Zone1 Presidential Acts

[Rye Catcher]

Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2209, governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents that were created or received after January 20, 1981 (i.e., beginning with the Reagan Administration). The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of...

www.archives.gov

"The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter."

and,

Looking back: The Supreme Court decision that ended Nixon’s presidency | Constitution Center

It was on this day in 1974 that the U.S. Supreme Court dealt a fatal blow to President Richard Nixon’s presidency, in a decision that led to the release of the Watergate tapes.

constitutioncenter.org

Nixon argued that the concept of executive privilege gave him the power to withhold sensitive information, such as the tapes, from other government branches in order to maintain confidential communications within the executive branch and to secure the national interest.

On July 24, 1974, a unanimous Court (with Justice Rehnquist not taking part due to a prior role in the Nixon administration) ruled against the President. Chief Justice Warren Burger said that the President didn’t have an absolute, unqualified privilege to withhold information.

“We conclude that when the ground for asserting privilege as to subpoenaed materials sought for use in a criminal trial is based only on the generalized interest in confidentiality, it cannot prevail over the fundamental demands of due process of law in the fair administration of criminal justice. The generalized assertion of privilege must yield to the demonstrated, specific need for evidence in a pending criminal trial,” Burger said.

As the Supreme Court drama was unfolding, the House Judiciary Committee worked on three articles of impeachment against President Nixon. The evidence on the tapes was critical to the impending House impeachment proceedings against Nixon.

The Court ordered the tapes released as soon as possible after a judge had listened to the tapes to decide they were relevant to the trial of the former Nixon aides. About two weeks after the Supreme Court’s decision, President Nixon resigned from office.

Sense trump is a former President he can no longer be impeached or resign from the office of trust; however, him being a citizen he can be indicted.

 

[Maxdeath]

Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2209, governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents that were created or received after January 20, 1981 (i.e., beginning with the Reagan Administration). The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of...

www.archives.gov

"The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter."

and,

Looking back: The Supreme Court decision that ended Nixon’s presidency | Constitution Center

It was on this day in 1974 that the U.S. Supreme Court dealt a fatal blow to President Richard Nixon’s presidency, in a decision that led to the release of the Watergate tapes.

constitutioncenter.org

Nixon argued that the concept of executive privilege gave him the power to withhold sensitive information, such as the tapes, from other government branches in order to maintain confidential communications within the executive branch and to secure the national interest.

On July 24, 1974, a unanimous Court (with Justice Rehnquist not taking part due to a prior role in the Nixon administration) ruled against the President. Chief Justice Warren Burger said that the President didn’t have an absolute, unqualified privilege to withhold information.

“We conclude that when the ground for asserting privilege as to subpoenaed materials sought for use in a criminal trial is based only on the generalized interest in confidentiality, it cannot prevail over the fundamental demands of due process of law in the fair administration of criminal justice. The generalized assertion of privilege must yield to the demonstrated, specific need for evidence in a pending criminal trial,” Burger said.

As the Supreme Court drama was unfolding, the House Judiciary Committee worked on three articles of impeachment against President Nixon. The evidence on the tapes was critical to the impending House impeachment proceedings against Nixon.

The Court ordered the tapes released as soon as possible after a judge had listened to the tapes to decide they were relevant to the trial of the former Nixon aides. About two weeks after the Supreme Court’s decision, President Nixon resigned from office.

Sense trump is a former President he can no longer be impeached or resign from the office of trust; however, him being a citizen he can be indicted.

Does that include 44 who kept some of his records and has promised to convert them to digital which has so far not happened?

 

[Rye Catcher]

Does that include 44 who kept some of his records and has promised to convert them to digital which has so far not happened?

Who says he didn't? Post some probative evidence, or I will:

Obama didn’t keep millions of classified White House documents

Amid mounting revelations surrounding the FBI’s search of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, a counternarrative pushed online — including by Trump himself — posits that Obama similarly kept possession of White House documents after his term of office.

apnews.com

Knowing you have come along with the usual damn liars, here is the proof:

CLAIM: Former President Barack Obama took 30 million documents, many of them classified, to Chicago upon leaving the White House.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Obama administration records are exclusively held and maintained by the National Archives and Records Administration; the federal agency confirmed on Friday. Millions of unclassified documents were transferred after Obama left office to a NARA facility in Chicago, but neither Obama’s personal foundation nor the facility set to house his presidential memorabilia have control over those papers.

THE FACTS: Amid mounting revelations surrounding the FBI’s search of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, a counternarrative pushed online — including by Trump himself — posits that Obama similarly kept possession of White House documents after his term of office.

