President Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

[mal]

so what....dynamite has many good uses...

Without it, we would never had had this:

peace...

 

[mudwhistle]

Well, I might agree with something like that if the nominations closed last week after his rankings in the polls had fallen, but at the time of the close of nominations he was the messiah of the Democratic Party. He was nominated long before the polls began to dip, so I don't see how you can claim that this was done because he needed to be boosted in the polls.

Immie

I don't agree with the premise. But it is possible. Nominations were closed in February, however the voting for who would win it didn't close until October...1st I believe?

Kinda like the time between a primary and a general election. Pretty much same concept.

Exactly.

People who think the time between nomination and actual awarding is somehow lost in vacuumland are off their rocker.

Look.....this guy and his crew have made it a policy to lie and mislead the general population. He has been caught in a number of lies.

To be more to the point I think he is almost totally incapable of being 100% honest about anything.

So forgive me if I question what he says or what is truly behind this or any other issue that comes up from now on.

Only a fool takes the Obama Administration at face value.

 

[eagleseven]

1123 posts in one thread...holy shit!

 

[Immanuel]

Of course not. Which is why I said I reject the premise. I was simply pointing out that the timing still works.

But, some may believe that which is why I pointed it out.

I do not know who nominated him, but I can just see Nancy Pelosi (I don't think she is even allowed to make the nomination but just follow the point here) throwing the President's name into the hat for this award and thinking "I had better do this today because in October the President is going to need a boost in his ratings". And then after all that, come the final days for the voting on this they would have to convince the committee members that President Obama needed their help.

This award is ludicrous, but I can't imagine how they could have planned for even the need for such an award so early in his Presidency.

Immie

No one know who made the nominations.

For all we know, it could have been a Social Science professor in Kenya.

;/

As I stated, I have no idea who made the nomination. I used Nancy Pelosi as an example to point out how preposterous the idea was.

But this leads me to a question. How do we even know that anyone nominated him at all? How do we know that it was not simply the committee that decided to award him the prize in order to achieve their own goals?

George W. Bush won the election in 2000 although some left wingers steal contend that the election was stolen. How do we know that it was not? For that matter, how do we know that George Washington won the election to become the first President of the U.S. or that any of the other President's won their elections.

We trust those who count the votes... why? Have they done anything to earn our trust? Same thing goes for the Peace Prize committee. How do we honestly know that anyone nominated Barack Obama before 2/1/09?

Now in all truthfulness, it really doesn't matter, but that award has always been a prestigious award but it cheapens the award when people who do not deserve it are presented with it. It is like giving the Super Bowl trophy to the Detroit Lions last year when they didn't win a single game simply because we feel sorry for them. What would the Lombardi Trophy mean to Detroit then?

Immie

 

[mal]

1123 posts in one thread...holy shit!

Nope, that's Holy Shit...



peace...

 

[Murf76]

Why do we care?

We care because it's a snake-oil marketing ploy designed to bamboozle the young and politically impressionable amongst us. It's an artificial inflation of Barack Obama's credibility meant to influence our foreign policy and our democratic elections.

These eggheads BYPASSED candidates who had actually accomplished something in favor of their stated "hope" that Barry might one day have an accomplishment of his own.
And... they wagered their own prestige in order to do it, knowing there would be criticism.

That's meaningful.

They are attempting to manipulate us.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Why do we care?

We care because it's a snake-oil marketing ploy designed to bamboozle the young and politically impressionable amongst us. It's an artificial inflation of Barack Obama's credibility meant to influence our foreign policy and our democratic elections.

These eggheads BYPASSED candidates who had actually accomplished something in favor of their stated "hope" that Barry might one day have an accomplishment of his own.
And... they wagered their own prestige in order to do it, knowing there would be criticism.

That's meaningful.


They are attempting to manipulate us.

That may well be their intent, but why do we care? I mean, can you think of any other subject, with the possible exception of sardines, on which we say, "Hmmm, I just can't make up my mind until I hear what the Norwegians have to say about this."?

 

[paperview]

And the lesson to be learned is...

Never underestimate the power of 5 spunky Norwegians with an infectious case of premature acclamation.

 

[mudwhistle]

But, some may believe that which is why I pointed it out.

