Pope Francis effectively admits it: He really, really hates Americans

Wow, this thread is sad. Pope-hate from supposed christians.....
 
Caution------for those who do not know------just as ERDOGAN and ISIS and IRAN seek CALIPHATE-------Francis seeks DA HOLEY ROMAN EMPIRE (REICH)
You're an idiot.

you have a basis for that diagnosis? ------Francis is playing THE POPULIST GAME----he is willing to KISS any ass

He admires you Jews. Some of you Jews are the biggest hypocrites and talk about pedophilia? You do the same thing as the Catholic church send your rabbis to Israel and vice versa.
 
Sounding more and more like a politician and less and less like a pope, Pope Francis threw out this one for his American critics who view him as just a bit too political. According to Fox News:



Pope Francis told a reporter on Wednesday it was an "honor" to be the subject of attacks from American religious conservatives and their Catholic allies.



The pope was speaking with French journalist Nicholas Seneze, the author of "How America Wants to Change Popes," when he responded to his American critics while heading to Mozambique for a three-day tour of sub-Saharan Africa.



His stances on climate change, immigration, homosexuality and theology have garnered heavy criticism from politicians and conservative Catholics and commentators. Some critics have demanded his resignation.
“It’s an honor that the Americans attack me,” the pontiff told Seneze.



Interesting that he characterized his critics as "the Americans" instead of 'the conservatives.' After all, the U.S. Church (and nearly all U.S. religious denominations) actually do have plenty of leftists -- they're actually dominated by them.



Which goes to show just how coldly he views the USA with all its famous freedoms, calling to mind that like the late Venezuelan socialist dictator Hugo Chavez, he's never spent appreciable time in the U.S. He knows nothing of democracy, other than the Peronist balcony-descamisados kind practiced in Argentina with its famous Argentine economic consequences. The U.S. practice of freely speaking one's mind and questioning authority that's failing unsettles him. He gets mad. If he's the good guy, then someone who criticizes him is the devil, which of course is why it's an 'honor.' The U.S. and all its freedom is a bad place, see, but he'd nevertheless like all the world's illegal migrants he claims to champion to somehow be here.






(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...

If Pope Francis really, really hates Americans, I am POSITIVE that make him a DemonRAT!!
Well, American priests are into little boys.....I hate that.
That's been a worldwide issue. That whole church gave themselves over when they ignored what the Bible says thinking they make themselves exempt.

And you know what you have, just the bible. You do not have a church, they are all the same.

Also every church teaches the bible differently, you are a confused Christian, every Catholic Church has the same mass.
 
By Monica Showalter
Sounding more and more like a politician and less and less like a pope, Pope Francis threw out this one for his American critics who view him as just a bit too political. According to Fox News:

She is a liar and that is her opinion. She writes a lot of opinions, not facts, that is why she works for right wing news.

Evangelicals are into politics a lot more than the Catholic Church, and there are a lot more pedophiles in the Protestant group.

(this is based on fact and opinion, just like she does and I didn't go to school to get a Masters degree in journalism)
 
By Monica Showalter
Sounding more and more like a politician and less and less like a pope, Pope Francis threw out this one for his American critics who view him as just a bit too political. According to Fox News:

She is a liar and that is her opinion. She writes a lot of opinions, not facts, that is why she works for right wing news.

Evangelicals are into politics a lot more than the Catholic Church, and there are a lot more pedophiles in the Protestant group.

I agree----Francis acts like a POLITICIAN---not a pope. The issues seem to have been THE POPE----and the problem of priests who violate the vow of celibacy---using their POSITION ------who mentioned "EVANGELISTS and prevalence of pedophilia"??? Or---who mentioned EVANGELICALS and politics?
 
By Monica Showalter
Sounding more and more like a politician and less and less like a pope, Pope Francis threw out this one for his American critics who view him as just a bit too political. According to Fox News:

She is a liar and that is her opinion. She writes a lot of opinions, not facts, that is why she works for right wing news.

Evangelicals are into politics a lot more than the Catholic Church, and there are a lot more pedophiles in the Protestant group.

I agree----Francis acts like a POLITICIAN---not a pope. The issues seem to have been THE POPE----and the problem of priests who violate the vow of celibacy---using their POSITION ------who mentioned "EVANGELISTS and prevalence of pedophilia"??? Or---who mentioned EVANGELICALS and politics?

Are you saying he violated the vow of celibacy?? Give a link for that accusation.
 
