Pools kill more people each year than AR-15 rifles...time to ban pools...right?

[Rustic]

lol
You’re Obsessed with penis just like Joe...
Just because a weapon looks like a military weapon does not mean it is a military weapon... You cannot judge a book by its cover

Trophy hunting is invaluable to game populations, First of all it only excepts the best genetics. It culls out the worst genetics, it allows the best animals to pass their Genetics to the herd for the longest possible time.
If you had any common sense, You would realize trophy hunting only allows for the best genetics. That’s what it’s all about.
As an example, A mule deer is in its prime Between the ages of 2 1/2 to 6 years old. As a trophy Hunter you want to wait till it hits its peak before you harvest the animal. That way it passes It’s genetics to the most does possible.
Once the mule deer goes past its peak that is where the bad genetics will hurt the game population.

And no one’s going to spend any money to harvest substandard mule deer...

Trophy hunting is all about improving the game species for future harvesting… He can’t get any more simple than that. Lol

obviously you dont know shit about trophy hunting,,,they always take the biggest and healthiest,,,thats why its called a trophy and not food,,heck even some of the pricks dont even keep the meat and give it away,,,

they never take the unhealthy or runts,,,

like I said real people that hunt for food do the same thing

you never said,,what military are you talking about??? cause its all a matter of money and resources that determine what weapon you carry,,,sure an M-5 is better than a AR,,and some are better than an M-5,,,

but I would rather have an AR than a 22 or bolt action,,,

guns were created for the purpose of killing or war, what you decide to do with them other than that is your business

lol
You need to educate yourself, The best animals will be able to spread their genes to the most Females With trophy hunting. Then before they decline they are harvesting.

As an example, The mule deer that I harvested last year on public land. I watched him for three seasons. He passed his genes along to who knows how many does in those three years before his decline.
Without trophy hunting some joker would’ve shot him when he was two years old most likely.
M-5?
You do realize ARs are available in most every cartridge? Get a grip man you don’t know what you’re talking about. Lol

m5 I think is what the military carries,,I dont know for sure but it doesnt matter,,,
whats the cartridge got to do with it???

what did I say thats not correct???

almost every major advancement in gun tech throughout history was because of military use,,,ie killing,,,

You mean m-4 Carbine?
You really didn’t ask that did you? what does it matter what cartridge?
ARs don’t shoot a specific cartridge/caliber... lol

If you would do some research you would realize that Ars and the like are no different than any other sporting rifle. Available in a multitude of cartridges/calibers and one pull of the trigger = one shot

I never said they did,,,what I said is this qualifier of saying its a sporting rifle,,,assault rifle,,, is anti 2nd A bullshit and has led to more gun laws,,,

weapons of war is relative to the war and whos fighting it,,,and any gun will do even an AR if thats all you got,,,I prefer a mini 14 myself

the 2nd under its original intent was for any weapon thats why it said arms and not guns,,,

There can be no compromise when it comes to Second Amendment and small arms... Plus progressives want to take everything away and eliminate the second amendment... Giving In on ar15’s Is the worst thing that we can do… It will be just the start of a landslide... lol
AR-15 (CMMG M4 LE) and Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Carbines compared

 

[Nosmo King]

Deadly weapon/swimming pool

Is it that hard to tell the difference?

One was engineered to provide excerise, fun and relaxation. The other was engineered to kill as many people as quickly as possible.

Is it that hard to tell the difference?

It doesn't matter one is the actual cause of deaths by drowning it doesn't take a person to make you drown in a pool

The other all by itself cannot harm anyone and must be wielded by a person

Like a Car.

or a knife or a baseball bat etc

People like to say a gun is designed to kill therefore that is the purpose of a gun.

I disagree with that and say that it is the person who is using the tool that defines the purpose of the tool.

What is the real purpose of a semi-automatic firing systemfed by a high capacity magazine? A machine that propels large amounts of lead at high velocity. What could we do with that?

The real purpose...to save the life of the owner of the rifle. Either by stopping a violent attacker or used for hunting to provide food.