“President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!” Trump posted on Truth Social, the social network he founded, on Friday.

“OBAMA TOOK 30 Million Documents when he left the WHITEHOUSE and No FBI RAID,” read one tweet posted Tuesday, the day after the FBI’s search, that had garnered almost 20,000 likes by Friday.

But these records were given to NARA in 2017, upon the end of Obama’s term, and they remain in NARA’s sole custody, in accordance with federal law. Some 30 million documents were moved to a NARA-operated facility in the Chicago area, as the agency explained in a statement Friday, but none were classified. The administration’s classified documents are stored in a separate NARA facility in the Washington, D.C., area.

Read this:

The reason why presidents can't keep their White House records dates back to Nixon

Congress changed the law in the 1970s when President Nixon prepared to leave with his documents — and infamous tape recordings.

www.npr.org

For the first two centuries of U.S. history, outgoing presidents simply took their documents with them when they left the White House. The materials were considered their personal property.

But for the past four decades, every presidential document — from notebook doodles to top-secret security plans — is supposed to go directly to the National Archives as the material is considered the property of the American people.

So, when former President Donald Trump left office on Jan. 20, 2021, all his records should have traveled from the White House to the National Archives, according to Jason R. Baron, who served as director of litigation at the National Archives for 13 years.

POLITICS​

The FBI collected multiple sets of classified documents from Trump's Mar-a-Lago home​

"No president has the right to retain presidential records after he or she leaves office," Baron said. "And so it is an extraordinary circumstance if presidential records are found in a former president's residence or anywhere else under his control."

Oh yeah, to answer my first question as to who lied, it was trump himself, the master liar of the century.

 

[Maxdeath]

Who says he didn't? Post some probative evidence.

Read this:

The reason why presidents can't keep their White House records dates back to Nixon

Congress changed the law in the 1970s when President Nixon prepared to leave with his documents — and infamous tape recordings.

www.npr.org

For the first two centuries of U.S. history, outgoing presidents simply took their documents with them when they left the White House. The materials were considered their personal property.

But for the past four decades, every presidential document — from notebook doodles to top-secret security plans — is supposed to go directly to the National Archives as the material is considered the property of the American people.

So, when former President Donald Trump left office on Jan. 20, 2021, all his records should have traveled from the White House to the National Archives, according to Jason R. Baron, who served as director of litigation at the National Archives for 13 years.

POLITICS​

The FBI collected multiple sets of classified documents from Trump's Mar-a-Lago home​

"No president has the right to retain presidential records after he or she leaves office," Baron said. "And so it is an extraordinary circumstance if presidential records are found in a former president's residence or anywhere else under his control."

So that still does not explain why 44 kept some of his and why is he not being prosecuted or raided. Is it because it is purely political or is he somehow allowed because he is special?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Who says he didn't? Post some probative evidence, or I will:

Let’s just wait for the FBI to raid his beachfront property. Hopefully before it’s all washed out to sea by global warming.

 

[BackAgain]

Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2209, governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents that were created or received after January 20, 1981 (i.e., beginning with the Reagan Administration). The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of...

www.archives.gov

"The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter."

and,

Looking back: The Supreme Court decision that ended Nixon’s presidency | Constitution Center

It was on this day in 1974 that the U.S. Supreme Court dealt a fatal blow to President Richard Nixon’s presidency, in a decision that led to the release of the Watergate tapes.

constitutioncenter.org

Nixon argued that the concept of executive privilege gave him the power to withhold sensitive information, such as the tapes, from other government branches in order to maintain confidential communications within the executive branch and to secure the national interest.

On July 24, 1974, a unanimous Court (with Justice Rehnquist not taking part due to a prior role in the Nixon administration) ruled against the President. Chief Justice Warren Burger said that the President didn’t have an absolute, unqualified privilege to withhold information.

“We conclude that when the ground for asserting privilege as to subpoenaed materials sought for use in a criminal trial is based only on the generalized interest in confidentiality, it cannot prevail over the fundamental demands of due process of law in the fair administration of criminal justice. The generalized assertion of privilege must yield to the demonstrated, specific need for evidence in a pending criminal trial,” Burger said.

As the Supreme Court drama was unfolding, the House Judiciary Committee worked on three articles of impeachment against President Nixon. The evidence on the tapes was critical to the impending House impeachment proceedings against Nixon.

The Court ordered the tapes released as soon as possible after a judge had listened to the tapes to decide they were relevant to the trial of the former Nixon aides. About two weeks after the Supreme Court’s decision, President Nixon resigned from office.