By Monica Showalter
Sounding more and more like a politician and less and less like a pope, Pope Francis threw out this one for his American critics who view him as just a bit too political. According to Fox News:

She is a liar and that is her opinion. She writes a lot of opinions, not facts, that is why she works for right wing news.

Evangelicals are into politics a lot more than the Catholic Church, and there are a lot more pedophiles in the Protestant group.

I agree----Francis acts like a POLITICIAN---not a pope. The issues seem to have been THE POPE----and the problem of priests who violate the vow of celibacy---using their POSITION ------who mentioned "EVANGELISTS and prevalence of pedophilia"??? Or---who mentioned EVANGELICALS and politics?

Are you saying he violated the vow of celibacy?? Give a link for that accusation.

Please note, Penelope LIED again----At no point did I come even remotely close to suggesting that Francis violated the oath of celibacy. Josef Goebbels was a liar too
 
Sounding more and more like a politician and less and less like a pope, Pope Francis threw out this one for his American critics who view him as just a bit too political. According to Fox News:



Pope Francis told a reporter on Wednesday it was an "honor" to be the subject of attacks from American religious conservatives and their Catholic allies.



The pope was speaking with French journalist Nicholas Seneze, the author of "How America Wants to Change Popes," when he responded to his American critics while heading to Mozambique for a three-day tour of sub-Saharan Africa.



His stances on climate change, immigration, homosexuality and theology have garnered heavy criticism from politicians and conservative Catholics and commentators. Some critics have demanded his resignation.
“It’s an honor that the Americans attack me,” the pontiff told Seneze.



Interesting that he characterized his critics as "the Americans" instead of 'the conservatives.' After all, the U.S. Church (and nearly all U.S. religious denominations) actually do have plenty of leftists -- they're actually dominated by them.



Which goes to show just how coldly he views the USA with all its famous freedoms, calling to mind that like the late Venezuelan socialist dictator Hugo Chavez, he's never spent appreciable time in the U.S. He knows nothing of democracy, other than the Peronist balcony-descamisados kind practiced in Argentina with its famous Argentine economic consequences. The U.S. practice of freely speaking one's mind and questioning authority that's failing unsettles him. He gets mad. If he's the good guy, then someone who criticizes him is the devil, which of course is why it's an 'honor.' The U.S. and all its freedom is a bad place, see, but he'd nevertheless like all the world's illegal migrants he claims to champion to somehow be here.






(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...

If Pope Francis really, really hates Americans, I am POSITIVE that make him a DemonRAT!!
Well, American priests are into little boys.....I hate that.
That's been a worldwide issue. That whole church gave themselves over when they ignored what the Bible says thinking they make themselves exempt.

And you know what you have, just the bible. You do not have a church, they are all the same.

Also every church teaches the bible differently, you are a confused Christian, every Catholic Church has the same mass.
There is no confusion in knowing beyond a doubt what has been done in the churches to a massive amount of children. Abuse of little ones was covered up and lied about for years. "Call no man father". Your church rules and precepts mean nothing to our father in heaven when anyone tries to exempt themselves from the law and tries to teach another to do the same; these are the lowest.

Matthew 5:19
Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 18:10
Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 18:14
Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

Mark 9:42
And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

Luke 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Jew = those who are of true faith that walk in the Way
Roman 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Luke 21:6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
 
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By Monica Showalter
Sounding more and more like a politician and less and less like a pope, Pope Francis threw out this one for his American critics who view him as just a bit too political. According to Fox News:

She is a liar and that is her opinion. She writes a lot of opinions, not facts, that is why she works for right wing news.

Evangelicals are into politics a lot more than the Catholic Church

Your history is quite thin. Go meet some Jesuits.
 
Sounding more and more like a politician and less and less like a pope, Pope Francis threw out this one for his American critics who view him as just a bit too political. According to Fox News:



Pope Francis told a reporter on Wednesday it was an "honor" to be the subject of attacks from American religious conservatives and their Catholic allies.



The pope was speaking with French journalist Nicholas Seneze, the author of "How America Wants to Change Popes," when he responded to his American critics while heading to Mozambique for a three-day tour of sub-Saharan Africa.



His stances on climate change, immigration, homosexuality and theology have garnered heavy criticism from politicians and conservative Catholics and commentators. Some critics have demanded his resignation.
“It’s an honor that the Americans attack me,” the pontiff told Seneze.



