pro or contra Israel today?

[JoeB131]

Walter Cronkite and the rest of the leftists can take credit for that.

No, the military's lies can take credit for that.

The military had insisted for years that they had the situation in South Vietnam under control. Then the VC launched a nation-wide, coordinated attack.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

No, the military's lies can take credit for that.

The military had insisted for years that they had the situation in South Vietnam under control. Then the VC launched a nation-wide, coordinated attack.

which was crushed proving they were not in control or a major factor after that. The military destroyed the Viet Cong in TET it never recovered. In 71 when we withdrew the Viet Cong were nonentity. The projection was that with US artillery support and air support the South would slowly return to normal and the North would be prevented from attacking in force. The after Nixon left the dems cut off the South from support and caused it to fall.

 

[cnm]

"Look what I found on a dead Jew!"

'I got it off him as he was stealing my water.'

 

[cnm]

Not suppressing ghettos.

They've made Gaza a ghetto. I suppose using their Warsaw experience. Pity they don't seem able to remember how that ended.

 

[cnm]

Phukk Hamas, and phukk ttheir apologists... time to slaughter Hamas to the last man... death to Hamas...

What's that, a ChickenCondor?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Bombing people from the safety of your mooched airplane is a candy ass way to fight a war.

 

[Zebra]

22 pro
11 neutral

 

[watchingfromafar]

retard we have absolute evidence that Hamas murdered hundreds of women and children and raped more.

No, you Reti do not. I on the other hand have lots of evidence of Israeli’s murdering Palestinian children.

Reti claims it has evidence but produces nothing.

Unlike you, I have the evidence.

IDF shooting Palestinian children
idf shooting children - Google Search

IDF destroying Palestinian fishing boats.
IDF destroying Palestinian fishing boats - Google Search

Illegal Israeli settlements
Illegal Israeli settlements - Google Search

Facts are facts and you, Reti have none, nata, zip, zero
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[RetiredGySgt]

No, you Reti do not. I on the other hand have lots of evidence of Israeli’s murdering Palestinian children.

Reti claims it has evidence but produces nothing.

Unlike you, I have the evidence.

IDF shooting Palestinian children
idf shooting children - Google Search

IDF destroying Palestinian fishing boats.
IDF destroying Palestinian fishing boats - Google Search

Illegal Israeli settlements
Illegal Israeli settlements - Google Search

Facts are facts and you, Reti have none, nata, zip, zero
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sure thing terrorist supporter.

 

[watchingfromafar]

sure thing terrorist supporter.

Up yours rettie

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BTW; They are NOT terrorist's, they are freedom fighters

 

[JoeB131]

which was crushed proving they were not in control or a major factor after that. The military destroyed the Viet Cong in TET it never recovered. In 71 when we withdrew the Viet Cong were nonentity. The projection was that with US artillery support and air support the South would slowly return to normal and the North would be prevented from attacking in force. The after Nixon left the dems cut off the South from support and caused it to fall.

More Americans died after Tet than before it. It's laughable to say that Tet was a decisive victory.

What caused the South to fall in a mere 55 days was that their own people didn't support it.

Nixon knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he signed the Paris Accords.

Kind of like blaming Biden for Trump selling out the Afghan quislings at Doha.

 

[watchingfromafar]

Kind of like blaming Biden for Trump selling out the Afghan quislings at Doha.

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[RetiredGySgt]

More Americans died after Tet than before it. It's laughable to say that Tet was a decisive victory.

What caused the South to fall in a mere 55 days was that their own people didn't support it.

Nixon knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he signed the Paris Accords.

Kind of like blaming Biden for Trump selling out the Afghan quislings at Doha.

no what caused it to fall was no supplies no ammo and no parts from the US, they fought for over a month outnumbered 2 to one and poorly supplied.

 

[Dissident]

​

Today, Le Figaro has published an article about reaction of French politicians to Hamas attack on Israel.

The author of the article writes that some left-wing parties refused to condemn this attack by Hamas militants, which had resulted in the death of hundreds of civilians.

At the same time, Jean-Luc Mélenchon and several his supporters including Manuel Bompard and Louis Boyard refused to call the attack a terrorist one; and the far-left parties have gone even further. This is particularly true for the Party of Indigenous people, led by Houria Bouteldja and Youssef Boussoumah who devote most of their speeches to condemning France's colonial history, as well as to supporting the Palestinian cause and denouncing Israeli policies. The Party of Indigenous people has called Hamas "our militant brotherhood".

