Preview of Trump's New Plan to Defeat ISIS is released ...

[brummelben]

No no that can't be right Candidate Trumph said he was smarter that all the Generals. So I expect him to disregard their plan and finally reveal his much superior plan. You know, bomb the shit out of them and all.

I am sure he is an expert at war planning

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

if this strategy was developed during the Obama administration you have to ask yourself why it wasn't implemented ?

It was ...

... and, it has been so successful, Trump is gonna try to take credit for it.

Really ? They are still chopping off heads, the Battle for Mosul has been going on since last October, and all of this against the "JV" team.

 

[BlindBoo]

No no that can't be right Candidate Trumph said he was smarter that all the Generals. So I expect him to disregard their plan and finally reveal his much superior plan. You know, bomb the shit out of them and all.

I am sure he is an expert at war planning

Well he did attend a Military Academy you know.

 

[brummelben]

if this strategy was developed during the Obama administration you have to ask yourself why it wasn't implemented ?

It was ...

... and, it has been so successful, Trump is gonna try to take credit for it.

Really ? They are still chopping off heads, the Battle for Mosul has been going on since last October, and all of this against the "JV" team.

Bush spent billions training the Iraqi Army, what have we gotten out of that?

 

[TNHarley]

Looks like the PENTAGON'S plan.

Obama's plan was to cheer from the sidelines as ISIS stole military assets & marched them in a convoy across an empty desert in Iraq on their way back to Syria

Why not tell us just what trumps plan is? We have been waiting since he told us he had one ready to go

Trump plans to kill them. It's a stark contrast to Obama's enable them policy.

You're stupid. ISIS is almost done for.

oh wow

You're ignorant of the facts. You should be quiet when you don't know what you're talking about.

Iraqi Forces Wrestle Back Mosul Airport, Military Base

That one city means nothing. Are you really that stupid or just trolling?
ISIS all over that Continent. They might be getting smaller, but saying "almost done for" is absolutely ridiculous.
Just a few months ago, CIA director said they were still bigger than AQ ever was. Also, if you go by the Kurds estimates, its ALOT bigger than that.

 

[BlindBoo]

if this strategy was developed during the Obama administration you have to ask yourself why it wasn't implemented ?

It was ...

... and, it has been so successful, Trump is gonna try to take credit for it.

Really ? They are still chopping off heads, the Battle for Mosul has been going on since last October, and all of this against the "JV" team.

I was on a JV football team once. A year later we went to the State Finals.

 

[brummelben]

Why not tell us just what trumps plan is? We have been waiting since he told us he had one ready to go

Trump plans to kill them. It's a stark contrast to Obama's enable them policy.

You're stupid. ISIS is almost done for.

oh wow

You're ignorant of the facts. You should be quiet when you don't know what you're talking about.

Iraqi Forces Wrestle Back Mosul Airport, Military Base

That one city means nothing. Are you really that stupid or just trolling?
ISIS all over that Continent. They might be getting smaller, but saying "almost done for" is absolutely ridiculous.
Just a few months ago, CIA director said they were still bigger than AQ ever was. Also, if you go by the Kurds estimates, its ALOT bigger than that.

Do you remember just prior to Bush invading Iraq, no one had ever hears of ISIS. Cause and effect?

 

[TNHarley]

Why not tell us just what trumps plan is? We have been waiting since he told us he had one ready to go

Trump plans to kill them. It's a stark contrast to Obama's enable them policy.

You're stupid. ISIS is almost done for.

oh wow

You're ignorant of the facts. You should be quiet when you don't know what you're talking about.

Iraqi Forces Wrestle Back Mosul Airport, Military Base

That one city means nothing. Are you really that stupid or just trolling?
ISIS all over that Continent. They might be getting smaller, but saying "almost done for" is absolutely ridiculous.
Just a few months ago, CIA director said they were still bigger than AQ ever was. Also, if you go by the Kurds estimates, its ALOT bigger than that.

Carb, a few years ago, the Kurds(who were on the ground fighting them at the time) estimated ISIS at around 225K or so while the CIA had it at 30K.

 

[TNHarley]

Trump plans to kill them. It's a stark contrast to Obama's enable them policy.

You're stupid. ISIS is almost done for.

oh wow

You're ignorant of the facts. You should be quiet when you don't know what you're talking about.

Iraqi Forces Wrestle Back Mosul Airport, Military Base

That one city means nothing. Are you really that stupid or just trolling?
ISIS all over that Continent. They might be getting smaller, but saying "almost done for" is absolutely ridiculous.
Just a few months ago, CIA director said they were still bigger than AQ ever was. Also, if you go by the Kurds estimates, its ALOT bigger than that.

Do you remember just prior to Bush invading Iraq, no one had ever hears of ISIS. Cause and effect?

Because they changed their name to ISIS in 2006.. Lol

 

[brummelben]

You're stupid. ISIS is almost done for.

oh wow

You're ignorant of the facts. You should be quiet when you don't know what you're talking about.

