Possible Causes and Solutions to the California Drought

[Silhouette]

No, for sure... perhaps these moonbats in Sacramento should lay off the drugs and come back top reality? They've totally fucked up the whole state with their insane policies.

That appears to be the case. What do you think about replenishing the Owen's Lakebed/underlying aquifer that continues up to Mono Lake? The microclimate and stalling effect of that evaporation causing more precipitation over the Sierra Range?

 

[Silhouette]

Looks like the idiot patrol that runs California wants some fed funds to match. California Proposes 1 Billion Drought Relief Plan As State Enters Fourth Dry Year I found this comment particularly funny:

"We need to get the money out the door now for shovel-ready projects and existing water programs that only need funding to get started," Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de Leon said. "No delay. No red tape."

So...they're not actually going to confront the real problems; just bandaids for a severed artery:

"We maximize the water we do have if we can direct the flood waters in a way that's safe for communities," said Assemblyman Marc Levine, a San Rafael Democrat who chairs a water committee.
More immediate funding includes $20 million for additional emergency drinking water for communities with dry wells; $24 million for food banks; and $16 million to help fish and animals threatened by vanishing streams and rivers.
Unemployment in the agricultural Central Valley has reached 14 percent and domestic wells are running dry in a handful of parched communities such as East Porterville, where the state has already spent $500,000 to provide bottled water for 290 families.

Brown said the drought has highlighted fundamental questions about how the state uses water and will require Californians to adopt innovative solutions...

...hmmmm... "Fundamental questions" about use...getting warmer..

The water in the Sierra Nevada snowpack — California's largest water source — is far below normal. Some drought observers fear it may never return to normal, requiring a fundamental change to California water policy.

Bingo! "Dear Los Angeles...how shall we put this?...um..er..eh.."

Brown said he's prepared to ramp up action if the drought gets worse.
"Don't have any doubts. We are going to increasingly control the use of water to the point where you have to get a lot more efficient, it's going to be expensive and everyone has got to do their part, and they will," Brown said.

ooooh...strong words from Gerry. Let's see if he has the stones to tell the LA fathers that their straw in the Owens Valley is conditional to emergency supply only?

 

[westwall]

A twistedly-funny thought just occurred to me: Los Angeles is destroying the United States! Why does that come as no shock to me? That's where Hollywood is also..

I'm curious. How many billions of dollars does Hollywood bring into the country? More than many Red States?

How much money in agriculture does California bring in for itself and for strategic food trade on the world market?

Hollywood doesn't have to skip a step. It can turn to desalination to fill its reservoirs. PLENTY of sunshine over there and PLENTY of ocean water to distil.

it works in the mid east. the environmentalists in Cal must not like abusing the ocean by desalinating it.

I wonder if it had occurred to any of you retards that desalinization is very expensive, it requires a lot of energy. The Navy usually does it with nuclear reactors.

sure its expensive and takes a lot of power. How about using the power from that solar panel farm in the Cal desert?---------------oh, thats right, it was never built because the envirowackos said it might endanger a lizard.

Liberals--------------save the lizards, screw the humans.

Hell, the one they built in Nevada, doesn't work.

 

[Silhouette]

sure its expensive and takes a lot of power. How about using the power from that solar panel farm in the Cal desert?---------------oh, thats right, it was never built because the envirowackos said it might endanger a lizard.

Liberals--------------save the lizards, screw the humans.

Hell, the one they built in Nevada, doesn't work.

Solar farm or solar thermal steam generation? Which one of those two completely different technologies are you talking about?

 

[Redfish]

I'm curious. How many billions of dollars does Hollywood bring into the country? More than many Red States?

How much money in agriculture does California bring in for itself and for strategic food trade on the world market?

Hollywood doesn't have to skip a step. It can turn to desalination to fill its reservoirs. PLENTY of sunshine over there and PLENTY of ocean water to distil.

it works in the mid east. the environmentalists in Cal must not like abusing the ocean by desalinating it.

I wonder if it had occurred to any of you retards that desalinization is very expensive, it requires a lot of energy. The Navy usually does it with nuclear reactors.

sure its expensive and takes a lot of power. How about using the power from that solar panel farm in the Cal desert?---------------oh, thats right, it was never built because the envirowackos said it might endanger a lizard.

Liberals--------------save the lizards, screw the humans.

Hell, the one they built in Nevada, doesn't work.

they work when the environmental wackos let them be built, but building solar panels takes a lot of fossil fuel energy to melt silicon etc. so the net saving is somewhere in the future

 

[Silhouette]

..they work when the environmental wackos let them be built, but building solar panels takes a lot of fossil fuel energy to melt silicon etc. so the net saving is somewhere in the future

SOLAR THERMAL STEAM IS NOT EVEN REMOTELY LIKE SOLAR PANELS. I swear you guys are on payroll!

