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So then no church has a civic duty to the state as you claim and they can refuse to perform marriage ceremonies at any time.Because it would be a perversion of marriage as God intended.
The church really just witnesses the documentation for the state, seeing that it's properly done.
The church is a spiritual organism, not an identifiable organization.
Its not just books. They do it with statues,pop culture icons ,popular movies and TV shows from the past,comic books etc.You're an idiot. Liberal f*tards are doing these things, whether you are too false / too stupid to admit it or not.
A civic duty doesn't imply being an agent of the state in any way.So then no church has a civic duty to the state as you claim and they can refuse to perform marriage ceremonies at any time.
And no church should be given any authority by the state to oversee anything because they can refuse to perform those duties at their whim.
Ever hear of "tares"? Every church has them, some more tares than wheat.No such thing as a "spiritual organism"
Churches are institutions
The wheat is the spiritual organism within the church.
If the church will not be beholden to the standards of nondiscrimination that state governments are then they have no business overseeing any legal matters of the state like marriages.A civic duty doesn't imply being an agent of the state in any way.
Long standing beliefs supported by scripture as well as church doctrine are not "whims".
Ever hear of "tares"? Every church has them, some more tares than wheat.
Exactly! Peripheral issues vs. core tenents of the Faith. Things like King James only vs. modern Bible translations, speaking in tongues, worship music etc. are not issues that would necessarily divide the church.The true church doesn't remain divided in important matters. Most differences are inconsequential.
So pastors who adhere to the Bible should be forced to wed couples in clear violation of the Scriptures then?If the church will not be beholden to the standards of nondiscrimination that state governments are then they have no business overseeing any legal matters of the state like marriages.
No but they should have absolutely no state authorized powers .So pastors who adhere to the Bible should be forced to wed couples in clear violation of the Scriptures then?
but they do often vehementlyExactly! Peripheral issues vs. core tenents of the Faith. Things like King James only vs. modern Bible translations, speaking in tongues, worship music etc. are not issues that would necessarily divide the church.
That's the beauty of the US. No redundancy. And that's exactly what those Eurotrash countries do.No but they should have absolutely no state authorized powers .
IOW the state should not recognize religious marriage and a civil ratification of the marriage is the only one that is legal.
In many other countries people who want a religious marriage must also present themselves to the civil courts to make that marriage legal
True, but in the end, what unifies us is our mission: To bring people to the Cross.but they do often vehemently
That's the beauty of the US. No redundancy. And that's exactly what those Eurotrash countries do.
True, but in the end, what unifies us is our mission: To bring people to the Cross.
But that is exactly what you sicko Leftists want to do. And it does not matter what your beliefs are because they are IRRELEVANT to the Truth.The church should have absolutely no legal authority to do anything for the state because the state cannot legally regulate churches
We do that here, to ensure the protection of marriage under civil laws. In other words, a religious marriage is between man, woman, and God. The civil requirement is between man, woman, and the State. Without State ratification the couple is simply living together in "common law". However, most states determine such long-standing relationships as legal marriages after a period of time.In many other countries people who want a religious marriage must also present themselves to the civil courts to make that marriage legal
The church 'preaches' to its members. It 'appeals' to the unchurched.With varying rules, regulations and teachings.
There is no one true church no one true Christianity maybe you should all get your own acts together before you start preaching to other people.
Methinks you are jaded by the falsehoods of the world. The church is the only repository of truth.With varying rules, regulations and teachings.
There is no one true church no one true Christianity maybe you should all get your own acts together before you start preaching to other people.
The truth is that the church does not need any legal powers granted by the state.But that is exactly what you sicko Leftists want to do. And it does not matter what your beliefs are because they are IRRELEVANT to the Truth.
