Zone1 Pontius Pilate: An Enigmatic Figure

[BreezeWood]

provide the tablets claimed by the liar moses etched w/ commandments their claim from the heavens never witnessed by anyone than who destroyed them moses - included in all three desert religion bibles.

Why?

- used by all three desert religions to persecute and victimize the innocent - in the name of the heavens and repudiated by the 1st century events, jesus.

 

[alang1216]

They misunderstood the job description. It's one of the things that Jesus corrected along with it's not about rule keeping. It's about relationships. If one's relationship with God is good all other relationships will be good. Rules won't even be necessary.

Sorry but I can't get past the fact that, according to you, the Jews acknowledged Jesus was the Messiah sent by God and they just said, 'no thanks, take him back'.

 

[alang1216]

I disagree. You are blind to it all.

I disagree with your disagreement. I think you are a fine example of 'blind faith'.

 

[ding]

Sorry but I can't get past the fact that, according to you, the Jews acknowledged Jesus was the Messiah sent by God and they just said, 'no thanks, take him back'.

Did I say they acknowledged Jesus as the messiah? I said they connected the dots from the messiah to the king. Clearly they did not accept Jesus as the messiah.

Religious leaders accused Jesus of claiming to be the "King of the Jews" to compel Roman authorities to execute him for sedition, as Jewish leaders lacked the authority to carry out capital punishment. By framing Jesus as an insurrectionist threatening Caesar's authority, they sought to eliminate him, as they did not accept him as the messiah and viewed his popularity with envy.

Key reasons for this accusation included:

• Political Framing: The accusation was designed to make Jesus appear as an enemy of Rome, with the crowd telling Pilate, "Whoever makes himself a king speaks against Caesar".
• Rejection of His Messiahship: The leaders did not believe Jesus was the expected prophetic king; instead, they viewed him as a false teacher and a competitor, particularly due to his popularity with common people.
• Fear of Disruption: The religious leaders believed Jesus was perverting the nation and challenging their established authority.
• Legal Trap: Lacking the authority to perform executions, the Jewish leaders needed a political crime (treason against Rome) rather than a religious crime (blasphemy) to get the Roman governor, Pontius Pilate, to order his death.

The irony of the situation was that while the charge was used to bring about his death, it ultimately highlighted the conflict between his spiritual kingship and the earthly kingdom anticipated by his accusers.

 

[ding]

I disagree with your disagreement. I think you are a fine example of 'blind faith'.

I'm not the one fabricating things that aren't there like Jesus told the disciples he was the king of the Jews when there is zero evidence for that and is diametrically opposite of what the gospels state.

The gospels make a concerted effort to show that Jesus taught that the messiah would be a suffering servant as foretold in Isaiah 53:1-12. The gospels make a concerted effort to show Jesus acknowledged being a king, but redefined this role as a spiritual, non-political, and heavenly sovereignty rather than a conventional earthly monarchy. The gospels make a concerted effort to show Jesus affirmed a role greater than David.

 

[ding]

- used by all three desert religions to persecute and victimize the innocent - in the name of the heavens and repudiated by the 1st century events, jesus.

You left out this part.... Jesus taught that it isn't about rule keeping. That true righteousness is about a transformed heart, love for God, and love for neighbors, rather than merely keeping external rules. He fulfilled the law by focusing on intent over action—teaching that inner attitudes like hatred or lust are as sinful as actions, while emphasizing mercy over rigid legalism. In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus declared that inner thoughts (hatred, lust) are equivalent to acts (murder, adultery) in God's eyes. He pushed beyond mere conformity to a list of rules to demand true righteousness. Jesus defied religious leaders by healing on the Sabbath and allowing his disciples to pick grain on the Sabbath, declaring that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Jesus summarized all laws as loving God wholeheartedly and loving one's neighbor as oneself. He argued that following these two principles is the essence of true obedience. He frequently broke with the traditions of the Pharisees, such as ceremonial hand-washing, arguing that what truly defiles a person comes from the heart, not from unwashed hands. Jesus taught that followers should keep his commands out of love for him, rather than keeping rules to gain merit or out of a sense of legal obligation.

 

[BreezeWood]

You left out this part.... Jesus taught that it isn't about rule keeping. That true righteousness is about a transformed heart, love for God, and love for neighbors, rather than merely keeping external rules. He fulfilled the law by focusing on intent over action—teaching that inner attitudes like hatred or lust are as sinful as actions, while emphasizing mercy over rigid legalism. In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus declared that inner thoughts (hatred, lust) are equivalent to acts (murder, adultery) in God's eyes. He pushed beyond mere conformity to a list of rules to demand true righteousness. Jesus defied religious leaders by healing on the Sabbath and allowing his disciples to pick grain on the Sabbath, declaring that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Jesus summarized all laws as loving God wholeheartedly and loving one's neighbor as oneself. He argued that following these two principles is the essence of true obedience. He frequently broke with the traditions of the Pharisees, such as ceremonial hand-washing, arguing that what truly defiles a person comes from the heart, not from unwashed hands. Jesus taught that followers should keep his commands out of love for him, rather than keeping rules to gain merit or out of a sense of legal obligation.

- do you or do you not repudiate the false (commandments) of judaism claimed from the heavens used by the desert religions to persecute and victimize the innocent.

the 1st century events, jesus - you did not answer the question before your reply ...