Poll: "Ship of Fools" - Is Tucker Carlson right?

[kyzr]

My two takeaways from reading "Ship of Fools" are:

1. Tucker nailed Trump's 2016 win:
"Trump might be vulgar and ignorant, but he wasn't responsible for the many disasters America's leaders created. He didn't open the borders, or sit idly by as manufacturing sector collapsed and the middle class died.
Trump's election wasn't about Trump. It was a throbbing middle finger in the face of America's ruling class (the Establishment of BOTH parties). It was a gesture of contempt, a howl, a rage, the end result of of decades of selfish decisions made by selfish leaders of both parties.
In retrospect, the lesson was "Ignore voters for long enough and you get Donald Trump". Yet the people the message was aimed at never received it. Instead of pausing, listening, thinking, and changing, America's ruling class withdrew. They explained away their loss with theories as implausible as:
1. Trump lost the popular vote, so he's really illigitamate
2. Trump won because of fake news and propaganda on FXN
3. Trump won because of Russian meddling
4. Trump won because he's a racist, and that's what white voters really want"

But none of these stupid excuses withstand scrutiny...."

2. How can we save the US and the middle class?
Tucker believes that the death of the middle class, as seen by family formation and family income distribution changes is the problem to be solved, before the US devolves into Latin America, with only the wealthy and the serfs. A healthy democracy depends on a healthy middle class. From where the US is now it can progress in two directions:
a) It can go from Trump to Maduro, where the serfs want, or demand, more wealth, and socialism seems the quickest way to get it. Seeing the "Green New Deal" this option is now on the table, and Bernie can make it happen.
b) The leaders in government can pass laws to strengthen the middle class by creating better jobs, and taxing the wealthy more, but not excessively more. Control immigration to protect wages. Protect entitlements.

So those are opinions as presented. Is Tucker mostly right? Lets take a poll.

 

[candycorn]

Trump is a disaster and a great lesson to all who observe. The lesson being that politics is a profession best left to the professionals. The sooner this fucking idiot is removed from office either by ballot, impeachment or term limits, the better off this nation and the world will be.

I’m more apt to agree with your first point. Trump and his supporters are only about sticking it to people. Nothing else.

 

[TNHarley]

Trump is a disaster and a great lesson to all who observe. The lesson being that politics is a profession best left to the professionals. The sooner this fucking idiot is removed from office either by ballot, impeachment or term limits, the better off this nation and the world will be.

I’m more apt to agree with your first point. Trump and his supporters are only about sticking it to people. Nothing else.

You would be hard pressed to get me to believe the way we have been doing things is better than this dipshit we have now.
You fuckers just let the corrupt establishment ass fuck you with massive dildos. And you like it.
Blows my fucking mind.

 

[candycorn]

Trump is a disaster and a great lesson to all who observe. The lesson being that politics is a profession best left to the professionals. The sooner this fucking idiot is removed from office either by ballot, impeachment or term limits, the better off this nation and the world will be.

I’m more apt to agree with your first point. Trump and his supporters are only about sticking it to people. Nothing else.

You would be hard pressed to get me to believe the way we have been doing things is better than this dipshit we have now.
You fuckers just let the corrupt establishment ass fuck you with massive dildos. And you like it.
Blows my fucking mind.

Really?

 

[Natural Citizen]

A healthy democracy depends on a healthy middle class.

Except America is a Republic. We want a healthy Republic. A healthy Republic depends on the middle class is what you should have said. A Democracy and a Republic are two polar opposite forms of government.

It is important to keep in mind the difference between a Democracy and a Republic, as dissimilar forms of government. Understanding the difference is essential to comprehension of the fundamentals involved. It should be noted, in passing, that use of the word Democracy as meaning merely the popular type of government featuring genuinely free elections by the people periodically is not helpful in discussing, as here, the difference between alternative and dissimilar forms of a popular government: a Democracy versus a Republic.

This double meaning of Democracy, a popular-type government in general, as well as a specific form of popular government needs to be made clear in any discussion, or writing, regarding this subject, for the sake of sound understanding.

So, when you say "A healthy democracy' you're confusing the two. But it's all over the television these days, and both sides of the fake party of one are always saying 'our democracy this' or 'our democracy that.' Like it's a form of government we have or something. Which it isn't. At all.


A Democracy

The chief characteristic and distinguishing feature of a Democracy is: Rule by Omnipotent Majority.

