President Obama to visit the Democratic state of Oregon on Friday

[blackhawk]

Interesting how can always find the time to make these trips when he thinks there might be a political upside for but when there is not he is neither seen nor heard. See Kate Steinle.

That murder is no more tragic than any other the murder's legal status is meaningless.

So why is Obama going to see these families but did not go to see hers? If he tried to politicize hers he would have had to confront issues he doesn't care about not the case here one has a possible upside for him one didn't.

False comparison.

In all of the other high profile shootings that have happened during Obamas Presidency he has visted the family, called them, commented on the shooting, attended the funeral or sent a represenative to with Kate Steinle and her family none of that. What other reason might there be for that other than the fact that to address her murder he would have to field questions about criminal illegal aliens who have been deported mulpitle times and come back and sanctury cities who allow it two things that are near the top of his do not care list.

Of course they aren't classic straw grasping.

Classic avoiding the question .

 

[whitehall]

Is that how the liberal new world order refers to states now? "The democratic state of Oregon"?

 

[blackhawk]

Interesting how can always find the time to make these trips when he thinks there might be a political upside for but when there is not he is neither seen nor heard. See Kate Steinle.

That murder is no more tragic than any other the murder's legal status is meaningless.

So why is Obama going to see these families but did not go to see hers? If he tried to politicize hers he would have had to confront issues he doesn't care about not the case here one has a possible upside for him one didn't.

Damned if you do....damned if you don't.

There are 10,000 gun murders a year that he doesn't get to visit

If your only going to address the high profile murders that you can use to try and push your political agenda maybe you shouldn't address any.

And the right has no agenda?

Did I ever say the right has no agenda? The simple fact is a President will always get the most coverage from the press on something like this and therfore be able to use it to push his agenda farther there is no bigger megaphone or bullypulpit than the office of the President.

 

[Papageorgio]

It is great that he is providing solace in a time of grief. Nothing better than the President traveling to meet you and share your pain

Too bad Republicans are politicizing the visit

Obama is politicizing the event by his visit. Too bad he is using a tragedy to advance his agenda.

How can a President be politicizing just by visiting? That is part of being President.

How is he using a tragedy to advance his agenda? Obama was for increased gun controls before he was elected. And more so after, Aurora, Sandy Hook, Tucson, Ft Hood, Washington Navy Yard, Ft Hood again, Charleston and now Roseburg.

Our President, as well as most of the country has had enough of this shit. Most of the country supports enhanced background checks and bans on large magazines.......that is not politicizing

Yes it is, otherwise he wouldn't need to go. Many tragedies he can go to, just this one with a huge Democratic agenda and Friday he will have his speech about better gun control.

The President feels personally about these tragedies. He is fucking sick of them as are most Americans

Only Republican candidates reply...stuff happens

I understand that he is sick of it, and you are reenforcing why he is politicizing it

 

[daws101]

That murder is no more tragic than any other the murder's legal status is meaningless.

So why is Obama going to see these families but did not go to see hers? If he tried to politicize hers he would have had to confront issues he doesn't care about not the case here one has a possible upside for him one didn't.

False comparison.

In all of the other high profile shootings that have happened during Obamas Presidency he has visted the family, called them, commented on the shooting, attended the funeral or sent a represenative to with Kate Steinle and her family none of that. What other reason might there be for that other than the fact that to address her murder he would have to field questions about criminal illegal aliens who have been deported mulpitle times and come back and sanctury cities who allow it two things that are near the top of his do not care list.

Of course they aren't classic straw grasping.

Classic avoiding the question .

That was not a question but a biased proclamation.

 

[daws101]

That murder is no more tragic than any other the murder's legal status is meaningless.

So why is Obama going to see these families but did not go to see hers? If he tried to politicize hers he would have had to confront issues he doesn't care about not the case here one has a possible upside for him one didn't.

Damned if you do....damned if you don't.

There are 10,000 gun murders a year that he doesn't get to visit

If your only going to address the high profile murders that you can use to try and push your political agenda maybe you shouldn't address any.

And the right has no agenda?

Did I ever say the right has no agenda? The simple fact is a President will always get the most coverage from the press on something like this and therfore be able to use it to push his agenda farther there is no bigger megaphone or bullypulpit than the office of the President.

gun control is not an
Agenda it's a plague.

 

[daws101]

It is great that he is providing solace in a time of grief. Nothing better than the President traveling to meet you and share your pain

Too bad Republicans are politicizing the visit

Obama is politicizing the event by his visit. Too bad he is using a tragedy to advance his agenda.