 

[Redfish]

..they work when the environmental wackos let them be built, but building solar panels takes a lot of fossil fuel energy to melt silicon etc. so the net saving is somewhere in the future

SOLAR THERMAL STEAM IS NOT EVEN REMOTELY LIKE SOLAR PANELS. I swear you guys are on payroll!

I never said they were the same thing. someone may have implied that, but it wasn't me.

 

[Mr Natural]

It only took eight posts before a rant about illegals drinking too much water and taking too many baths.

 

[Silhouette]

..they work when the environmental wackos let them be built, but building solar panels takes a lot of fossil fuel energy to melt silicon etc. so the net saving is somewhere in the future

SOLAR THERMAL STEAM IS NOT EVEN REMOTELY LIKE SOLAR PANELS.

I swear you guys are on payroll!

I never said they were the same thing. someone may have implied that, but it wasn't me.

Well how do you feel about desalinating using solar thermal steam power or evaporative technologies? Let's leave reverse-osmosis and solar panels out of the discussion since they are as cost effective as pissing in the wind.

 

[Silhouette]

The Governor of California has woken up. Let's hope he doesn't go to sleep when it comes to HOW Southern Cal should desalinate. Big Energy will push him to desalinate using engineered-to-fail solar projects (so you should burn coal or oil ..or even restart nuclear!) & energy-expensive reverse osmosis; while sound solar thermal and evaporative techniques are a fraction of that cost.

Nearly year-round sunshine means nearly free year round desalination for So Cal. Don't blow the second half Gerry!

 

[Dot Com]

**Please don't talk about how illegal aliens are causing the drought. They may be exacerbating it, but they are not causing it by themselves...ridiculous..!

No mystery to it. The cause is 10 million illegal alien squatters in the state and the solution is to make them leave by going after the companies that hire them and by ending their govt benefits such as welfare and free school and free health care

They'll then leave on their own.

^ sure enough, idiotboi chimes in :facepalm:

 

[Silhouette]

There's no doubt illegals are exacerbating the problem. Every body taking a shower, drinking, washing their car, their clothes & flushing a toilet is helping to drain the Owens Valley Aquifer. Hispanic/catholic families are famous for having large numbers of children and growing exponentially in population therefore. The issue can't be ignored. But at the same time the policies in place favoring LA's use of the water of the valleys east of the Sierras over the needs of and to the detriment of the State as a whole (and the nation by extension if my theories in the OP are correct) are at the root of the problem to begin with.

Municipalities cannot be allowed in the West or anywhere else to grow beyond their areas reasonable water use. It just so happens that this longstanding misuse of lands and water rights has an easy fix: The Pacific Ocean and endless sunshine to facilitate solar thermal desalination.

Fill those reservoirs that are empty in So. Cal with the ocean and the sun. Then LA can go back to its green lawns and swimming pools. The High Sierras can return to their glacier-slathered peaks and reliable Summer storms & cooler temperatures. The Central Valley can keep its almond orchards. The Midwest doesn't have to contend with high unexpected flooding growing worse each year. And maybe even less snow in the East in Winter? Who knows how far-reaching the "skip" over the Sierras and California that Pacific moist air is screwing things up?

Everybody wins.

 

[Silhouette]

If any of you become thrilled that Mono Lake and the Owens Lake begin filling up with water again....I'm accepting donations for years of hard work and blogging while enduring endless verbal abuse the entire time. All for free. I wouldn't mind retiring with enough money to where I don't have to search the pockets of pants while doing the laundry to get enough money for flour that month.

 

[Unkotare]

Scientists and engineers gave us this amazing hi-tech world we live in.

Which one are you?

 

[Silhouette]

Scientists and engineers gave us this amazing hi-tech world we live in.

Which one are you?

Someone who quite possibly helped spur the new debate in California about the Owens Valley. I believe I could be called "a drought observer" if you want to get technical.

The water in the Sierra Nevada snowpack — California's largest water source — is far below normal. Some drought observers fear it may never return to normal, requiring a fundamental change to California water policy. California Proposes 1 Billion Drought Relief Plan As State Enters Fourth Dry Year

That article was run less than a week after the date of the OP of this thread.

Just sayin'

Better question: What have you contributed to the topic here? Or any topic you've posted in for that matter?

You are the king of trolls.

 

[Unkotare]

Scientists and engineers gave us this amazing hi-tech world we live in.

Which one are you?

Someone who quite possibly helped spur the new debate in California about the Owens Valley. I believe I could be called "a drought observer" if you want to get technical.

I wasn't asking you, ya fucking moron.

 

[Silhouette]

Well that would be a first. But your warm sentiments on the correction are noted. You are a troll anyway. Care to take a stab at the actual topic here?

 

[Silhouette]

Yeah, didn't think so.

 

[Unkotare]

Yeah, didn't think so.

Do you 'think' Tokyo is empty yet, genius?

 

[Silhouette]

Yeah, didn't think so.

Do you 'think' Tokyo is empty yet, genius?

Do you think Tokyo is devoid of elevated radioactivity in the soils and groundwater that is harmful to children, genius?