Sense trump is a former President he can no longer be impeached or resign from the office of trust; however, him being a citizen he can be indicted.

For uhm … something.

 

[sartre play]

Like the idea that the records belong to the people, It would help towards not making the same mistakes over & over if we knew/ learned a little from history,

 

[Paracetamol63]

I think Trump should be given a "pass" on all this. He was president and that makes him a special person and the usual rules like "Don't take state secrets" shouldn't apply to him like they applied to the Rosenbergs.

 

[Paracetamol63]

Like the idea that the records belong to the people, It would help towards not making the same mistakes over & over if we knew/ learned a little from history,

Writing laws down won't make them more applicable to our gods. You don't haul gods before a judge or treat them like some common person.

 

[badbob85037]

Who says he didn't? Post some probative evidence, or I will:

Obama didn’t keep millions of classified White House documents

Amid mounting revelations surrounding the FBI’s search of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, a counternarrative pushed online — including by Trump himself — posits that Obama similarly kept possession of White House documents after his term of office.

apnews.com

Knowing you have come along with the usual damn liars, here is the proof:

CLAIM: Former President Barack Obama took 30 million documents, many of them classified, to Chicago upon leaving the White House.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Obama administration records are exclusively held and maintained by the National Archives and Records Administration; the federal agency confirmed on Friday. Millions of unclassified documents were transferred after Obama left office to a NARA facility in Chicago, but neither Obama’s personal foundation nor the facility set to house his presidential memorabilia have control over those papers.

THE FACTS: Amid mounting revelations surrounding the FBI’s search of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, a counternarrative pushed online — including by Trump himself — posits that Obama similarly kept possession of White House documents after his term of office.

“President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!” Trump posted on Truth Social, the social network he founded, on Friday.

“OBAMA TOOK 30 Million Documents when he left the WHITEHOUSE and No FBI RAID,” read one tweet posted Tuesday, the day after the FBI’s search, that had garnered almost 20,000 likes by Friday.

But these records were given to NARA in 2017, upon the end of Obama’s term, and they remain in NARA’s sole custody, in accordance with federal law. Some 30 million documents were moved to a NARA-operated facility in the Chicago area, as the agency explained in a statement Friday, but none were classified. The administration’s classified documents are stored in a separate NARA facility in the Washington, D.C., area.

Read this:

The reason why presidents can't keep their White House records dates back to Nixon

Congress changed the law in the 1970s when President Nixon prepared to leave with his documents — and infamous tape recordings.

www.npr.org

For the first two centuries of U.S. history, outgoing presidents simply took their documents with them when they left the White House. The materials were considered their personal property.

But for the past four decades, every presidential document — from notebook doodles to top-secret security plans — is supposed to go directly to the National Archives as the material is considered the property of the American people.

So, when former President Donald Trump left office on Jan. 20, 2021, all his records should have traveled from the White House to the National Archives, according to Jason R. Baron, who served as director of litigation at the National Archives for 13 years.

POLITICS​

The FBI collected multiple sets of classified documents from Trump's Mar-a-Lago home​

"No president has the right to retain presidential records after he or she leaves office," Baron said. "And so it is an extraordinary circumstance if presidential records are found in a former president's residence or anywhere else under his control."

Oh yeah, to answer my first question as to who lied, it was trump himself, the master liar of the century.

So what are you trying to say, Trump took a million with him. This raid on Trump's home will go just as far as all the others have gone. The DOJ and FBI are done no and both should be removed Unless you can show me where the Federal Government needs over 2,000 agencies to deny both the State and peoples rights. It's just a crying shame you democRats wouldn't last a week without government. The rest of us only want the government to leave us alone and stop arming every agency you have to terrorize us. And you wouldn't know a liar if he walk up, introduced him self then slapped the shit out of you. Make sure you thank him for the favor. cause you are full of it.

 

[badbob85037]

Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2209, governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents that were created or received after January 20, 1981 (i.e., beginning with the Reagan Administration). The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of...

www.archives.gov

"The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter."

and,

Looking back: The Supreme Court decision that ended Nixon’s presidency | Constitution Center

It was on this day in 1974 that the U.S. Supreme Court dealt a fatal blow to President Richard Nixon’s presidency, in a decision that led to the release of the Watergate tapes.

constitutioncenter.org

Nixon argued that the concept of executive privilege gave him the power to withhold sensitive information, such as the tapes, from other government branches in order to maintain confidential communications within the executive branch and to secure the national interest.

