President Elect Donald J Trump; Demagogic Genius

JimBowie1958

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Well, I've been saying this for some time, though I dont consider Trump to be a demagogue.

But the article is interesting food for thought.

The demagogic genius of Donald J. Trump

Yet it's also the case that our appreciation for the distinct character of the threat Trump poses to the country's political order would be enhanced if we devoted a little more time to acknowledging that the risks are at least as much a product of Trump's talents as they are of his many faults.

The ominous fact is that Trump is undeniably one of the greatest intuitive political geniuses in history. Think about it: A wealthy businessman with no political experience at all takes on more than a dozen experienced politicians and manages to prevail, winning the presidential nomination of a major party. He then runs what an army of experts and analysts consider to be a train wreck of a general-election campaign and nonetheless manages to prevail to become the president-elect of the most powerful nation on Earth. It's an astonishing accomplishment.

This doesn't mean that Trump had it all planned out ahead of time, like some Machiavelli from Manhattan. On the contrary, I suspect he's as surprised as anyone that the quixotic campaign he launched in June of 2015 has delivered him to the front door of the White House. As I said, he's an intuitive genius. Radicalizing certain recent tendencies of the Republican Party and diverging from it in others, Trump tried something new and it worked. The most discontented voters in the party listened to his message and responded to it, probably without realizing that this is what they wanted until they heard it. ....

Trump's unorthodox actions, regularly ridiculed by pundits, revealed just how institutionally conservative the gatekeepers are. They strive to uphold norms, propriety, habits — and Trump shredded them over and over again. By shredding them, he amplified his message, showing voters what he repeatedly told them: that he wouldn't abide by the ordinary rules of the political game or accept the constraints that they impose on other politicians. And in an act of supreme recklessness, just enough voters in just the right number of states decided to make the leap into an experiment in radicalism with Trump as their demagogic leader.

To see the populist dynamic in action — and catch a glimpse of how its logic is likely to shape our political future — you need look no further than this past weekend's conflagration surrounding Mike Pence's visit to the hit Broadway musical Hamilton. As everyone knows, Pence was booed by members of the audience at the start of the play, and at the conclusion one of the lead actors directed a critical statement to the vice president-elect.

Pence's response was exactly what one would expect from a public figure operating at the national level. He rose above passion to speak high-mindedly, graciously, magnanimously: "I wasn't offended…. That's what freedom sounds like." That's standard politics enacted with competence....

But Trump? As always, he did the "wrong" thing — the thing that everyone from George Washington on down to a present-day political consultant would advise against: For two days in a row, he took to a public forum (Twitter, of course) to lambast the cast of the play, take umbrage on behalf of his running mate, and petulantly demand an apology.

Once again, I don't want to presume strategic intent. Whether Trump's reaction was the product of a conscious decision or an impulsive response to a provocation, it's uncanny how Trump's unorthodox, demagogic behavior just so happens to advance his political fortunes.

Consider:

  • Trump's Twitter outburst distracted media attention from two potentially radioactive stories — his far-right Cabinet nominees and his $25 million settlement in the Trump University lawsuit.
  • It ensured maximal, extended coverage of Pence's treatment at Hamilton — an event that instantly became the latest example of liberal elite condescension toward the political views of "ordinary Americans."
  • It guaranteed that the faction of the GOP base that responds most passionately to Trump would remain angry and politically engaged. That will be extremely important in ensuring that Trump gets what he wants from the Republican Congress — including a pass on behavior that might otherwise prompt investigations into corruption.
  • It provoked an equal and opposite freak-out among liberals, who will now be more inclined than ever to engage in actions that inspire the next round of indignant Trump tweets — which will of course lead the demagogic dynamic that benefits Trump to repeat itself yet again.
According to the normal rules of politics, Trump is a mess who gets nothing right. And yet he keeps succeeding, which just might mean that the normal rules of politics no longer apply — or at least that they apply differently than they used to.
 
Trump is a genius at hitting the "sweet spot" and selling whatever it is he happens to be selling at the moment. He knows the media inside and out, and just how to manipulate it. He also knows how to manipulate his followers by telling them repeatedly how unfair and what liars the media is. That way, the people will automatically discount anything critical said about Trump. And boy, he is probably going to need it at some point. Interesting guy.
Good OP.
 
Trump has bought us 4 years to undo as much of the Rat damage as possible....I doubt he'll be interested in a second term so it's time to STRIKE while the iron is hot. Stack the USSC, build an impenetrable wall on the southern border, dismantle the depts of education, commerce, and give everybody else a 10% haircut. Get out of NAFTA, treat China and Japan the way they've treated us in trade deals, and repair our roads and bridges. Toss out the illegals. Get rid of Barry-Care and ISIS and pave the way for a GOP successor in 2020. That gives us a firewall against an overwhelming number of Rat voters who will appear in 2018 and 2020 to take back power.
 
Trump only won because his "competition" was PATHETIC.

Hillary
Gary Johnson
Ted Cruz
Rubio


BLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Against a decent opponent, Trump would've failed to get 100 electorals.
 
Just a smidge over Half of the people who actually voted said "No", but again, using hits to decide a baseball game....

This isn't a baseball game, it's an election.

One person. One vote.

Hillary got 1.7 million more of them.

The people Said, "NO"

The Presidency isn't elected by one person, one vote. Its the way it works. You are just a whiny useless twat-bitch, nothing more or less.
 
The details of the popular vote seem to upset the “winners” of the election.


Standard lib tactic #3.

Be an ass and then when the person you are trolling responds appropriately to your assholeness, pretend that their anger is something wrong with them.


Such dishonest and infuriating tactics is one of the reasons for the high turnout among Trump supporters. You lefties pissed off a lot of people over the last 50 years.
 
The details of the popular vote seem to upset the “winners” of the election.
They are really going to be upset when they actually are able to figure out what they won.

Well, in all truthfulness, I’m encouraged to see the veering to the center. Maybe he will tell the GOP leadership to go to hell on some matters….

I doubt it since he seems to be promoting GOP members left and right but like a rolling thunderstorm during an afternoon, every now and then a glimmer of sunlight breaks through…
 
Just a smidge over Half of the people who actually voted said "No", but again, using hits to decide a baseball game....

This isn't a baseball game, it's an election.

One person. One vote.

Hillary got 1.7 million more of them.

The people Said, "NO"
So Hillary only won by 1.7 million out of 10 million illegal immigrant votes?
Something seems askew.
 
The details of the popular vote seem to upset the “winners” of the election.

It isn't the details of the popular vote. It's turds like JoeBlow who ignore reality and rules when it suits him, and then goes running behind them when it then suits him.
 
Trump is a genius at hitting the "sweet spot" and selling whatever it is he happens to be selling at the moment. He knows the media inside and out, and just how to manipulate it. He also knows how to manipulate his followers by telling them repeatedly how unfair and what liars the media is. That way, the people will automatically discount anything critical said about Trump. And boy, he is probably going to need it at some point. Interesting guy.
Good OP.

Right, Trump somehow duped 60 million voters do you know how utterly stupid that sounds. Just admit it Hillary was a flawed candidate with a ton of baggage and she lost fair and square.
 

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