I do not know who nominated him, but I can just see Nancy Pelosi (I don't think she is even allowed to make the nomination but just follow the point here) throwing the President's name into the hat for this award and thinking "I had better do this today because in October the President is going to need a boost in his ratings". And then after all that, come the final days for the voting on this they would have to convince the committee members that President Obama needed their help.

This award is ludicrous, but I can't imagine how they could have planned for even the need for such an award so early in his Presidency.

Immie

No one know who made the nominations.

For all we know, it could have been a Social Science professor in Kenya.

;/

As I stated, I have no idea who made the nomination. I used Nancy Pelosi as an example to point out how preposterous the idea was.

But this leads me to a question. How do we even know that anyone nominated him at all? How do we know that it was not simply the committee that decided to award him the prize in order to achieve their own goals?

George W. Bush won the election in 2000 although some left wingers steal contend that the election was stolen. How do we know that it was not? For that matter, how do we know that George Washington won the election to become the first President of the U.S. or that any of the other President's won their elections.

We trust those who count the votes... why? Have they done anything to earn our trust? Same thing goes for the Peace Prize committee. How do we honestly know that anyone nominated Barack Obama before 2/1/09?

Now in all truthfulness, it really doesn't matter, but that award has always been a prestigious award but it cheapens the award when people who do not deserve it are presented with it. It is like giving the Super Bowl trophy to the Detroit Lions last year when they didn't win a single game simply because we feel sorry for them. What would the Lombardi Trophy mean to Detroit then?

Immie

I have no doubt that one of his suckups nominated him.

Anyone can get nominated. Rush Limbaugh was nominated.

 

[DavidS]

On the same day that the US declared war on the moon by bombing it, Obama wins the Peace Prize? I bet the Lunararians aren't too pleased about this!

 

[toomuchtime_]

And the lesson to be learned is...

Never underestimate the power of 5 spunky Norwegians with an infectious case of premature acclamation.

No matter how much spunk they got on themselves, I'd argue we are overestimating the power of these excitable Norwegians. What we have learned is that no matter how well Obama's speeches may translate into Norwegian, they don't translate very well into accomplishments, and this award is unlikely to change that fact.

 

[Murf76]

That may well be their intent, but why do we care? I mean, can you think of any other subject, with the possible exception of sardines, on which we say, "Hmmm, I just can't make up my mind until I hear what the Norwegians have to say about this."?

We care because it actually IS an effective political strategy, which WILL influence Obama's handling of the war in Afghanistan and WILL cozen a percentage of American voters into believing Obama's policies are more credible than they actually are.

Forums like this one are filled to the brim with political junkies. We eat, breathe, and shit this stuff. But we're the minority. The average American gets snippets of political news here and there. They don't delve into the WHY of it all.

Now, giving Obama the NPP isn't going to win the day for global socialists. But it IS an unwarranted and incremental interference into American politics... a mind-**** perpetrated upon our people.

 

[paperview]

And the lesson to be learned is...

Never underestimate the power of 5 spunky Norwegians with an infectious case of premature acclamation.

No matter how much spunk they got on themselves, I'd argue we are overestimating the power of these excitable Norwegians. What we have learned is that no matter how well Obama's speeches may translate into Norwegian, they don't translate very well into accomplishments, and this award is unlikely to change that fact.

The majority I see overestimating their power is the American right wingers.

 

[toomuchtime_]

That may well be their intent, but why do we care? I mean, can you think of any other subject, with the possible exception of sardines, on which we say, "Hmmm, I just can't make up my mind until I hear what the Norwegians have to say about this."?

We care because it actually IS an effective political strategy, which WILL influence Obama's handling of the war in Afghanistan and WILL cozen a percentage of American voters into believing Obama's policies are more credible than they actually are.

Forums like this one are filled to the brim with political junkies. We eat, breathe, and shit this stuff. But we're the minority. The average American gets snippets of political news here and there. They don't delve into the WHY of it all.

Now, giving Obama the NPP isn't going to win the day for global socialists. But it IS an unwarranted and incremental interference into American politics... a mind-**** perpetrated upon our people.

I disagree. If this prize benefits anyone, it will be Republicans who will use it to highlight the great disparity between the expectations Obama's speeches create and the lack of accomplishments he delivers. I think for most Americans this award will only serve to make the Nobel committee look foolish.