On July 24, 1974, a unanimous Court (with Justice Rehnquist not taking part due to a prior role in the Nixon administration) ruled against the President. Chief Justice Warren Burger said that the President didn’t have an absolute, unqualified privilege to withhold information.

“We conclude that when the ground for asserting privilege as to subpoenaed materials sought for use in a criminal trial is based only on the generalized interest in confidentiality, it cannot prevail over the fundamental demands of due process of law in the fair administration of criminal justice. The generalized assertion of privilege must yield to the demonstrated, specific need for evidence in a pending criminal trial,” Burger said.

As the Supreme Court drama was unfolding, the House Judiciary Committee worked on three articles of impeachment against President Nixon. The evidence on the tapes was critical to the impending House impeachment proceedings against Nixon.

The Court ordered the tapes released as soon as possible after a judge had listened to the tapes to decide they were relevant to the trial of the former Nixon aides. About two weeks after the Supreme Court’s decision, President Nixon resigned from office.

Sense trump is a former President he can no longer be impeached or resign from the office of trust; however, him being a citizen he can be indicted.

Give it a rest. Trump hasn't been president for two years. And to do this with the worst piece of shit ever in office celebrating our delusional great economy by lying his dirty ass off Trump ain't who you should be worried about. Just what the fuck is wrong with you? Do you even have a clue on reality. Buying a house will cost you over $150,000 more than just a year ago. Gas is doubled and so is everything else food, building supplies has over doubled, car parts. everything You must live in a bubble or be as stupid as that fuck you elected. And anyone who reads so of the shit you hacks wright lets ever one reading it know, Why don't you write a useful story on how to remove your head from deep in your ass that a lot of clowns can really use?

 

[Rye Catcher]

Give it a rest. Trump hasn't been president for two years. And to do this with the worst piece of shit ever in office celebrating our delusional great economy by lying his dirty ass off Trump ain't who you should be worried about. Just what the fuck is wrong with you? Do you even have a clue on reality. Buying a house will cost you over $150,000 more than just a year ago. Gas is doubled and so is everything else food, building supplies has over doubled, car parts. everything You must live in a bubble or be as stupid as that fuck you elected. And anyone who reads so of the shit you hacks wright lets ever one reading it know, Why don't you write a useful story on how to remove your head from deep in your ass that a lot of clowns can really use?

Not only are you an asshole, you are a stupid asshole. You haven't a clue as to the problem the current iteration of the GOP's policies were under trump.

Grow up a try to finish high school.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Not only are you an asshole, you are a stupid asshole. You haven't a clue as to the problem the current iteration of the GOP's policies was under trump.

Grow up a try to finish high school.

Explain in detail the problem you refer to.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Explain in detail the problem you refer to.

The problem? That's a joke, correct?

How about kissing the ass of Putin and Kim; Alienating the Mexican People, the UN, NATO and all of Central and South America; lying incessantly, misleading the American Citizens, dividing our nation with hatful rhetoric and beginning in 2015 attempting to destroy democracy in America?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The problem? That's a joke, correct?

How about kissing the ass of Putin and Kim; Alienating the Mexican People, the UN, NATO and all of Central and South America; lying incessantly, misleading the American Citizens, dividing our nation with hatful rhetoric and beginning in 2015 attempting to destroy democracy in America?

What were the problems? Your Putin and Kim comments are propaganda and conjecture. Putin didn’t invade anyone while trump was president. Probably because trump’s military order resulted in the deaths of a couple hundred Russian military who were where they weren’t supposed to be.
What so-called ‘lies’ of trump caused any problem? Besides what your propagandists propagate?
Nothing has divided and segregated this country more than democrat policy. Democrats demonize anything construed as ‘white’ (except for themselves) and pander to all things construed as ‘not-white’.
Your alienation comment is more propaganda. The potus’s job is to protect Americans, not Central Americans.

 

[Rye Catcher]

What were the problems? Your Putin and Kim comments are propaganda and conjecture. Putin didn’t invade anyone while trump was president. Probably because trump’s military order resulted in the deaths of a couple hundred Russian military who were where they weren’t supposed to be.
What so-called ‘lies’ of trump caused any problem? Besides what your propagandists propagate?
Nothing has divided and segregated this country more than democrat policy. Democrats demonize anything construed as ‘white’ (except for themselves) and pander to all things construed as ‘not-white’.
Your alienation comment is more propaganda. The potus’s job is to protect Americans, not Central Americans.

You've been brainwashed.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

You've been brainwashed.

Not at all. I consider evidence and reality. You didn’t answer my questions.