Interesting that he characterized his critics as "the Americans" instead of 'the conservatives.' After all, the U.S. Church (and nearly all U.S. religious denominations) actually do have plenty of leftists -- they're actually dominated by them.



Which goes to show just how coldly he views the USA with all its famous freedoms, calling to mind that like the late Venezuelan socialist dictator Hugo Chavez, he's never spent appreciable time in the U.S. He knows nothing of democracy, other than the Peronist balcony-descamisados kind practiced in Argentina with its famous Argentine economic consequences. The U.S. practice of freely speaking one's mind and questioning authority that's failing unsettles him. He gets mad. If he's the good guy, then someone who criticizes him is the devil, which of course is why it's an 'honor.' The U.S. and all its freedom is a bad place, see, but he'd nevertheless like all the world's illegal migrants he claims to champion to somehow be here.






(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...

If Pope Francis really, really hates Americans, I am POSITIVE that make him a DemonRAT!!
must be all of the market volatility introduced by this administration.

Right wing bigotry cannot be any form of solution.

We should be bearing true witness to our general welfare clause.

We don't have a general badfare, malfare, or warfare clause expressed in our Constitution, only implied by right wing fantasy.
 
By Monica Showalter
Sounding more and more like a politician and less and less like a pope, Pope Francis threw out this one for his American critics who view him as just a bit too political. According to Fox News:

She is a liar and that is her opinion. She writes a lot of opinions, not facts, that is why she works for right wing news.

Evangelicals are into politics a lot more than the Catholic Church, and there are a lot more pedophiles in the Protestant group.

I agree----Francis acts like a POLITICIAN---not a pope. The issues seem to have been THE POPE----and the problem of priests who violate the vow of celibacy---using their POSITION ------who mentioned "EVANGELISTS and prevalence of pedophilia"??? Or---who mentioned EVANGELICALS and politics?

Are you saying he violated the vow of celibacy?? Give a link for that accusation.

Please note, Penelope LIED again----At no point did I come even remotely close to suggesting that Francis violated the oath of celibacy. Josef Goebbels was a liar too

Maybe lied, more likely just daffy. I've found that those on the Left seem to possess internal voices that add things to written and spoken material that simply are not there.
 
1Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.


Matthew 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? 15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. 15:5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; 15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 15:10 And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand: 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. 15:12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? 15:13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. 15:15 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable. 15:16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding? 15:17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: 15:20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.
 
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In my mom's house------eating with unwashed hands -------WAS A BIG NO NO
 
In my mom's house------eating with unwashed hands -------WAS A BIG NO NO
Jesus is talking to the spirit of the Pharisees concerning their ritual portion.

Your mom was correct concerning carrying germs around on those grubby little fingers and getting those germs into the mouth not really a good thing.
 
In my mom's house------eating with unwashed hands -------WAS A BIG NO NO
Jesus is talking to the spirit of the Pharisees concerning their ritual portion.

Your mom was correct concerning carrying germs around on those grubby little fingers and getting those germs into the mouth not really a good thing.

Jesus was a Pharisee.. I do not believe the story------keep in mind----the ROMANS and Hellenists hated the jewish "table customs" Luke never had lunch with Jesus and did not even speak any language that Jesus knew------it is a STORY. If Jesus did not wash his hands at lunch---he was SPITTING in his mother's face------and the
rest of the diners at that table------hand washing is so INGRAINED in the minds of
jewish kids that when the thuggish kid relatives of my Mizrachi hubby visit------I buy extra hand towels--------every bum washes his hands but the custom was a matter of DERISION amongst the romans and later-----even amongst medieval European
Christians, Dr Lister-----who linked lack of handwashing to "childbedfever"----
was castigated as something like a BLASPHEMER. It was actually an EMOTIONAL ISSUE. btw----easterners TOUCH their food------with them
grubby fingers----they may even ----in the course of lunch---TOUCH someone else's food.
 
In my mom's house------eating with unwashed hands -------WAS A BIG NO NO
Jesus is talking to the spirit of the Pharisees concerning their ritual portion.

Your mom was correct concerning carrying germs around on those grubby little fingers and getting those germs into the mouth not really a good thing.