Iraqi Forces Wrestle Back Mosul Airport, Military Base

That one city means nothing. Are you really that stupid or just trolling?
ISIS all over that Continent. They might be getting smaller, but saying "almost done for" is absolutely ridiculous.
Just a few months ago, CIA director said they were still bigger than AQ ever was. Also, if you go by the Kurds estimates, its ALOT bigger than that.

Do you remember just prior to Bush invading Iraq, no one had ever hears of ISIS. Cause and effect?

Because they changed their name to ISIS in 2006.. Lol

What were thy called before that?

 

[TNHarley]

oh wow

You're ignorant of the facts. You should be quiet when you don't know what you're talking about.

Iraqi Forces Wrestle Back Mosul Airport, Military Base

That one city means nothing. Are you really that stupid or just trolling?
ISIS all over that Continent. They might be getting smaller, but saying "almost done for" is absolutely ridiculous.
Just a few months ago, CIA director said they were still bigger than AQ ever was. Also, if you go by the Kurds estimates, its ALOT bigger than that.

Do you remember just prior to Bush invading Iraq, no one had ever hears of ISIS. Cause and effect?

Because they changed their name to ISIS in 2006.. Lol

What were thy called before that?

Al Qaeda in Iraq

 

[vlad_hombre]

oh wow

You're ignorant of the facts. You should be quiet when you don't know what you're talking about.

Iraqi Forces Wrestle Back Mosul Airport, Military Base

That one city means nothing. Are you really that stupid or just trolling?
ISIS all over that Continent. They might be getting smaller, but saying "almost done for" is absolutely ridiculous.
Just a few months ago, CIA director said they were still bigger than AQ ever was. Also, if you go by the Kurds estimates, its ALOT bigger than that.

Do you remember just prior to Bush invading Iraq, no one had ever hears of ISIS. Cause and effect?

Because they changed their name to ISIS in 2006.. Lol

What were thy called before that?

The Iraqi Republican Guard.

Thanks, Dubya!

 

[usmbguest5318]

According to the article, part of Obama's strategy was to refrain from arming the YPG, but...

"Trump may decide to provide artillery, armored vehicles, machine guns and other weapons to help its fighters close in on Raqqah, Islamic State’s largest and most important stronghold in Syria."

"Trump has also called for declaring and enforcing so-called safe zones for refugees in northern Syria. The Pentagon has opposed that strategy in the past because of the high expense of defending and supporting the areas, and the need for additional troops to secure them."

"U.S. analysts said they don’t expect the new plan to differ dramatically from the Obama administration’s approach, at least in Iraq."

"'The existing strategy is working slowly but surely,' said Christopher Harmer, an analyst at the Institute for the Study of War, a nonpartisan public policy group. 'Islamic State 'is losing territory bit by bit so you might see changes around the edges, but it’s hard to imagine the administration will want to completely deviate from the current plan,' he added."​

Upon looking at the actual strategy and tactics available, the political claim Trump made -- one that promises to defeat ISIS -- should now, as it should have been during the campaign, be seen as of no real value as it's a claim any candidate for POTUS would make. Had Trump then provided some specifics that distinguish his approach to defeating ISIS from others' plan(s), fine, but he didn't.

​

 

[brummelben]

You're ignorant of the facts. You should be quiet when you don't know what you're talking about.

Iraqi Forces Wrestle Back Mosul Airport, Military Base

That one city means nothing. Are you really that stupid or just trolling?
ISIS all over that Continent. They might be getting smaller, but saying "almost done for" is absolutely ridiculous.
Just a few months ago, CIA director said they were still bigger than AQ ever was. Also, if you go by the Kurds estimates, its ALOT bigger than that.

Do you remember just prior to Bush invading Iraq, no one had ever hears of ISIS. Cause and effect?

Because they changed their name to ISIS in 2006.. Lol

What were thy called before that?

Al Qaeda in Iraq

Sorry buster you couldn't be farther from reality. There are two completely separate organizations. Was Al Queda in Iraq a factor before Bush invaded?

 

[TNHarley]

That one city means nothing. Are you really that stupid or just trolling?
ISIS all over that Continent. They might be getting smaller, but saying "almost done for" is absolutely ridiculous.
Just a few months ago, CIA director said they were still bigger than AQ ever was. Also, if you go by the Kurds estimates, its ALOT bigger than that.

Do you remember just prior to Bush invading Iraq, no one had ever hears of ISIS. Cause and effect?

Because they changed their name to ISIS in 2006.. Lol

What were thy called before that?

Al Qaeda in Iraq

Sorry buster you couldn't be farther from reality. There are two completely separate organizations. Was Al Queda in Iraq a factor before Bush invaded?

Dude you are retarded. It is common knowledge that they changed the name after Zarqawi died.

 

[brummelben]

Do you remember just prior to Bush invading Iraq, no one had ever hears of ISIS. Cause and effect?

Because they changed their name to ISIS in 2006.. Lol

What were thy called before that?

Al Qaeda in Iraq

Sorry buster you couldn't be farther from reality. There are two completely separate organizations. Was Al Queda in Iraq a factor before Bush invaded?

Dude you are retarded. It is common knowledge that they changed the name after Zarqawi died.

