoy Nickolay Mladenov.

“How does the killing of a child in #Gaza today help #peace? It doesn’t! It fuels anger and breeds more killing. #Children must be protected from #violence, not exposed to it, not killed! This tragic incident must be investigated,” he wrote.
UN envoy tells ‘outrageous’ Israel to stop shooting children in Gaza

Israeli security forces 'killed 25 Palestinian children' in three months, UNICEF says

Posted 14 May 2016, 2:52pm
Twenty-five Palestinian children were killed in the last three months of 2015 during a wave of violence, the United Nations' children's agency says.
Israel killed 25 Palestinian children in three months, UNICEF says

Murdering children is NOT God's way, now or ever
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If Hamas would spend some of the money it dedicates to attacking Israel and killing Jews to building hospitals, medical clinics, generating plants and desalinization plants it's people wouldn't have to depend on the Jews they hate so much. But if Hamas did that, it would lose power since its whole existence is based upon exterminating the Jews and invading and occupying Israel.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If Hamas would spend some of the money it dedicates to attacking Israel and killing Jews to building hospitals, medical clinics, generating plants and desalinization plants it's people wouldn't have to depend on the Jews they hate so much. But if Hamas did that, it would lose power since its whole existence is based upon exterminating the Jews and invading and occupying Israel.

Hamas cannot build much of anything because they are under a blockade due to their own stupidity. Remember a few years back when they cut off their supply of concrete because they were using it to build tunnels?

 

[sparky]

I'm getting really tired of being baited here, only to be painted 'anti-Semite'

You fools that are trying to challenge the populace , and using this method are flat out disingenuous

~S~

 

[Natural Citizen]

I'm getting really tired of being baited here, only to be painted 'anti-Semite'

You fools that are trying to challenge the populace , and using this method are flat out disingenuous

~S~

It's becoming just as empty of an arbitrarily invoked phrase as ''racist''

 

[Kondor3]

I'm getting really tired of being baited here, only to be painted 'anti-Semite'

You fools that are trying to challenge the populace , and using this method are flat out disingenuous

~S~

Phukk Hamas, and phukk ttheir apologists... time to slaughter Hamas to the last man... death to Hamas...

 

[Ringo]

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Life's a *****...but karma is a MFer.