How can a President be politicizing just by visiting? That is part of being President.

How is he using a tragedy to advance his agenda? Obama was for increased gun controls before he was elected. And more so after, Aurora, Sandy Hook, Tucson, Ft Hood, Washington Navy Yard, Ft Hood again, Charleston and now Roseburg.

Our President, as well as most of the country has had enough of this shit. Most of the country supports enhanced background checks and bans on large magazines.......that is not politicizing

Yes it is, otherwise he wouldn't need to go. Many tragedies he can go to, just this one with a huge Democratic agenda and Friday he will have his speech about better gun control.

The President feels personally about these tragedies. He is fucking sick of them as are most Americans

Only Republican candidates reply...stuff happens

I understand that he is sick of it, and you are reenforcing why he is politicizing it

It's a legal and political problem .
Acknowledging that is not politicizing it .
The Steinle killing is being politicized.

 

[Papageorgio]

Obama is politicizing the event by his visit. Too bad he is using a tragedy to advance his agenda.

False, he's.

doing what a president should do
If he's politicizing it then bush was politicizing 911 when he went to ground zero.
Also when he didn't go to new Orleans after Katrina or all the mass shootings that happened on his watch.

Why this tragedy, why not South Chicago? Why not Seattle after the bus crash? Not not S. Carolina with the hurricane and flooding? Why talk about Trayvon Martin and not one of hundreds of others that died? Why put together a visit and a federal investigation at Ferguson? What was so special about these events and not others that lost their life?

Katrina and 911 are huge loss of life and death, it was appropriate for a Presidential visit.

Damned if you do
Damned if you don't

Not really, why didn't he meet with those in Seattle? Six young students died. Another dozen injured. He will politicize it on Friday asking for more control measures.

Do we have a rash of Duckboat murders in this country?

Right nothing to politicize. Would you expect a politician not to?

 

[Papageorgio]

WASHINGTON — President Obama will travel to Roseburg, Ore. on Friday to meet with the families of victims of the mass shooting at a community college there last week, White House officials said.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the schedule has not been finalized, said Obama would meet with the families privately.

More: Obama to visit Roseburg Friday

President Obama will likely receive a warm welcome - since he won re-election in 2012 by a 12% margin.

Will he then go to California and meet the family of Kate Steinle?

No political advantage, that is pretty clear.

The president needs no political advantage thinking that he does is stupidity incarnate.

He is a politician, do you really think he is going to go to Roseburg and not say something political? Are you really that stupid? Why in the hell would he go there?

 

[daws101]

False, he's.

doing what a president should do
If he's politicizing it then bush was politicizing 911 when he went to ground zero.
Also when he didn't go to new Orleans after Katrina or all the mass shootings that happened on his watch.

Why this tragedy, why not South Chicago? Why not Seattle after the bus crash? Not not S. Carolina with the hurricane and flooding? Why talk about Trayvon Martin and not one of hundreds of others that died? Why put together a visit and a federal investigation at Ferguson? What was so special about these events and not others that lost their life?

Katrina and 911 are huge loss of life and death, it was appropriate for a Presidential visit.

Damned if you do
Damned if you don't

Not really, why didn't he meet with those in Seattle? Six young students died. Another dozen injured. He will politicize it on Friday asking for more control measures.

Do we have a rash of Duckboat murders in this country?

Right nothing to politicize. Would you expect a politician not to?

Yammering to yourself ?

 

[daws101]

WASHINGTON — President Obama will travel to Roseburg, Ore. on Friday to meet with the families of victims of the mass shooting at a community college there last week, White House officials said.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the schedule has not been finalized, said Obama would meet with the families privately.

More: Obama to visit Roseburg Friday

President Obama will likely receive a warm welcome - since he won re-election in 2012 by a 12% margin.

Will he then go to California and meet the family of Kate Steinle?

No political advantage, that is pretty clear.

The president needs no political advantage thinking that he does is stupidity incarnate.

He is a politician, do you really think he is going to go to Roseburg and not say something political? Are you really that stupid? Why in the hell would he go there?

Why did bush go to ground zero?

 

[Papageorgio]

Why this tragedy, why not South Chicago? Why not Seattle after the bus crash? Not not S. Carolina with the hurricane and flooding? Why talk about Trayvon Martin and not one of hundreds of others that died? Why put together a visit and a federal investigation at Ferguson? What was so special about these events and not others that lost their life?