No sir, you are totally wrong. Why not send us a link to this,

 

[TNHarley]

Because they changed their name to ISIS in 2006.. Lol

What were thy called before that?

Al Qaeda in Iraq

Sorry buster you couldn't be farther from reality. There are two completely separate organizations. Was Al Queda in Iraq a factor before Bush invaded?

Dude you are retarded. It is common knowledge that they changed the name after Zarqawi died.

No sir, you are totally wrong. Why not send us a link to this,

Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant - Wikipedia
Jordanian radical Abu Musab al-Zarqawi founded Jamāʻat al-Tawḥīd wa-al-Jihād (lit. "The Organisation of Monotheism and Jihad") in 1999.[38] In October 2004, al-Zarqawi pledged allegiance (bay'ah) to al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and renamed the group Tanẓīm Qāʻidat al-Jihād fī Bilād al-Rāfidayn (lit. "The Organisation of Jihad's Base in Mesopotamia"), commonly known as al-Qaeda in Iraq or AQI. Under al-Zarqawi, the group participated in the Iraqi insurgency following the March 2003 invasion of Iraq by Western forces. In January 2006, the group joined other Sunni insurgent groups to form the short-lived Mujahideen Shura Council.
After al-Zarqawi was killed in June 2006, the Mujahideen Shura Council merged in October 2006 with several more insurgent factions to establish ad-Dawlah al-ʻIrāq al-Islāmiyah, also known as the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI).[182] The ISI was led by Abu Omar al-Baghdadi and Abu Ayyub al-Masri,[183] until they were killed in a US–Iraqi operation in April 2010, after which Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi became the group's leader.

 

[brummelben]

What were thy called before that?

Al Qaeda in Iraq

Sorry buster you couldn't be farther from reality. There are two completely separate organizations. Was Al Queda in Iraq a factor before Bush invaded?

Dude you are retarded. It is common knowledge that they changed the name after Zarqawi died.

No sir, you are totally wrong. Why not send us a link to this,

Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant - Wikipedia
Jordanian radical Abu Musab al-Zarqawi founded Jamāʻat al-Tawḥīd wa-al-Jihād (lit. "The Organisation of Monotheism and Jihad") in 1999.[38] In October 2004, al-Zarqawi pledged allegiance (bay'ah) to al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and renamed the group Tanẓīm Qāʻidat al-Jihād fī Bilād al-Rāfidayn (lit. "The Organisation of Jihad's Base in Mesopotamia"), commonly known as al-Qaeda in Iraq or AQI. Under al-Zarqawi, the group participated in the Iraqi insurgency following the March 2003 invasion of Iraq by Western forces. In January 2006, the group joined other Sunni insurgent groups to form the short-lived Mujahideen Shura Council.
After al-Zarqawi was killed in June 2006, the Mujahideen Shura Council merged in October 2006 with several more insurgent factions to establish ad-Dawlah al-ʻIrāq al-Islāmiyah, also known as the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI).[182] The ISI was led by Abu Omar al-Baghdadi and Abu Ayyub al-Masri,[183] until they were killed in a US–Iraqi operation in April 2010, after which Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi became the group's leader.

ISIS was originally formed in 1999, but never got going until members of the Iraqi Army, who Bush dismissed, got it going

 

[TNHarley]

Al Qaeda in Iraq

Sorry buster you couldn't be farther from reality. There are two completely separate organizations. Was Al Queda in Iraq a factor before Bush invaded?

Dude you are retarded. It is common knowledge that they changed the name after Zarqawi died.

No sir, you are totally wrong. Why not send us a link to this,

Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant - Wikipedia
Jordanian radical Abu Musab al-Zarqawi founded Jamāʻat al-Tawḥīd wa-al-Jihād (lit. "The Organisation of Monotheism and Jihad") in 1999.[38] In October 2004, al-Zarqawi pledged allegiance (bay'ah) to al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and renamed the group Tanẓīm Qāʻidat al-Jihād fī Bilād al-Rāfidayn (lit. "The Organisation of Jihad's Base in Mesopotamia"), commonly known as al-Qaeda in Iraq or AQI. Under al-Zarqawi, the group participated in the Iraqi insurgency following the March 2003 invasion of Iraq by Western forces. In January 2006, the group joined other Sunni insurgent groups to form the short-lived Mujahideen Shura Council.
After al-Zarqawi was killed in June 2006, the Mujahideen Shura Council merged in October 2006 with several more insurgent factions to establish ad-Dawlah al-ʻIrāq al-Islāmiyah, also known as the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI).[182] The ISI was led by Abu Omar al-Baghdadi and Abu Ayyub al-Masri,[183] until they were killed in a US–Iraqi operation in April 2010, after which Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi became the group's leader.

ISIS was originally formed in 1999, but never got going until members of the Iraqi Army, who Bush dismissed, got it going

Don't move goal posts.
They had thousands of members by the Iraq invasion. Not to mention, the US government didn't brand the whole group until 2002 or 2003. They had them under different groups, which was incorrect. They admitted their mistake and changed things. They didn't know he was operating all those branches while he was also training thousands of Salafis in Afghanistan

 

[Reasonable]