In a Democracy, The Individual, and any group of Individuals composing any Minority, have no protection against the unlimited power of The Majority. It is a case of Majority-over-Man.

This is true whether it be a Direct Democracy, or a Representative Democracy.


A Republic

A Republic, on the other hand, has a very different purpose and an entirely different form, or system, of government. Its purpose is to control The Majority strictly, as well as all others among the people, primarily to protect The Individual’s God-given, unalienable rights and therefore for the protection of the rights of The Minority, of all minorities, and the liberties of people in general.

The definition of a Republic is: a constitutionally limited government of the representative type, created by a written Constitution, adopted by the people and changeable (from its original meaning) by them only by its amendment, with its powers divided between three separate Branches: Executive, Legislative and Judicial.

Here the term "the people" means, of course, the electorate.

Instead of eagerly adhering to the statist narrative and conforming to their deceptive language when referencing our Republic, meaning our form of government, as a form of government that it patently is not, it should be corrected at every instance. In 'a Democracy' there is no middle class.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Trump is a disaster and a great lesson to all who observe. The lesson being that politics is a profession best left to the professionals. The sooner this fucking idiot is removed from office either by ballot, impeachment or term limits, the better off this nation and the world will be.

I’m more apt to agree with your first point. Trump and his supporters are only about sticking it to people. Nothing else.

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[TNHarley]

Trump is a disaster and a great lesson to all who observe. The lesson being that politics is a profession best left to the professionals. The sooner this fucking idiot is removed from office either by ballot, impeachment or term limits, the better off this nation and the world will be.

I’m more apt to agree with your first point. Trump and his supporters are only about sticking it to people. Nothing else.

You would be hard pressed to get me to believe the way we have been doing things is better than this dipshit we have now.
You fuckers just let the corrupt establishment ass fuck you with massive dildos. And you like it.
Blows my fucking mind.

Really?

What did i say?

 

[Dragonlady]

My two takeaways from reading "Ship of Fools" are:

1. Tucker nailed Trump's 2016 win:
"Trump might be vulgar and ignorant, but he wasn't responsible for the many disasters America's leaders created. He didn't open the borders, or sit idly by as manufacturing sector collapsed and the middle class died.
Trump's election wasn't about Trump. It was a throbbing middle finger in the face of America's ruling class (the Establishment of BOTH parties). It was a gesture of contempt, a howl, a rage, the end result of of decades of selfish decisions made by selfish leaders of both parties.
In retrospect, the lesson was "Ignore voters for long enough and you get Donald Trump". Yet the people the message was aimed at never received it. Instead of pausing, listening, thinking, and changing, America's ruling class withdrew. They explained away their loss with theories as implausible as:
1. Trump lost the popular vote, so he's really illigitamate
2. Trump won because of fake news and propaganda on FXN
3. Trump won because of Russian meddling
4. Trump won because he's a racist, and that's what white voters really want"

But none of these stupid excuses withstand scrutiny...."

2. How can we save the US and the middle class?
Tucker believes that the death of the middle class, as seen by family formation and family income distribution changes is the problem to be solved, before the US devolves into Latin America, with only the wealthy and the serfs. A healthy democracy depends on a healthy middle class. From where the US is now it can progress in two directions:
a) It can go from Trump to Maduro, where the serfs want, or demand, more wealth, and socialism seems the quickest way to get it. Seeing the "Green New Deal" this option is now on the table, and Bernie can make it happen.
b) The leaders in government can pass laws to strengthen the middle class by creating better jobs, and taxing the wealthy more, but not excessively more. Control immigration to protect wages. Protect entitlements.

So those are opinions as presented. Is Tucker mostly right? Lets take a poll.

So in other words, you're supporting the Democractic agenda and you're turning against Trump and his "transfer of wealth" tax cuts.

 

[gipper]

Trump is a disaster and a great lesson to all who observe. The lesson being that politics is a profession best left to the professionals. The sooner this fucking idiot is removed from office either by ballot, impeachment or term limits, the better off this nation and the world will be.

I’m more apt to agree with your first point. Trump and his supporters are only about sticking it to people. Nothing else.

Why do you support the criminal ruling class?

Trump is vulgar and dumb, but compared to HER he is much better. She is the criminal ruling class.

 

[candycorn]

Trump is a disaster and a great lesson to all who observe. The lesson being that politics is a profession best left to the professionals. The sooner this fucking idiot is removed from office either by ballot, impeachment or term limits, the better off this nation and the world will be.