Jesus was a Pharisee.. I do not believe the story------keep in mind----the ROMANS and Hellenists hated the jewish "table customs" Luke never had lunch with Jesus and did not even speak any language that Jesus knew------it is a STORY. If Jesus did not wash his hands at lunch---he was SPITTING in his mother's face------and the
rest of the diners at that table------hand washing is so INGRAINED in the minds of
jewish kids that when the thuggish kid relatives of my Mizrachi hubby visit------I buy extra hand towels--------every bum washes his hands but the custom was a matter of DERISION amongst the romans and later-----even amongst medieval European
Christians, Dr Lister-----who linked lack of handwashing to "childbedfever"----
was castigated as something like a BLASPHEMER. It was actually an EMOTIONAL ISSUE. btw----easterners TOUCH their food------with them
grubby fingers----they may even ----in the course of lunch---TOUCH someone else's food.
Typical response from ya. It is your prerogative to disbelieve and refuse or deny that Jesus was talking about the spirit and their ritual acts. He did not say don't wash your hands. He was telling them just what I just said. I'll rephrase it though in case others are confused. Jesus that Spirit of Jehovah's Salvation with us which is the Word that was with God from the beginning is telling all Pharisees that you can't just say a blessing and have spiritually cleansed your hands from your unrighteous, hypocritical and evil ways and keep abiding in those wicked, evil ways and deeds.


netilat yadayim
Ritual Hand Washing Before Meals | My Jewish Learning

Job 17:9 The righteous also shall hold on his way, and he that hath clean hands shall be stronger and stronger.

Psalm 24:4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
 
In my mom's house------eating with unwashed hands -------WAS A BIG NO NO
Jesus is talking to the spirit of the Pharisees concerning their ritual portion.

Your mom was correct concerning carrying germs around on those grubby little fingers and getting those germs into the mouth not really a good thing.

Jesus was a Pharisee.. I do not believe the story------keep in mind----the ROMANS and Hellenists hated the jewish "table customs" Luke never had lunch with Jesus and did not even speak any language that Jesus knew------it is a STORY. If Jesus did not wash his hands at lunch---he was SPITTING in his mother's face------and the
rest of the diners at that table------hand washing is so INGRAINED in the minds of
jewish kids that when the thuggish kid relatives of my Mizrachi hubby visit------I buy extra hand towels--------every bum washes his hands but the custom was a matter of DERISION amongst the romans and later-----even amongst medieval European
Christians, Dr Lister-----who linked lack of handwashing to "childbedfever"----
was castigated as something like a BLASPHEMER. It was actually an EMOTIONAL ISSUE. btw----easterners TOUCH their food------with them
grubby fingers----they may even ----in the course of lunch---TOUCH someone else's food.
Typical response from ya. It is your prerogative to disbelieve and refuse or deny that Jesus was talking about the spirit and their ritual acts. He did not say don't wash your hands. He was telling them just what I just said. I'll rephrase it though in case others are confused. Jesus that Spirit of Jehovah's Salvation with us which is the Word that was with God from the beginning is telling all Pharisees that you can't just say a blessing and have spiritually cleansed your hands from your unrighteous, hypocritical and evil ways and keep abiding in those wicked, evil ways and deeds.


netilat yadayim
Ritual Hand Washing Before Meals | My Jewish Learning

Job 17:9 The righteous also shall hold on his way, and he that hath clean hands shall be stronger and stronger.

Psalm 24:4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

BS at no point in history has it been a PHARISEE point of view that washing hands expiates sin. In poetry "clean hands" is a SYMBOL----remember POETRY? Luke heard Jesus say all that stuff you claim? Luke spoke
Greek. Jesus did not and Luke was not there. In the NT----SAINT Pontius Pilate is said to wash his hands----and THAT ACT frees him of the guilt
of the approximately 20,000 innocent Pharisees he murdered-----so he is declared a SAINT by the eastern orthodox church. His murdering of Pharisees is his
real ADMIRED FEAT. Can you think of anything GOOD that Pontius Pilate
did that warrants "saint-hood" OTHER THAN MURDERING LOTS OF
PHARISEES? Remember what your sunday school teacher taught you about those lousy rotten Pharisees who screamed
"CRUCIFY HIM" I got bad news for you-----she lied. I don't doubt that someone wrote the stuff------they wrote that which FIT their image of Jesus
and the fact that ROMANS HATED PHARISEES including Jesus (the Pharisee)
until he was dead and they could reinvent him. ---try to keep in mind---if it does
not make sense----it is probably not true. . I learned about Christianity in
churches and from christians-----there was no religion in my childhood home and I never attended anything like "jewish school" or "jewish camp"
 
In my mom's house------eating with unwashed hands -------WAS A BIG NO NO
Jesus is talking to the spirit of the Pharisees concerning their ritual portion.