A bit over engineered

 

[Rustic]

It doesn't matter one is the actual cause of deaths by drowning it doesn't take a person to make you drown in a pool

The other all by itself cannot harm anyone and must be wielded by a person

Like a Car.

or a knife or a baseball bat etc

People like to say a gun is designed to kill therefore that is the purpose of a gun.

I disagree with that and say that it is the person who is using the tool that defines the purpose of the tool.

What is the real purpose of a semi-automatic firing systemfed by a high capacity magazine? A machine that propels large amounts of lead at high velocity. What could we do with that?

The real purpose...to save the life of the owner of the rifle. Either by stopping a violent attacker or used for hunting to provide food.

A bit over engineered

Lol
Are you fucking retarded? there’s nothing over engineered about that, it’s a simple as it gets you fucking retard.

 

[progressive hunter]

obviously you dont know shit about trophy hunting,,,they always take the biggest and healthiest,,,thats why its called a trophy and not food,,heck even some of the pricks dont even keep the meat and give it away,,,

they never take the unhealthy or runts,,,

like I said real people that hunt for food do the same thing

you never said,,what military are you talking about??? cause its all a matter of money and resources that determine what weapon you carry,,,sure an M-5 is better than a AR,,and some are better than an M-5,,,

but I would rather have an AR than a 22 or bolt action,,,

guns were created for the purpose of killing or war, what you decide to do with them other than that is your business

lol
You need to educate yourself, The best animals will be able to spread their genes to the most Females With trophy hunting. Then before they decline they are harvesting.

As an example, The mule deer that I harvested last year on public land. I watched him for three seasons. He passed his genes along to who knows how many does in those three years before his decline.
Without trophy hunting some joker would’ve shot him when he was two years old most likely.
M-5?
You do realize ARs are available in most every cartridge? Get a grip man you don’t know what you’re talking about. Lol

m5 I think is what the military carries,,I dont know for sure but it doesnt matter,,,
whats the cartridge got to do with it???

what did I say thats not correct???

almost every major advancement in gun tech throughout history was because of military use,,,ie killing,,,

You mean m-4 Carbine?
You really didn’t ask that did you? what does it matter what cartridge?
ARs don’t shoot a specific cartridge/caliber... lol

If you would do some research you would realize that Ars and the like are no different than any other sporting rifle. Available in a multitude of cartridges/calibers and one pull of the trigger = one shot

I never said they did,,,what I said is this qualifier of saying its a sporting rifle,,,assault rifle,,, is anti 2nd A bullshit and has led to more gun laws,,,

weapons of war is relative to the war and whos fighting it,,,and any gun will do even an AR if thats all you got,,,I prefer a mini 14 myself

the 2nd under its original intent was for any weapon thats why it said arms and not guns,,,

There can be no compromise when it comes to Second Amendment and small arms... Plus progressives want to take everything away and eliminate the second amendment... Giving In on ar15’s Is the worst thing that we can do… It will be just the start of a landslide... lol
AR-15 (CMMG M4 LE) and Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Carbines compared

correct,,and is why I say we need to stop the word games and stand up for its original intent and be very clear about it,,,

also I love my mini and would walk into hell itself with it


mini 14 against the world - YouTube

 

[Rustic]

lol
You need to educate yourself, The best animals will be able to spread their genes to the most Females With trophy hunting. Then before they decline they are harvesting.

As an example, The mule deer that I harvested last year on public land. I watched him for three seasons. He passed his genes along to who knows how many does in those three years before his decline.
Without trophy hunting some joker would’ve shot him when he was two years old most likely.
M-5?
You do realize ARs are available in most every cartridge? Get a grip man you don’t know what you’re talking about. Lol

m5 I think is what the military carries,,I dont know for sure but it doesnt matter,,,
whats the cartridge got to do with it???

what did I say thats not correct???

almost every major advancement in gun tech throughout history was because of military use,,,ie killing,,,

You mean m-4 Carbine?
You really didn’t ask that did you? what does it matter what cartridge?
ARs don’t shoot a specific cartridge/caliber... lol

If you would do some research you would realize that Ars and the like are no different than any other sporting rifle. Available in a multitude of cartridges/calibers and one pull of the trigger = one shot