Katrina and 911 are huge loss of life and death, it was appropriate for a Presidential visit.

Damned if you do
Damned if you don't

Not really, why didn't he meet with those in Seattle? Six young students died. Another dozen injured. He will politicize it on Friday asking for more control measures.

Do we have a rash of Duckboat murders in this country?

Right nothing to politicize. Would you expect a politician not to?

Yammering to yourself ?

No, I have been talking mainly to rightwinger. You are just ignorantly butting in.

 

[blackhawk]

So why is Obama going to see these families but did not go to see hers? If he tried to politicize hers he would have had to confront issues he doesn't care about not the case here one has a possible upside for him one didn't.

False comparison.

In all of the other high profile shootings that have happened during Obamas Presidency he has visted the family, called them, commented on the shooting, attended the funeral or sent a represenative to with Kate Steinle and her family none of that. What other reason might there be for that other than the fact that to address her murder he would have to field questions about criminal illegal aliens who have been deported mulpitle times and come back and sanctury cities who allow it two things that are near the top of his do not care list.

Of course they aren't classic straw grasping.

Classic avoiding the question .

That was not a question but a biased proclamation.

That was a deflection from someone who knows the answer but can't bring themselves to admit it.

 

[daws101]

Damned if you do
Damned if you don't

Not really, why didn't he meet with those in Seattle? Six young students died. Another dozen injured. He will politicize it on Friday asking for more control measures.

Do we have a rash of Duckboat murders in this country?

Right nothing to politicize. Would you expect a politician not to?

Yammering to yourself ?

No, I have been talking mainly to rightwinger. You are just ignorantly butting in.

False ! count the posts .

 

[blackhawk]

So why is Obama going to see these families but did not go to see hers? If he tried to politicize hers he would have had to confront issues he doesn't care about not the case here one has a possible upside for him one didn't.

Damned if you do....damned if you don't.

There are 10,000 gun murders a year that he doesn't get to visit

If your only going to address the high profile murders that you can use to try and push your political agenda maybe you shouldn't address any.

And the right has no agenda?

Did I ever say the right has no agenda? The simple fact is a President will always get the most coverage from the press on something like this and therfore be able to use it to push his agenda farther there is no bigger megaphone or bullypulpit than the office of the President.

gun control is not an
Agenda it's a plague.

Going to have to find a translator for that.

 

[Rustic]

It sucked a$$ here in SD when he visited... Hope and change was forced on everyone.

Everyone had their pockets picked...

 

[daws101]

False comparison.

In all of the other high profile shootings that have happened during Obamas Presidency he has visted the family, called them, commented on the shooting, attended the funeral or sent a represenative to with Kate Steinle and her family none of that. What other reason might there be for that other than the fact that to address her murder he would have to field questions about criminal illegal aliens who have been deported mulpitle times and come back and sanctury cities who allow it two things that are near the top of his do not care list.

Of course they aren't classic straw grasping.

Classic avoiding the question .

That was not a question but a biased proclamation.

That was a deflection from someone who knows the answer but can't bring themselves to admit it.

False nothing to answer
Erroneous assumption.

 

[daws101]

Damned if you do....damned if you don't.

There are 10,000 gun murders a year that he doesn't get to visit

If your only going to address the high profile murders that you can use to try and push your political agenda maybe you shouldn't address any.

And the right has no agenda?

Did I ever say the right has no agenda? The simple fact is a President will always get the most coverage from the press on something like this and therfore be able to use it to push his agenda farther there is no bigger megaphone or bullypulpit than the office of the President.

gun control is not an
Agenda it's a plague.

Going to have to find a translator for that.

How bout learning to read?

 

[daws101]

It sucked a$$ here in SD when he visited... Hope and change was forced on everyone.

Everyone had their pockets picked...

Proof?

 

[Papageorgio]

WASHINGTON — President Obama will travel to Roseburg, Ore. on Friday to meet with the families of victims of the mass shooting at a community college there last week, White House officials said.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the schedule has not been finalized, said Obama would meet with the families privately.

More: Obama to visit Roseburg Friday

President Obama will likely receive a warm welcome - since he won re-election in 2012 by a 12% margin.

Will he then go to California and meet the family of Kate Steinle?

No political advantage, that is pretty clear.

The president needs no political advantage thinking that he does is stupidity incarnate.

He is a politician, do you really think he is going to go to Roseburg and not say something political? Are you really that stupid? Why in the hell would he go there?

Why did bush go to ground zero?

Dodge!