I’m more apt to agree with your first point. Trump and his supporters are only about sticking it to people. Nothing else.

You would be hard pressed to get me to believe the way we have been doing things is better than this dipshit we have now.
You fuckers just let the corrupt establishment ass fuck you with massive dildos. And you like it.
Blows my fucking mind.

Really?

What did i say?

Not sure. You seem to believe that If we had had Trump in office instead of Lincoln, Roosevelt, FDR, Reagan, Clinton et. al. We ‘d somehow be better off. I’d ask you to demonstrate your reasoning but I’m sure you won’t in place of more profane snark.

Perhaps you will surprise me and tell us how the blob would have been better than those men.

 

[TNHarley]

Trump is a disaster and a great lesson to all who observe. The lesson being that politics is a profession best left to the professionals. The sooner this fucking idiot is removed from office either by ballot, impeachment or term limits, the better off this nation and the world will be.

I’m more apt to agree with your first point. Trump and his supporters are only about sticking it to people. Nothing else.

Why do you support the criminal ruling class?

Trump is vulgar and dumb, but compared to HER he is much better. She is the criminal ruling class.

Trump has many faults. I dont like the guy at all. BUT why is he worse than people that have voted for genocide, overthrowing elected leaders, arming our enemies etc?
Most americans are complete morons.
Thats why.

 

[candycorn]

Trump is a disaster and a great lesson to all who observe. The lesson being that politics is a profession best left to the professionals. The sooner this fucking idiot is removed from office either by ballot, impeachment or term limits, the better off this nation and the world will be.

I’m more apt to agree with your first point. Trump and his supporters are only about sticking it to people. Nothing else.

Why do you support the criminal ruling class?

Trump is vulgar and dumb, but compared to HER he is much better. She is the criminal ruling class.

A vulgar and dumb and corrupt billionaire who admits to buying politicians is not a member of “the ruling class”?

 

[gipper]

My two takeaways from reading "Ship of Fools" are:

1. Tucker nailed Trump's 2016 win:
"Trump might be vulgar and ignorant, but he wasn't responsible for the many disasters America's leaders created. He didn't open the borders, or sit idly by as manufacturing sector collapsed and the middle class died.
Trump's election wasn't about Trump. It was a throbbing middle finger in the face of America's ruling class (the Establishment of BOTH parties). It was a gesture of contempt, a howl, a rage, the end result of of decades of selfish decisions made by selfish leaders of both parties.
In retrospect, the lesson was "Ignore voters for long enough and you get Donald Trump". Yet the people the message was aimed at never received it. Instead of pausing, listening, thinking, and changing, America's ruling class withdrew. They explained away their loss with theories as implausible as:
1. Trump lost the popular vote, so he's really illigitamate
2. Trump won because of fake news and propaganda on FXN
3. Trump won because of Russian meddling
4. Trump won because he's a racist, and that's what white voters really want"

But none of these stupid excuses withstand scrutiny...."

2. How can we save the US and the middle class?
Tucker believes that the death of the middle class, as seen by family formation and family income distribution changes is the problem to be solved, before the US devolves into Latin America, with only the wealthy and the serfs. A healthy democracy depends on a healthy middle class. From where the US is now it can progress in two directions:
a) It can go from Trump to Maduro, where the serfs want, or demand, more wealth, and socialism seems the quickest way to get it. Seeing the "Green New Deal" this option is now on the table, and Bernie can make it happen.
b) The leaders in government can pass laws to strengthen the middle class by creating better jobs, and taxing the wealthy more, but not excessively more. Control immigration to protect wages. Protect entitlements.

So those are opinions as presented. Is Tucker mostly right? Lets take a poll.

I agree with most of that. The American people are sick of the criminals in our political class, and no politician is more criminal and insane than Hillary.

What we now see is the ruling class, through their total control of the MSM and social media, a take down of Trump by any means. They then will install their chosen politician to POTUS. Then, the American people will be screwed again.

Sadly, many average Americans who only see only hate for Trump and his supporters, are unknowingly falling into the trap set for them by the criminals in the ruling class.

 

[TNHarley]

Trump is a disaster and a great lesson to all who observe. The lesson being that politics is a profession best left to the professionals. The sooner this fucking idiot is removed from office either by ballot, impeachment or term limits, the better off this nation and the world will be.

I’m more apt to agree with your first point. Trump and his supporters are only about sticking it to people. Nothing else.

You would be hard pressed to get me to believe the way we have been doing things is better than this dipshit we have now.
You fuckers just let the corrupt establishment ass fuck you with massive dildos. And you like it.
Blows my fucking mind.