Your mom was correct concerning carrying germs around on those grubby little fingers and getting those germs into the mouth not really a good thing.

Jesus was a Pharisee.. I do not believe the story------keep in mind----the ROMANS and Hellenists hated the jewish "table customs" Luke never had lunch with Jesus and did not even speak any language that Jesus knew------it is a STORY. If Jesus did not wash his hands at lunch---he was SPITTING in his mother's face------and the
rest of the diners at that table------hand washing is so INGRAINED in the minds of
jewish kids that when the thuggish kid relatives of my Mizrachi hubby visit------I buy extra hand towels--------every bum washes his hands but the custom was a matter of DERISION amongst the romans and later-----even amongst medieval European
Christians, Dr Lister-----who linked lack of handwashing to "childbedfever"----
was castigated as something like a BLASPHEMER. It was actually an EMOTIONAL ISSUE. btw----easterners TOUCH their food------with them
grubby fingers----they may even ----in the course of lunch---TOUCH someone else's food.
Typical response from ya. It is your prerogative to disbelieve and refuse or deny that Jesus was talking about the spirit and their ritual acts. He did not say don't wash your hands. He was telling them just what I just said. I'll rephrase it though in case others are confused. Jesus that Spirit of Jehovah's Salvation with us which is the Word that was with God from the beginning is telling all Pharisees that you can't just say a blessing and have spiritually cleansed your hands from your unrighteous, hypocritical and evil ways and keep abiding in those wicked, evil ways and deeds.


netilat yadayim
Ritual Hand Washing Before Meals | My Jewish Learning

Job 17:9 The righteous also shall hold on his way, and he that hath clean hands shall be stronger and stronger.

Psalm 24:4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

BS at no point in history has it been a PHARISEE point of view that washing hands expiates sin. In poetry "clean hands" is a SYMBOL----remember POETRY? Luke heard Jesus say all that stuff you claim? Luke spoke
Greek. Jesus did not and Luke was not there. In the NT----SAINT Pontius Pilate is said to wash his hands----and THAT ACT frees him of the guilt
of the approximately 20,000 innocent Pharisees he murdered-----so he is declared a SAINT by the eastern orthodox church. His murdering of Pharisees is his
real ADMIRED FEAT. Can you think of anything GOOD that Pontius Pilate
did that warrants "saint-hood" OTHER THAN MURDERING LOTS OF
PHARISEES? Remember what your sunday school teacher taught you about those lousy rotten Pharisees who screamed
"CRUCIFY HIM" I got bad news for you-----she lied. I don't doubt that someone wrote the stuff------they wrote that which FIT their image of Jesus
and the fact that ROMANS HATED PHARISEES including Jesus (the Pharisee)
until he was dead and they could reinvent him. ---try to keep in mind---if it does
not make sense----it is probably not true. . I learned about Christianity in
churches and from christians-----there was no religion in my childhood home and I never attended anything like "jewish school" or "jewish camp"
Where does guilt come from???

When did you make Pontius a saint?

You are the only one claiming what I have learned or have been given to understand came from "sunday school".

You said you don't believe in Jesus so your ramblings are moot.
 
Sounding more and more like a politician and less and less like a pope, Pope Francis threw out this one for his American critics who view him as just a bit too political. According to Fox News:



Pope Francis told a reporter on Wednesday it was an "honor" to be the subject of attacks from American religious conservatives and their Catholic allies.



The pope was speaking with French journalist Nicholas Seneze, the author of "How America Wants to Change Popes," when he responded to his American critics while heading to Mozambique for a three-day tour of sub-Saharan Africa.



His stances on climate change, immigration, homosexuality and theology have garnered heavy criticism from politicians and conservative Catholics and commentators. Some critics have demanded his resignation.
“It’s an honor that the Americans attack me,” the pontiff told Seneze.



Interesting that he characterized his critics as "the Americans" instead of 'the conservatives.' After all, the U.S. Church (and nearly all U.S. religious denominations) actually do have plenty of leftists -- they're actually dominated by them.