I never said they did,,,what I said is this qualifier of saying its a sporting rifle,,,assault rifle,,, is anti 2nd A bullshit and has led to more gun laws,,,

weapons of war is relative to the war and whos fighting it,,,and any gun will do even an AR if thats all you got,,,I prefer a mini 14 myself

the 2nd under its original intent was for any weapon thats why it said arms and not guns,,,

There can be no compromise when it comes to Second Amendment and small arms... Plus progressives want to take everything away and eliminate the second amendment... Giving In on ar15’s Is the worst thing that we can do… It will be just the start of a landslide... lol
AR-15 (CMMG M4 LE) and Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Carbines compared

correct,,and is why I say we need to stop the word games and stand up for its original intent and be very clear about it,,,

also I love my mini and would walk into hell itself with it


mini 14 against the world - YouTube

ARs are an fabulous sporting rifle, You can’t beat them from Prairie dog blasting. It is my favorite platform for antelope hunting, my favorite cartridge for the antelope hunting in 6.8 SPC.
Great ballistic coefficient, Short action, next to no recoil, super cheap/readily available and relatively quiet.

 

[Nosmo King]

Like a Car.

or a knife or a baseball bat etc

People like to say a gun is designed to kill therefore that is the purpose of a gun.

I disagree with that and say that it is the person who is using the tool that defines the purpose of the tool.

What is the real purpose of a semi-automatic firing systemfed by a high capacity magazine? A machine that propels large amounts of lead at high velocity. What could we do with that?

The real purpose...to save the life of the owner of the rifle. Either by stopping a violent attacker or used for hunting to provide food.

A bit over engineered

Lol
Are you fucking retarded? there’s nothing over engineered about that, it’s a simple as it gets you fucking retard.

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[progressive hunter]

m5 I think is what the military carries,,I dont know for sure but it doesnt matter,,,
whats the cartridge got to do with it???

what did I say thats not correct???

almost every major advancement in gun tech throughout history was because of military use,,,ie killing,,,

You mean m-4 Carbine?
You really didn’t ask that did you? what does it matter what cartridge?
ARs don’t shoot a specific cartridge/caliber... lol

If you would do some research you would realize that Ars and the like are no different than any other sporting rifle. Available in a multitude of cartridges/calibers and one pull of the trigger = one shot

I never said they did,,,what I said is this qualifier of saying its a sporting rifle,,,assault rifle,,, is anti 2nd A bullshit and has led to more gun laws,,,

weapons of war is relative to the war and whos fighting it,,,and any gun will do even an AR if thats all you got,,,I prefer a mini 14 myself

the 2nd under its original intent was for any weapon thats why it said arms and not guns,,,

There can be no compromise when it comes to Second Amendment and small arms... Plus progressives want to take everything away and eliminate the second amendment... Giving In on ar15’s Is the worst thing that we can do… It will be just the start of a landslide... lol
AR-15 (CMMG M4 LE) and Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Carbines compared

correct,,and is why I say we need to stop the word games and stand up for its original intent and be very clear about it,,,

also I love my mini and would walk into hell itself with it


mini 14 against the world - YouTube

ARs are an fabulous sporting rifle, You can’t beat them from Prairie dog blasting. It is my favorite platform for antelope hunting, my favorite cartridge for the antelope hunting in 6.8 SPC.
Great ballistic coefficient, Short action, next to no recoil, super cheap/readily available and relatively quiet.

sounds like it would be good in war if thats all you had,,,but if you want to go sporting with it thats your choice,,,

 

[Rambunctious]

 

[Rustic]

You mean m-4 Carbine?
You really didn’t ask that did you? what does it matter what cartridge?
ARs don’t shoot a specific cartridge/caliber... lol

If you would do some research you would realize that Ars and the like are no different than any other sporting rifle. Available in a multitude of cartridges/calibers and one pull of the trigger = one shot

I never said they did,,,what I said is this qualifier of saying its a sporting rifle,,,assault rifle,,, is anti 2nd A bullshit and has led to more gun laws,,,

weapons of war is relative to the war and whos fighting it,,,and any gun will do even an AR if thats all you got,,,I prefer a mini 14 myself

the 2nd under its original intent was for any weapon thats why it said arms and not guns,,,