 

[Murf76]

I disagree. If this prize benefits anyone, it will be Republicans who will use it to highlight the great disparity between the expectations Obama's speeches create and the lack of accomplishments he delivers. I think for most Americans this award will only serve to make the Nobel committee look foolish.

That only works on the politically educated. If we don't use this opportunity to openly ridicule the Nobel Committee, to MAKE them the global laughingstocks they risked being... they succeed in elevating Barack Obama to the stature of Mother Theresa.

If we allow this high-handed manipulation to pass without mainstreaming the truth of it, to the point where even the most politically naive amongst us can see it for what it is... they win.

 

[L.K.Eder]

No one know who made the nominations.

For all we know, it could have been a Social Science professor in Kenya.

;/

As I stated, I have no idea who made the nomination. I used Nancy Pelosi as an example to point out how preposterous the idea was.

But this leads me to a question. How do we even know that anyone nominated him at all? How do we know that it was not simply the committee that decided to award him the prize in order to achieve their own goals?

George W. Bush won the election in 2000 although some left wingers steal contend that the election was stolen. How do we know that it was not? For that matter, how do we know that George Washington won the election to become the first President of the U.S. or that any of the other President's won their elections.

We trust those who count the votes... why? Have they done anything to earn our trust? Same thing goes for the Peace Prize committee. How do we honestly know that anyone nominated Barack Obama before 2/1/09?

Now in all truthfulness, it really doesn't matter, but that award has always been a prestigious award but it cheapens the award when people who do not deserve it are presented with it. It is like giving the Super Bowl trophy to the Detroit Lions last year when they didn't win a single game simply because we feel sorry for them. What would the Lombardi Trophy mean to Detroit then?

Immie

I have no doubt that one of his suckups nominated him.

Anyone can get nominated. Rush Limbaugh was nominated.

rush limbaugh was not nominated.

 

[paperview]

As I stated, I have no idea who made the nomination. I used Nancy Pelosi as an example to point out how preposterous the idea was.

But this leads me to a question. How do we even know that anyone nominated him at all? How do we know that it was not simply the committee that decided to award him the prize in order to achieve their own goals?

George W. Bush won the election in 2000 although some left wingers steal contend that the election was stolen. How do we know that it was not? For that matter, how do we know that George Washington won the election to become the first President of the U.S. or that any of the other President's won their elections.

We trust those who count the votes... why? Have they done anything to earn our trust? Same thing goes for the Peace Prize committee. How do we honestly know that anyone nominated Barack Obama before 2/1/09?

Now in all truthfulness, it really doesn't matter, but that award has always been a prestigious award but it cheapens the award when people who do not deserve it are presented with it. It is like giving the Super Bowl trophy to the Detroit Lions last year when they didn't win a single game simply because we feel sorry for them. What would the Lombardi Trophy mean to Detroit then?

Immie

I have no doubt that one of his suckups nominated him.

Anyone can get nominated. Rush Limbaugh was nominated.

rush limbaugh was not nominated.

That statement cannot be said with absolute accuracy.

The nominations are kept secret for 50 years.

(Though I doubt he was)

 

[paperview]

The poster might be referring to the idiot Mark Levin nominating Limbaugh last year.

It was a joke. Levine was not a recognized nominator.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

I disagree. If this prize benefits anyone, it will be Republicans who will use it to highlight the great disparity between the expectations Obama's speeches create and the lack of accomplishments he delivers. I think for most Americans this award will only serve to make the Nobel committee look foolish.

That only works on the politically educated. If we don't use this opportunity to openly ridicule the Nobel Committee, to MAKE them the global laughingstocks they risked being... they succeed in elevating Barack Obama to the stature of Mother Theresa.

If we allow this high-handed manipulation to pass without mainstreaming the truth of it, to the point where even the most politically naive amongst us can see it for what it is... they win.

If a populace expects to be uneducated and free, it expects what never was and never will be. - Thomas Jefferson

There are many people who think Obama has a vision of hope for America. These people are ignorant of history and blinded by hate.
Should Obama pass his plans.
they will be very difficult to undue ,

the Nation will be lost to a tyranny of needs and wants.

 

[L.K.Eder]

The poster might be referring to the idiot Mark Levin nominating Limbaugh last year.

It was a joke. Levine was not a recognized nominator.

you are right, with both posts. technically i will have to wait 50 years before i can prove that limbaugh was not nominated.

i can now prove that stalin was nominated.