"Pro life" is not a conservative position.

[Utilitarian]

It is leftist big govt shit.
How can you give the govt more authority over a persons body than they have? How you can you claim to be conservative, claim to be against big govt, while putting them as overseers over peoples bodies?
Bodily autonomy is one of the most important human rights in existence.
Dont get me wrong, I think abortion is abhorrent, but the govt dictating what we do with our bodies is way worse. Its tyranny.
It makes no sense to me. At all.

If you're pro-choice, you still have to decide when life legally begins. If the argument is that life legally begins at birth, then killing a pregnant woman should only count as a single homicide. Many pro-choice jurisdictions still treat it as a double homicide, which often contradicts how they define life regarding abortion, depending on how far into the pregnancy the woman was.

Most pro-choice people believe life legally begins sometime before birth, which, by your definition, would make anyone who believes life begins at any point before birth is "big government."

Bodily autonomy is indeed important, but a lot of the pro-choice people didn't apply that to vaccines during COVID. A lot of people are hypocrites in general, of course.

There has to be some logical distinction of when life legally begins, and from there, restrictions should apply to abortion. Personally, I think conception is that point, but I support exceptions for medical and eugenic reasons.

 

[Chuz Life]

If you're pro-choice, you still have to decide when life legally begins. If the argument is that life legally begins at birth, then killing a pregnant woman should only count as a single homicide. Many pro-choice jurisdictions still treat it as a double homicide, which often contradicts how they define life regarding abortion, depending on how far into the pregnancy the woman was.

Most pro-choice people believe life legally begins sometime before birth, which, by your definition, would make anyone who believes life begins at any point before birth is "big government."

Bodily autonomy is indeed important, but a lot of the pro-choice people didn't apply that to vaccines during COVID. A lot of people are hypocrites in general, of course.

There has to be some logical distinction of when life legally begins, and from there, restrictions should apply to abortion. Personally, I think conception is that point, but I support exceptions for medical and eugenic reasons.

It would be nice if the conversation could ever get to the point of "exceptions for rape and for the life of the mother," but it never does.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

It is leftist big govt shit.
How can you give the govt more authority over a persons body than they have? How you can you claim to be conservative, claim to be against big govt, while putting them as overseers over peoples bodies?
Bodily autonomy is one of the most important human rights in existence.
Dont get me wrong, I think abortion is abhorrent, but the govt dictating what we do with our bodies is way worse. Its tyranny.
It makes no sense to me. At all.

Whatever it is the left made me pro heartbeat ...
I was always fine with first trimester until they wanted to kill newborns


Normies libertarians and fence sitters one day the left is gonna completely knock yas off the fences

Yeah we know
We also just wanted to be left alone

 

[Billiejeens]

There is no way around it. Conservative first and foremost is about maximizing freedom and personal responsibility. The "Bible Thumping Socialist" RINO thinks big government is "good" if they are in control of it.

The conservative position on abortion is that it should be legal, it should not be taxpayer funded at the Federal level, and that to "reduce abortions" is about "winning the mind" not big government jackboots and an army of slimebag attorneys...

You and all the pro-aborts have it exactly backwards -

Prior to RVW - a woman would be pregnant, if all of a sudden, she wasn't pregnant and didn't have a baby the local police would arrest her.
Makes sense.

Then Big Federal Government Comes in and tells the police that they cannot arrest people for this particular death.

The big Government Jackboots are the ones protecting the murderer.

I'm not religious, and this is not a religious issue.
It a secular issue, as all other murders are.

This is the simple stuff - it gets harder from here.

 

[TNHarley]

By your logic, the infant is not really human unless the mother delivers the infant.

Am I hearing you correctly?

But to say that the Left is prolife is an absurd lie.

Look around man.

Infant is a born human.

 

[TNHarley]

Which conservatives have posted here that they were in love with the spending?

None that I know of.

No conservatives backed the BBB? Really?

 

[TNHarley]

A baby's life is a baby's life, no matter how you feel about it. "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness..."

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[TNHarley]

There is a difference.

Instead of 9 black robes voting, you have the entire 50 states voting.

You can call it tyranny by democracy if you like, but this is what the Left was bitching and moaning about, the fact that voters got to choose.

The govt is the govt. State or federal.

 

[TNHarley]

What's your solution?

The govt shouldnt be dictating what we do with our bodies.
Yall would all be agreeing with me if we were talking about the clot shot.

 

[TNHarley]

I have to know TN, do you believe in the Birth Fiery that waves her magic wand over the infant as it exits the womb, thus making it human?

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[Unkotare]

It is leftist big govt shit.
How can you give the govt more authority over a persons body than they have? How you can you claim to be conservative, claim to be against big govt, while putting them as overseers over peoples bodies?
Bodily autonomy is one of the most important human rights in existence.
Dont get me wrong, I think abortion is abhorrent, but the govt dictating what we do with our bodies is way worse. Its tyranny.
It makes no sense to me. At all.

You are a dimwit.

 

[TNHarley]

It is authority over the body within which is being protected. I don't know why you fools never get that.

Just as the law protects you from being murdered, it should protect ALL human life from murder.

Pretty simple to understand. If you want to.

It is authority over the body within which is being protected. I don't know why you fools never get that.

Just as the law protects you from being murdered, it should protect ALL human life from murder.

Pretty simple to understand. If you want to.

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Murder is the ILLEGAL taking of ones life, derp.
You guys always rape the meaning of words for emotions sake.

 

[TNHarley]

You are not allowed to use your body to kill a human outside your womb, why should it be legal to kill it inside your womb where it can't even defend itself.

Because its YOUR body.

 

[TNHarley]

defending the basic human rights

Except the most important one being bodily autonomy.

 

[TNHarley]

Killing your child isn’t your body.

No it isnt. Killing your child is murder. We are talking about fetuses, not a child.

 

[TNHarley]

I am a disciple of Newt Gingrich, who wanted abortion "safe, legal, and rare."

I dont know much about that guy as he was before my time, but I totally agree with that!

 

[TNHarley]

Its the 2nd body that is of concern.

Yeah, **** the mother. Its just a vessel. **** her human rights.

 

[TNHarley]

You are a dimwit.

Your name is dripping poop.

 

[Unkotare]

Your name is dripping poop.

Still wrong.

 

[TNHarley]

Still wrong.

Nope.