Which goes to show just how coldly he views the USA with all its famous freedoms, calling to mind that like the late Venezuelan socialist dictator Hugo Chavez, he's never spent appreciable time in the U.S. He knows nothing of democracy, other than the Peronist balcony-descamisados kind practiced in Argentina with its famous Argentine economic consequences. The U.S. practice of freely speaking one's mind and questioning authority that's failing unsettles him. He gets mad. If he's the good guy, then someone who criticizes him is the devil, which of course is why it's an 'honor.' The U.S. and all its freedom is a bad place, see, but he'd nevertheless like all the world's illegal migrants he claims to champion to somehow be here.






(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...

If Pope Francis really, really hates Americans, I am POSITIVE that make him a DemonRAT!!


What causes conservative religious people to be so thin skinned and act like victims?
 
In my mom's house------eating with unwashed hands -------WAS A BIG NO NO
Jesus is talking to the spirit of the Pharisees concerning their ritual portion.

Your mom was correct concerning carrying germs around on those grubby little fingers and getting those germs into the mouth not really a good thing.

Jesus was a Pharisee.. I do not believe the story------keep in mind----the ROMANS and Hellenists hated the jewish "table customs" Luke never had lunch with Jesus and did not even speak any language that Jesus knew------it is a STORY. If Jesus did not wash his hands at lunch---he was SPITTING in his mother's face------and the
rest of the diners at that table------hand washing is so INGRAINED in the minds of
jewish kids that when the thuggish kid relatives of my Mizrachi hubby visit------I buy extra hand towels--------every bum washes his hands but the custom was a matter of DERISION amongst the romans and later-----even amongst medieval European
Christians, Dr Lister-----who linked lack of handwashing to "childbedfever"----
was castigated as something like a BLASPHEMER. It was actually an EMOTIONAL ISSUE. btw----easterners TOUCH their food------with them
grubby fingers----they may even ----in the course of lunch---TOUCH someone else's food.
Typical response from ya. It is your prerogative to disbelieve and refuse or deny that Jesus was talking about the spirit and their ritual acts. He did not say don't wash your hands. He was telling them just what I just said. I'll rephrase it though in case others are confused. Jesus that Spirit of Jehovah's Salvation with us which is the Word that was with God from the beginning is telling all Pharisees that you can't just say a blessing and have spiritually cleansed your hands from your unrighteous, hypocritical and evil ways and keep abiding in those wicked, evil ways and deeds.


netilat yadayim
Ritual Hand Washing Before Meals | My Jewish Learning

Job 17:9 The righteous also shall hold on his way, and he that hath clean hands shall be stronger and stronger.

Psalm 24:4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

BS at no point in history has it been a PHARISEE point of view that washing hands expiates sin. In poetry "clean hands" is a SYMBOL----remember POETRY? Luke heard Jesus say all that stuff you claim? Luke spoke
Greek. Jesus did not and Luke was not there. In the NT----SAINT Pontius Pilate is said to wash his hands----and THAT ACT frees him of the guilt
of the approximately 20,000 innocent Pharisees he murdered-----so he is declared a SAINT by the eastern orthodox church. His murdering of Pharisees is his
real ADMIRED FEAT. Can you think of anything GOOD that Pontius Pilate
did that warrants "saint-hood" OTHER THAN MURDERING LOTS OF
PHARISEES? Remember what your sunday school teacher taught you about those lousy rotten Pharisees who screamed
"CRUCIFY HIM" I got bad news for you-----she lied. I don't doubt that someone wrote the stuff------they wrote that which FIT their image of Jesus
and the fact that ROMANS HATED PHARISEES including Jesus (the Pharisee)
until he was dead and they could reinvent him. ---try to keep in mind---if it does
not make sense----it is probably not true. . I learned about Christianity in
churches and from christians-----there was no religion in my childhood home and I never attended anything like "jewish school" or "jewish camp"
Where does guilt come from???

When did you make Pontius a saint?

You are the only one claiming what I have learned or have been given to understand came from "sunday school".

You said you don't believe in Jesus so your ramblings are moot.

I did not make Pontius Pilate a saint-----he is so named in the GREEK ORTHODOX CHURCH. I don't understand your question "where does
guilt come from..." I don't "believe in.....Jesus" ?? It is not clear to me
what that means. I learned about Christianity living in a very protestant and catholic Christian town thruout childhood---and
about "greek orthodoxy" from persons of Serbian, Syrian and Egyptian family
background. I learned about 'sunday school' in a protestant church. Getting
back to Jesus------I know about him and the Roman/greek history about him from the New Testament.
As to the Greek and Roman view point on jewish hand washing and Jesus------it's comic, in my opinion
 

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