Really?

What did i say?

Not sure. You seem to believe that If we had had Trump in office instead of Lincoln, Roosevelt, FDR, Reagan, Clinton et. al. We ‘d somehow be better off. I’d ask you to demonstrate your reasoning but I’m sure you won’t in place of more profane snark.

Perhaps you will surprise me and tell us how the blob would have been better than those men.

Lincoln was a tyrant. How the fuck does your disingenuous ass blast trump for the constitution and throw out lincoln who shit on our constitution more than all other presidents combined? You are a dumbass
The people you listed were more "presidential" but that doesnt mean we would have been better off. And there is no possible way to compare it. Different times. Of course, you obviously bath in fallacy.
Our professional politicians, as you like to call them threw the middle east in chaos. Helped throw south america in chaos. Helped build up the mexican cartels with their fascist policies. Armed our enemies. Literally put drugs in our streets. Let our children starve while we raise our debt to line dictators pockets.
Try to THINK.

 

[deanrd]

My two takeaways from reading "Ship of Fools" are:

1. Tucker nailed Trump's 2016 win:
"Trump might be vulgar and ignorant, but he wasn't responsible for the many disasters America's leaders created. He didn't open the borders, or sit idly by as manufacturing sector collapsed and the middle class died.
Trump's election wasn't about Trump. It was a throbbing middle finger in the face of America's ruling class (the Establishment of BOTH parties). It was a gesture of contempt, a howl, a rage, the end result of of decades of selfish decisions made by selfish leaders of both parties.
In retrospect, the lesson was "Ignore voters for long enough and you get Donald Trump". Yet the people the message was aimed at never received it. Instead of pausing, listening, thinking, and changing, America's ruling class withdrew. They explained away their loss with theories as implausible as:
1. Trump lost the popular vote, so he's really illigitamate
2. Trump won because of fake news and propaganda on FXN
3. Trump won because of Russian meddling
4. Trump won because he's a racist, and that's what white voters really want"

But none of these stupid excuses withstand scrutiny...."

2. How can we save the US and the middle class?
Tucker believes that the death of the middle class, as seen by family formation and family income distribution changes is the problem to be solved, before the US devolves into Latin America, with only the wealthy and the serfs. A healthy democracy depends on a healthy middle class. From where the US is now it can progress in two directions:
a) It can go from Trump to Maduro, where the serfs want, or demand, more wealth, and socialism seems the quickest way to get it. Seeing the "Green New Deal" this option is now on the table, and Bernie can make it happen.
b) The leaders in government can pass laws to strengthen the middle class by creating better jobs, and taxing the wealthy more, but not excessively more. Control immigration to protect wages. Protect entitlements.

So those are opinions as presented. Is Tucker mostly right? Lets take a poll.

You’re right. None of those withstand scrutiny. Because they all do.

 

[deanrd]

My two takeaways from reading "Ship of Fools" are:

1. Tucker nailed Trump's 2016 win:
"Trump might be vulgar and ignorant, but he wasn't responsible for the many disasters America's leaders created. He didn't open the borders, or sit idly by as manufacturing sector collapsed and the middle class died.
Trump's election wasn't about Trump. It was a throbbing middle finger in the face of America's ruling class (the Establishment of BOTH parties). It was a gesture of contempt, a howl, a rage, the end result of of decades of selfish decisions made by selfish leaders of both parties.
In retrospect, the lesson was "Ignore voters for long enough and you get Donald Trump". Yet the people the message was aimed at never received it. Instead of pausing, listening, thinking, and changing, America's ruling class withdrew. They explained away their loss with theories as implausible as:
1. Trump lost the popular vote, so he's really illigitamate
2. Trump won because of fake news and propaganda on FXN
3. Trump won because of Russian meddling
4. Trump won because he's a racist, and that's what white voters really want"

But none of these stupid excuses withstand scrutiny...."

2. How can we save the US and the middle class?
Tucker believes that the death of the middle class, as seen by family formation and family income distribution changes is the problem to be solved, before the US devolves into Latin America, with only the wealthy and the serfs. A healthy democracy depends on a healthy middle class. From where the US is now it can progress in two directions:
a) It can go from Trump to Maduro, where the serfs want, or demand, more wealth, and socialism seems the quickest way to get it. Seeing the "Green New Deal" this option is now on the table, and Bernie can make it happen.
b) The leaders in government can pass laws to strengthen the middle class by creating better jobs, and taxing the wealthy more, but not excessively more. Control immigration to protect wages. Protect entitlements.