There can be no compromise when it comes to Second Amendment and small arms... Plus progressives want to take everything away and eliminate the second amendment... Giving In on ar15’s Is the worst thing that we can do… It will be just the start of a landslide... lol
AR-15 (CMMG M4 LE) and Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Carbines compared

correct,,and is why I say we need to stop the word games and stand up for its original intent and be very clear about it,,,

also I love my mini and would walk into hell itself with it


mini 14 against the world - YouTube

ARs are an fabulous sporting rifle, You can’t beat them from Prairie dog blasting. It is my favorite platform for antelope hunting, my favorite cartridge for the antelope hunting in 6.8 SPC.
Great ballistic coefficient, Short action, next to no recoil, super cheap/readily available and relatively quiet.

sounds like it would be good in war if thats all you had,,,but if you want to go sporting with it thats your choice,,,

Actually the 6.8 SPC was designed for urban warfare by the US military. It’s based off the .30 Remington cartridge necked down.
6.8mm Remington SPC - Wikipedia

But it is very well-suited for medium game like antelope.

 

[Slyhunter]

The anti-gun logic goes....people are killed by AR-15 rifles....we must ban AR-15 rifles....

So...using that kind of insane logic....pools kill more people....a lot more people.....than AR-15 rifles each and every year...therefore...we need to ban pools.....

People killed by all rifle types in 2017....403

People killed by pools every year? Over 3,500

No One Really Needs to Have a Pool in Their Yard - The Truth About Guns

In the news recently, was another celebrity toddler drowning. As horrible as that is, this tragedy was one of over 3500 unintentional drownings that occur yearly in the U.S. , not counting boating accidents. Skier Bode Miller‘s family experienced a similar heartache just last year.


Why am I bringing up these horrible toddler deaths on a gun page? Because child death by drowning is a far bigger problem than child death by firearms. In fact as the CDC itself states: “Drowning is responsible for more deaths among children 1-4 than any other cause except congenital anomalies (birth defects). Among those 1-14, fatal drowning remains the second-leading cause of unintentional injury-related death behind motor vehicle crashes.”

Yet you wouldn’t know that by the amount of noise we hear from the American Academy of Pediatrics and other medical societies about firearms versus what we hear about water safety.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has recently updated their policy statement regarding drowning and has a web page which includes a list of Swim Safety Tips.

The tips run the gamut from ways to secure your pool, to CPR training for adults, to safety equipment that should be available near a pool.

You know what is conspicuously absent from all of this advice? Telling parents to NOT have a pool, to NOT buy a boat, and to NEVER EVER go to the beach or lake.

Another conspicuous absence is the lobbying of government officials to place ever greater restrictions on swimming pools, boats, and bodies of natural water large and small, and even to ban some pools and boats completely.

Also absent is the demonization of the bathtub industry and the pool lobby, bills to sue pool manufacturers for deaths that they callously enable, and the advice to grill other parents about their pool habits and if there is any standing water or toilets where children play.

Deadly weapon/swimming pool

Is it that hard to tell the difference?

One was engineered to provide excerise, fun and relaxation. The other was engineered to kill as many people as quickly as possible.

Is it that hard to tell the difference?

It doesn't matter one is the actual cause of deaths by drowning it doesn't take a person to make you drown in a pool

The other all by itself cannot harm anyone and must be wielded by a person

Like a Car.

or a knife or a baseball bat etc

People like to say a gun is designed to kill therefore that is the purpose of a gun.

I disagree with that and say that it is the person who is using the tool that defines the purpose of the tool.

What is the real purpose of a semi-automatic firing systemfed by a high capacity magazine? A machine that propels large amounts of lead at high velocity. What could we do with that?

Kill bad people.

 

[Nosmo King]

Deadly weapon/swimming pool

Is it that hard to tell the difference?

One was engineered to provide excerise, fun and relaxation. The other was engineered to kill as many people as quickly as possible.

Is it that hard to tell the difference?

It doesn't matter one is the actual cause of deaths by drowning it doesn't take a person to make you drown in a pool

The other all by itself cannot harm anyone and must be wielded by a person

Like a Car.

or a knife or a baseball bat etc

People like to say a gun is designed to kill therefore that is the purpose of a gun.