 

[watchingfromafar]

If Israel is finally held accountable for using its military sniper teams to murder Palestinian children

If Israel is finally held accountable for destroying the Palestinian fishing industry

If Israel is finally held accountable for destroying Palestinian villages and then building illegal settlements on top of the ruins

Then and only then can I forgive Israelis, but, but, God will not and is not so forgiving

Last, but not lest they will no more be remembered

King James Bible And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel. (Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman. (Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it. (Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. (Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..The above occurred in 1947ad (Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations. (Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

King James Bible

Ezekiel 21:32
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

And so it will be done

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Um, yeah, and who do you think was organizing those donations and volunteers? The CIA.


Good thing I wasn't a toddler at the time. Now, I was a child when Vietnam was going on, but have pretty fresh memories of it. I was around for the whole stupidity of funding terrorists...er.. Freedom Fighters to sucker punch the Soviets in Afghanistan, and we all see how well that worked out.


Actually, have a bachelor's degree with continuing education in my job field. So you are wrong about everything, aren't you?

OK, you have crossed the intolerably stupid line with that. Goodbye moron!

 

[watchingfromafar]

BiBi is about to commit mass murder

Bibi has called up all his military to invade Gaza and murder everyone living there.

Do you support this murdering spree or not?

[ ] yes

[ ] no
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[watchingfromafar]

BiBi is about to commit mass murder

Bibi has called up all his military to invade Gaza and murder everyone living there.

Do you support this murdering spree or not?

[ ] yes

[ X ] no
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[JoeB131]

no what caused it to fall was no supplies no ammo and no parts from the US, they fought for over a month outnumbered 2 to one and poorly supplied.

The Myth That Congress Cut Off Funding for South Vietnam

Since partisans have turned the April 30, 1975, Communist takeover of South Vietnam into a political weapon, I’m going to spend the anniversary doing a little myth-busting.

historynewsnetwork.org

It wasn't true, but that never stopped a meme.

$700 Million

A quick, easy check of an old newspaper database shows Laird's cutoff claim to be false. In the fiscal year running from July 1, 1974, to June 30, 1975, the congressional appropriation for military aid to South Vietnam was $700 million.

Nixon had requested $1.45 billion. Congress cut his aid request, but never cut off aid.

Nixon's successor, President Gerald R. Ford, requested an additional $300 million for Saigon. Democrats saw it as an exercise in political blame-shifting. "The administration knows that the $300 million won't really do anything to prevent ultimate collapse in Vietnam," said Senator and future Vice President Walter F. Mondale, D-Mn., "and it is just trying to shift responsibility of its policy to Congress and the Democrats." Congress didn't approve the supplemental appropriation.

"South Vietnam probably can never even survive anyway," he (Nixon) said in private, but never in public. To conceal Vietnamization's failure, Nixon timed the withdrawal of U.S. forces to the 1972 election. This way, California Governor Ronald Reagan could welcome delegates to the Republican National Convention in 1972 with the perfect words to launch the President's reelection campaign: "The last American combat team is on its way home from Vietnam."

To get the North Vietnamese to accept a settlement that, on paper, guaranteed the South's right to free elections, Nixon assured them, through the Soviet Union and China, that if they waited a "decent interval" of a year or two before taking over South Vietnam, he would not intervene. The Communists accepted Nixon's settlement terms because they knew that they didn't have to abide by them and the would get a clear shot at overthrowing the South Vietnamese government if they waited approximately 18 months after Nixon withdrew the last U.S. ground forces. Nixon wanted this "decent interval" to make it look like Saigon's fall wasn't his fault.

 

[JoeB131]

OK, you have crossed the intolerably stupid line with that. Goodbye moron!

Your ignorance of what happened isn't my problem, Commander Special Ed.

Osama Bin Laden: How the U.S. helped midwife a terrorist

The relentless pursuit of Osama bin Laden changed over 10 years By John Solomon May 2, 2011 About the Author Ahmed Rashid of Pakistan is a member of the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, a project of the Center for Public Integrity. He is the Pakistan, Afghanistan and...

publicintegrity.org

Thirdly, Casey committed CIA support to a long-standing ISI initiative to recruit radical Muslims from around the world to come to Pakistan and fight with the Afghan Mujaheddin. The ISI had encouraged this since 1982, and by now all the other players had their reasons for supporting the idea.

President Zia aimed to cement Islamic unity, turn Pakistan into the leader of the Muslim world and foster an Islamic opposition in Central Asia. Washington wanted to demonstrate that the entire Muslim world was fighting the Soviet Union alongside the Afghans and their American benefactors. And the Saudis saw an opportunity both to promote Wahabbism [their strict and austere creed] and to get rid of its disgruntled radicals. None of the players reckoned on these volunteers having their own agendas, which would eventually turn their hatred against the Soviets on their own regimes and the Americans.