Price Is No Longer an Obstacle to Clean Power

Oklahoma generated 45% of its total electricity from renewable resources in 2021.

Oklahoma generated 45% of its total in-state electricity from renewable resources in 2021, an increase from about 10% in 2011. About 91% of the state's renewable generation came from Wind energy, but other renewable energy resources contributed to in-state generation, including hydropower and, to a lesser extent, biomass and solar energy.85

And -- very likely -- that 45% contribution was MADE in less than 120 days of the year. The rest of those days -- NAT GAS was close to 90% of the generation. And with Brandon and the Dems designing our energy future -- they WILL KILL Nat gas. Which will not only KILL the Okie grid plan, but result in thousands of body bags.
 
And -- very likely -- that 45% contribution was MADE in less than 120 days of the year. The rest of those days -- NAT GAS was close to 90% of the generation. And with Brandon and the Dems designing our energy future -- they WILL KILL Nat gas. Which will not only KILL the Okie grid plan, but result in thousands of body bags.
This is mere opinion on amount.
They would not be adding if it was not efficient.
I don't imagine Oklahoma is doing this as some sort of liberal Political gesture.
(and I think they will go higher as 3 other states have)

I never objected to NG fill in/back up. (NG pipelines/MLPs the largest part of my portfolio)

My thread start on "Mix" asked for opinions with a starting est of 50-80% renewable.

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The public doesn't know shit about "alternatives". Couldnt name more than 2 or 4. And other than Geothermal mining -- and the "disgraced" big hydro" generators -- NONE of them ARE "alternatives". THere's always a need to DUPLICATE new "renewable" generation with something that you push a button and it PRODUCES RELIABLY. IT's the cost of TWO GENERATORS when ONE of them is perfectly capable of cranking out watts forever and always. And the RENEWABLES? They crank watts when they "feel like it"...

Until "the public" solves that problem of SUBSIDIZING THE FUCK out wind and solar and leaving RELIABLE DELIVERY as "someone else's problem" -- you shouldn't be designing a national electrical system...
Hey, flakey. You know the public continues to subsidize the fuck out of nuclear and fossil fuel sources, but never let that "someone else's problem" stop you. Like it or not, our most reliable generator shall remain the Sun.
 
Hey, flakey. You know the public continues to subsidize the fuck out of nuclear and fossil fuel sources, but never let that "someone else's problem" stop you. Like it or not, our most reliable generator shall remain the Sun.

Subsidizing oil is one of the dumbest claims ever.
Prove it.
 
Yet, green cIean renewable energy costs the consumers 3×s as much per kilowatt.

I detect another lie.
Be careful what you say or Mac1958 will be forced to call you a “nutter”

Greenies are driven by a hysterical fear of global warming

So much fear that they sometimes fantasize about living on Mars

They will do or say anything to further their cause
 
You probably don't have Ding's blessing to answer for him, but I'm curious as to your opinion no matter. How did fracking reduce US GHG emissions?
Ding is a one line unspecified as to time 'interglacial' Troll.
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Price Is No Longer an Obstacle to Clean Power
Peter R. Orszag
Bloomberg
September 22, 2020

"...Geoffrey Heal of Columbia University showing that it would cost only $6 billion a year for the U.S. to move to carbon-free electricity generation by 2050.​
Even if the precise numbers are off, Heal is right to emphasize that the transition to cleaner energy is much less costly today than it used to be. Three forces are changing the math.​
First, renewable power costs are dropping so fast, both utility-scale solar and onshore wind power have become cheaper than natural gas or coal power, as Lazard’s levelized-cost-of-energy estimates from 2019 show. As I wrote when these numbers came out, multiple forces have driven costs down, including ongoing improvements in technology and lower capital costs. (In November, Lazard will have updated estimates of the cost of various energy technologies.)​
Second, the cost of storing renewable energy is also falling. The challenge with wind and solar energy is that they are intermittent, so they require either supplemental conventional power, such as combined-cycle natural gas, or enough storage to smooth the variation relative to demand. As storage becomes more affordable than supplementation, the share of energy production based solely on renewable power can expand.​
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Third, and crucially, many power plants are nearing the end of their useful lives and need to be replaced one way or another. That means the cost of building new facilities is a given, and shouldn’t be counted as a cost of the transition to lower-carbon electricity. ...
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The entire country of Germany would strongly disagree with you.
As well as Sri Lanka and about 12 others.
 
Cost has always been the key, and the only excuse the nutters have. It was inevitable that costs would come down.

Exciting news. Hopefully this country really HAS hit rock bottom and we're about to reverse course.
Only a nutter cant see through the problem. Sane people reject your cotton candy farting unicorn day dream of everything electric
 
Also...... by 2030 - 2040 when all of the EV's currently running around start devolving, batteries reach the point they won't hold a charge... now what?
I will tell you what... a planet killing toxic pile never seen before.
 
Price Is No Longer an Obstacle to Clean Power
Peter R. Orszag
Bloomberg
September 22, 2020

"...Geoffrey Heal of Columbia University showing that it would cost only $6 billion a year for the U.S. to move to carbon-free electricity generation by 2050.​
Even if the precise numbers are off, Heal is right to emphasize that the transition to cleaner energy is much less costly today than it used to be. Three forces are changing the math.​
First, renewable power costs are dropping so fast, both utility-scale solar and onshore wind power have become cheaper than natural gas or coal power, as Lazard’s levelized-cost-of-energy estimates from 2019 show. As I wrote when these numbers came out, multiple forces have driven costs down, including ongoing improvements in technology and lower capital costs. (In November, Lazard will have updated estimates of the cost of various energy technologies.)​
Second, the cost of storing renewable energy is also falling. The challenge with wind and solar energy is that they are intermittent, so they require either supplemental conventional power, such as combined-cycle natural gas, or enough storage to smooth the variation relative to demand. As storage becomes more affordable than supplementation, the share of energy production based solely on renewable power can expand.​
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Third, and crucially, many power plants are nearing the end of their useful lives and need to be replaced one way or another. That means the cost of building new facilities is a given, and shouldn’t be counted as a cost of the transition to lower-carbon electricity. ...
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Nor do they know where the electricity will come from in the winter months in the north to keep manufacturing going homes powered lines at charging stations.
Even in the winter, the sun shines, the wind blows and fissile material still fissions. That is where the power will come from. And in a decade or two, it will be coming from burning and fusing hydrogen.
 
Even in the winter, the sun shines, the wind blows and fissile material still fissions. That is where the power will come from. And in a decade or two, it will be coming from burning and fusing hydrogen.
Just ask Texas how winter killed it's solar panels
 
Even in the winter, the sun shines, the wind blows and fissile material still fissions. That is where the power will come from. And in a decade or two, it will be coming from burning and fusing hydrogen.
how long does the sun shine and how many days a month? You act as if winter doesn't exist or doesn't change the availability of the sun. You still are frozen in your stupid.
 

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