I disagree with that and say that it is the person who is using the tool that defines the purpose of the tool.

What is the real purpose of a semi-automatic firing systemfed by a high capacity magazine? A machine that propels large amounts of lead at high velocity. What could we do with that?

Kill bad people.

Are you judge, jury and executioner?

Does a machine give you the power?

 

[progressive hunter]

I never said they did,,,what I said is this qualifier of saying its a sporting rifle,,,assault rifle,,, is anti 2nd A bullshit and has led to more gun laws,,,

weapons of war is relative to the war and whos fighting it,,,and any gun will do even an AR if thats all you got,,,I prefer a mini 14 myself

the 2nd under its original intent was for any weapon thats why it said arms and not guns,,,

There can be no compromise when it comes to Second Amendment and small arms... Plus progressives want to take everything away and eliminate the second amendment... Giving In on ar15’s Is the worst thing that we can do… It will be just the start of a landslide... lol
AR-15 (CMMG M4 LE) and Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Carbines compared

correct,,and is why I say we need to stop the word games and stand up for its original intent and be very clear about it,,,

also I love my mini and would walk into hell itself with it


mini 14 against the world - YouTube

ARs are an fabulous sporting rifle, You can’t beat them from Prairie dog blasting. It is my favorite platform for antelope hunting, my favorite cartridge for the antelope hunting in 6.8 SPC.
Great ballistic coefficient, Short action, next to no recoil, super cheap/readily available and relatively quiet.

sounds like it would be good in war if thats all you had,,,but if you want to go sporting with it thats your choice,,,

Actually the 6.8 SPC was designed for urban warfare by the US military. It’s based off the .30 Remington cartridge necked down.
6.8mm Remington SPC - Wikipedia

But it is very well-suited for medium game like antelope.

for meat I generally use a 45-70 lever action,,,

those high velocity rounds destroy to much meat,,,

 

[Rustic]

There can be no compromise when it comes to Second Amendment and small arms... Plus progressives want to take everything away and eliminate the second amendment... Giving In on ar15’s Is the worst thing that we can do… It will be just the start of a landslide... lol
AR-15 (CMMG M4 LE) and Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Carbines compared

correct,,and is why I say we need to stop the word games and stand up for its original intent and be very clear about it,,,

also I love my mini and would walk into hell itself with it


mini 14 against the world - YouTube

ARs are an fabulous sporting rifle, You can’t beat them from Prairie dog blasting. It is my favorite platform for antelope hunting, my favorite cartridge for the antelope hunting in 6.8 SPC.
Great ballistic coefficient, Short action, next to no recoil, super cheap/readily available and relatively quiet.

sounds like it would be good in war if thats all you had,,,but if you want to go sporting with it thats your choice,,,

Actually the 6.8 SPC was designed for urban warfare by the US military. It’s based off the .30 Remington cartridge necked down.
6.8mm Remington SPC - Wikipedia

But it is very well-suited for medium game like antelope.

for meat I generally use a 45-70 lever action,,,

those high velocity rounds destroy to much meat,,,

I love the 45-70 in lever action, up here on the northern plains it’s not much of a hunting cartridge.

actually an 6.8 SPC is far from an high speed cartridge... It is quite slow.

When I think of high-speed cartridges, I think of 22-250, .220 Swift, .204 Ruger, etc

I would not even consider a .223/5.56 high velocity, More of a medium velocity round if you ask me.

As far as damaging the meat, It depends on the bullet more than anything.

If you have a cartridge that does not expend all of its energy into the animal up here on the northern plains you’re gonna be chasing wounded animals all over the place.

You don’t want cartridges that just blast right through the animal, they can run for miles if that happens up here.

The last two antelope I shot with my 6.8 SPC there was no exit wound. That means all of the energy was spent into the animal. It was like a accordion they dropped in their tracks.