So those are opinions as presented. Is Tucker mostly right? Lets take a poll.

I agree with most of that. The American people are sick of the criminals in our political class, and no politician is more criminal and insane than Hillary.

What we now see is the ruling class, through their total control of the MSM and social media, a take down of Trump by any means. They then will install their chosen politician to POTUS. Then, the American people will be screwed again.

Sadly, many average Americans who only see only hate for Trump and his supporters, are unknowingly falling into the trap set for them by the criminals in the ruling class.

Trump is the biggest criminal we ever had as president. And he could even be a traitor.

 

[TNHarley]

Fuck the establishment.

 

[gipper]

Trump is a disaster and a great lesson to all who observe. The lesson being that politics is a profession best left to the professionals. The sooner this fucking idiot is removed from office either by ballot, impeachment or term limits, the better off this nation and the world will be.

I’m more apt to agree with your first point. Trump and his supporters are only about sticking it to people. Nothing else.

Why do you support the criminal ruling class?

Trump is vulgar and dumb, but compared to HER he is much better. She is the criminal ruling class.

A vulgar and dumb and corrupt billionaire who admits to buying politicians is not a member of “the ruling class”?

Clearly he isn’t a member since clearly the ruling class you support, wants him gone. Please wake up.

Trump is bad, but it can get a lot worse.

 

[gipper]

My two takeaways from reading "Ship of Fools" are:

1. Tucker nailed Trump's 2016 win:
"Trump might be vulgar and ignorant, but he wasn't responsible for the many disasters America's leaders created. He didn't open the borders, or sit idly by as manufacturing sector collapsed and the middle class died.
Trump's election wasn't about Trump. It was a throbbing middle finger in the face of America's ruling class (the Establishment of BOTH parties). It was a gesture of contempt, a howl, a rage, the end result of of decades of selfish decisions made by selfish leaders of both parties.
In retrospect, the lesson was "Ignore voters for long enough and you get Donald Trump". Yet the people the message was aimed at never received it. Instead of pausing, listening, thinking, and changing, America's ruling class withdrew. They explained away their loss with theories as implausible as:
1. Trump lost the popular vote, so he's really illigitamate
2. Trump won because of fake news and propaganda on FXN
3. Trump won because of Russian meddling
4. Trump won because he's a racist, and that's what white voters really want"

But none of these stupid excuses withstand scrutiny...."

2. How can we save the US and the middle class?
Tucker believes that the death of the middle class, as seen by family formation and family income distribution changes is the problem to be solved, before the US devolves into Latin America, with only the wealthy and the serfs. A healthy democracy depends on a healthy middle class. From where the US is now it can progress in two directions:
a) It can go from Trump to Maduro, where the serfs want, or demand, more wealth, and socialism seems the quickest way to get it. Seeing the "Green New Deal" this option is now on the table, and Bernie can make it happen.
b) The leaders in government can pass laws to strengthen the middle class by creating better jobs, and taxing the wealthy more, but not excessively more. Control immigration to protect wages. Protect entitlements.

So those are opinions as presented. Is Tucker mostly right? Lets take a poll.

I agree with most of that. The American people are sick of the criminals in our political class, and no politician is more criminal and insane than Hillary.

What we now see is the ruling class, through their total control of the MSM and social media, a take down of Trump by any means. They then will install their chosen politician to POTUS. Then, the American people will be screwed again.

Sadly, many average Americans who only see only hate for Trump and his supporters, are unknowingly falling into the trap set for them by the criminals in the ruling class.

Trump is the biggest criminal we ever had as president. And he could even be a traitor.

You are the perfect example of the dumb American. You will do whatever the ruling class tells you.

 

[Claudette]

Trump is a disaster and a great lesson to all who observe. The lesson being that politics is a profession best left to the professionals. The sooner this fucking idiot is removed from office either by ballot, impeachment or term limits, the better off this nation and the world will be.

I’m more apt to agree with your first point. Trump and his supporters are only about sticking it to people. Nothing else.

LMAO This nation is doing better than it has in decades you idiot.

UE is the lowest its been since 69.

There are jobs, jobs and more jobs available.

The economy is doing great.

For someone you see as a "disaster" that disaster is doing pretty damned good.

He'll win in 2020 so you best suck it up as you are doomed to more disappointment.

Really does suck to be you.