 

[progressive hunter]

correct,,and is why I say we need to stop the word games and stand up for its original intent and be very clear about it,,,

also I love my mini and would walk into hell itself with it


mini 14 against the world - YouTube

ARs are an fabulous sporting rifle, You can’t beat them from Prairie dog blasting. It is my favorite platform for antelope hunting, my favorite cartridge for the antelope hunting in 6.8 SPC.
Great ballistic coefficient, Short action, next to no recoil, super cheap/readily available and relatively quiet.

sounds like it would be good in war if thats all you had,,,but if you want to go sporting with it thats your choice,,,

Actually the 6.8 SPC was designed for urban warfare by the US military. It’s based off the .30 Remington cartridge necked down.
6.8mm Remington SPC - Wikipedia

But it is very well-suited for medium game like antelope.

for meat I generally use a 45-70 lever action,,,

those high velocity rounds destroy to much meat,,,

I love the 45-70 in lever action, up here on the northern plains it’s not much of a hunting cartridge.

actually an 6.8 SPC is far from an high speed cartridge... It is quite slow.

When I think of high-speed cartridges, I think of 22-250, .220 Swift, .204 Ruger, etc

I would not even consider a .223/5.56 high velocity, More of a medium velocity round if you ask me.

As far as damaging the meat, It depends on the bullet more than anything.

If you have a cartridge that does not expend all of its energy into the animal up here on the northern plains you’re gonna be chasing wounded animals all over the place.

You don’t want cartridges that just blast right through the animal, they can run for miles if that happens up here.

The last two antelope I shot with my 6.8 SPC there was no exit wound. That means all of the energy was spent into the animal. It was like a accordion they dropped in their tracks.

there you go on context agin,,I'm in missouri and the 45-70 is a great brush gun and will shoot 200 yrds no problem,,, any of the HV rnds are useless if they hit a twig,,

the farther east you go they cant use anything but a shotgun because they are so close together,,that would suck,,,

how does antelope taste???

 

[Rustic]

ARs are an fabulous sporting rifle, You can’t beat them from Prairie dog blasting. It is my favorite platform for antelope hunting, my favorite cartridge for the antelope hunting in 6.8 SPC.
Great ballistic coefficient, Short action, next to no recoil, super cheap/readily available and relatively quiet.

sounds like it would be good in war if thats all you had,,,but if you want to go sporting with it thats your choice,,,

Actually the 6.8 SPC was designed for urban warfare by the US military. It’s based off the .30 Remington cartridge necked down.
6.8mm Remington SPC - Wikipedia

But it is very well-suited for medium game like antelope.

for meat I generally use a 45-70 lever action,,,

those high velocity rounds destroy to much meat,,,

I love the 45-70 in lever action, up here on the northern plains it’s not much of a hunting cartridge.

actually an 6.8 SPC is far from an high speed cartridge... It is quite slow.

When I think of high-speed cartridges, I think of 22-250, .220 Swift, .204 Ruger, etc

I would not even consider a .223/5.56 high velocity, More of a medium velocity round if you ask me.

As far as damaging the meat, It depends on the bullet more than anything.

If you have a cartridge that does not expend all of its energy into the animal up here on the northern plains you’re gonna be chasing wounded animals all over the place.

You don’t want cartridges that just blast right through the animal, they can run for miles if that happens up here.

The last two antelope I shot with my 6.8 SPC there was no exit wound. That means all of the energy was spent into the animal. It was like a accordion they dropped in their tracks.

there you go on context agin,,I'm in missouri and the 45-70 is a great brush gun and will shoot 200 yrds no problem,,, any of the HV rnds are useless if they hit a twig,,

the farther east you go they cant use anything but a shotgun because they are so close together,,that would suck,,,

how does antelope taste???

Yes, down there or you would need a brush gun. A 45-70 is as good as they get for brush gun 200 yards and under.

For mule deer I prefer .308 and 7mm.08... The ballistic coefficient is off the charts with these two

Actually It’s one of my favorite, I guess you could call it a bit of acquired taste.

 

[progressive hunter]

sounds like it would be good in war if thats all you had,,,but if you want to go sporting with it thats your choice,,,

Actually the 6.8 SPC was designed for urban warfare by the US military. It’s based off the .30 Remington cartridge necked down.
6.8mm Remington SPC - Wikipedia

But it is very well-suited for medium game like antelope.

for meat I generally use a 45-70 lever action,,,

those high velocity rounds destroy to much meat,,,

I love the 45-70 in lever action, up here on the northern plains it’s not much of a hunting cartridge.

actually an 6.8 SPC is far from an high speed cartridge... It is quite slow.

When I think of high-speed cartridges, I think of 22-250, .220 Swift, .204 Ruger, etc

I would not even consider a .223/5.56 high velocity, More of a medium velocity round if you ask me.

As far as damaging the meat, It depends on the bullet more than anything.

If you have a cartridge that does not expend all of its energy into the animal up here on the northern plains you’re gonna be chasing wounded animals all over the place.

You don’t want cartridges that just blast right through the animal, they can run for miles if that happens up here.

The last two antelope I shot with my 6.8 SPC there was no exit wound. That means all of the energy was spent into the animal. It was like a accordion they dropped in their tracks.

there you go on context agin,,I'm in missouri and the 45-70 is a great brush gun and will shoot 200 yrds no problem,,, any of the HV rnds are useless if they hit a twig,,

the farther east you go they cant use anything but a shotgun because they are so close together,,that would suck,,,

how does antelope taste???

Yes, down there or you would need a brush gun. A 45-70 is as good as they get for brush gun 200 yards and under.

For mule deer I prefer .308 and 7mm.08... The ballistic coefficient is off the charts with these two

Actually It’s one of my favorite, I guess you could call it a bit of acquired taste.

and about terrain,,out there in the west you need something that shoots long and flat,,we just lob em in or use a slingshot for rabbit or tree rat,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

cant we save just one???

California girl, 9, dies after being electrocuted in pool: police

 

[Rustic]

cant we save just one???

California girl, 9, dies after being electrocuted in pool: police

Yep,
We need to ban pools and bathtubs

 

[progressive hunter]

cant we save just one???

California girl, 9, dies after being electrocuted in pool: police

Yep,
We need to ban pools and bathtubs

for some those are the same thing,,,

 

[ph3iron]

The anti-gun logic goes....people are killed by AR-15 rifles....we must ban AR-15 rifles....

So...using that kind of insane logic....pools kill more people....a lot more people.....than AR-15 rifles each and every year...therefore...we need to ban pools.....

People killed by all rifle types in 2017....403

People killed by pools every year? Over 3,500

No One Really Needs to Have a Pool in Their Yard - The Truth About Guns

In the news recently, was another celebrity toddler drowning. As horrible as that is, this tragedy was one of over 3500 unintentional drownings that occur yearly in the U.S. , not counting boating accidents. Skier Bode Miller‘s family experienced a similar heartache just last year.


Why am I bringing up these horrible toddler deaths on a gun page? Because child death by drowning is a far bigger problem than child death by firearms. In fact as the CDC itself states: “Drowning is responsible for more deaths among children 1-4 than any other cause except congenital anomalies (birth defects). Among those 1-14, fatal drowning remains the second-leading cause of unintentional injury-related death behind motor vehicle crashes.”

Yet you wouldn’t know that by the amount of noise we hear from the American Academy of Pediatrics and other medical societies about firearms versus what we hear about water safety.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has recently updated their policy statement regarding drowning and has a web page which includes a list of Swim Safety Tips.

The tips run the gamut from ways to secure your pool, to CPR training for adults, to safety equipment that should be available near a pool.

You know what is conspicuously absent from all of this advice? Telling parents to NOT have a pool, to NOT buy a boat, and to NEVER EVER go to the beach or lake.

Another conspicuous absence is the lobbying of government officials to place ever greater restrictions on swimming pools, boats, and bodies of natural water large and small, and even to ban some pools and boats completely.

Also absent is the demonization of the bathtub industry and the pool lobby, bills to sue pool manufacturers for deaths that they callously enable, and the advice to grill other parents about their pool habits and if there is any standing water or toilets where children play.

Stupid.
One 5 year old killing his sister is one too ,many
Youd flee for the hills from your double wide clutching you guns if the Chinese showed up

Pools kill over 3,500 people every year, including 5 year olds....so as I suggest, we need to ban pools...according to your logic...right?

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