POLL: Open the economy up and go back to work - Stay home and shutdown

[sparky]

Find me some 'essential' work......

~S~

You aren't essential either.......even when you have a light bulb in your mouth.

aw..man...but i try so hard to do it well .....

~S~

 

[OnePercenter]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Not on USMB. They all seem to be business owners, work from home, independently wealthy, or early retired. I don't recall meeting one liberal on here that is a blue collar worker.

There’s a lot of prejudice against liberals. I’ve been told many times by USMB members that I cannot be successful simply because I have liberal political views.

I'm just giving my observation. I've been here almost five years, and have been in other forums before this one. It's like that everywhere I go. Every liberal is at least college educated. Every liberal has a business or is independently wealthy, or early retired because they made so much money in life. Me??? I'm the only truck driver in the place.

Why don't I believe it? Because I do know "real" wealthy people and business owners, and very few are for Democrat plans of ridiculous taxation, tons of business regulations, more government control of businesses, and a high national minimum wage. These are things the poor usually embrace.

Liberals claim to be business owners yet they think its as easy as putting a sign over the door and raking in the money

they are clueless

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Silly billy. I’m a business owner but one who has their priorities straight.

Is so you should not be dumping hate on small businesses that being hit the hardest by this economic shutdown

I was only dumping on the idea that the economic shutdown is more important than the health and lives of our fellow Americans.

Bullshit

Your stupid comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage was nothing but you looking down on small businesses that are working on a small margin between success and failure

I was only looking down on you and your opinion. The small business owners I know that have shut down are doing so to help the community because that’s their first priority.

Your attitude reflects the opposite.

Thats a typical lib reaction to anyone that disagrees with you

But how can you be sure that all the small businesses you are laughing at are owned by republican white males who married their baby‘s momma’s and believe in God?

you could be celebrating the demise of some of your own kind

What the hell are you talking about?

I explained why I think you’re wrong. You’ve just whined and bitched about me.

I am reacting to your opening comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage that you have yet to take back

Was I not being PC enough for you?

You were being very lib pc by smearing a group that liberals detest

I wasn’t smearing a group. I was attacking your logic. You don’t speak for all small business owners. Or did I miss the vote making you the spokesman?

I wrote:

“if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you”

and you respond by babbling about retirement in 15 years to acreage

you clearly have led a sheltered life

yeah. And I responded by stating your logic is flawed. We are talking about responding to a crisis as a nation by working back to what is essential for the community.

And you responded by determining what is essential for an individual.

Your focusing on the individual over the community is not the right thing to do now.

Isn't it a fact that socialists and fascists NEVER care for individual rights?

.

During times of national emergency, our nation has always focused at fighting the emergency at the cost of individual rights.

Previous generations haven’t been nearly so whiny about it.

Over a 100,000 Americans died in 1957 and 1968 ..........the world didn't get shut down for it..........

Perhaps Tricky dick caused a lot of the Stock Market BS with coming off Gold though..........so the Money laundered bets from the Federal Reserve don't screw the country when someone FARTS.

Still not nearly as bad as COVID-19.

'Based on population then versus now....I disagree.............and give that Statistics on these are EDUCATED GUESSES.........what people GUESS may be WRONG.........

The Virus will do what it wants to do..........you aren't gonna stop it......and they sure as hell haven't stopped it in China...........No damned way they did that.

So the brightest minds that have worked in infectious disease and epidemiology sit you down and say they think COVID could kill 2 million without significant costly mitigation.

No one in the world has the balls to ignore that.

Well put, we can't sacrifice 2.2m for a "brief shutdown".
That said, we can't keep the shutdown going any longer than absolutely necessary, especially knowing that some genius somewhere will find a vaccine or medication this year.

They already found them, it's just that they have to go through a lot of testing. The earliest all this can be completed is probably next year.

True, but new vaccines are being discovered all the time, look at the test development, company by company
1. CDC painfully slow tests, no capacity
2. Automated tests, faster results (Roche, et.al)
3. 15-minute test results (Avid)
4. 5-minute test results (Abbot Labs)

Vaccines are in testing, but I saw on TV a new one from tobacco plants that might be a game-changer, hope it pans out.

British American Tobacco Claims It’s Close to a Plant-Based COVID-19 Vaccine

In one of the stranger plot twists to emerge from the coronavirus pandemic, British American Tobacco (NYSE: BTI) issued a news release today stating it is helping to develop a COVID-19 vaccine through a process using tobacco plants. Kentucky BioProcessing, a subsidiary of Britis

www.nasdaq.com

I just read a story today out of California. It's a short read if you care to look at it.

'Pandemic' scientist says his team has discovered potential cure for COVID-19

Dr. Jacob Glanville's team took antibodies used to neutralize SARS and used technology in their lab to adapt them to recognize COVID-19.

www.cbs8.com

Thats promising but there is really great news for liberals coming out of the CDC

the docs have announced that erectile dysfunction drugs are useful for fighting the wuhan virus

Great. Now they will want more Planned Parenthood funding in the next stimulus.

Where are you going to go for your Erectile Dysfunction treatment?

What is this, the recommendation forum? Find one yourself.

Quoting a poster on this forum; "Not My Problem"

 

[Mac-7]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Not on USMB. They all seem to be business owners, work from home, independently wealthy, or early retired. I don't recall meeting one liberal on here that is a blue collar worker.

There’s a lot of prejudice against liberals. I’ve been told many times by USMB members that I cannot be successful simply because I have liberal political views.

I'm just giving my observation. I've been here almost five years, and have been in other forums before this one. It's like that everywhere I go. Every liberal is at least college educated. Every liberal has a business or is independently wealthy, or early retired because they made so much money in life. Me??? I'm the only truck driver in the place.

Why don't I believe it? Because I do know "real" wealthy people and business owners, and very few are for Democrat plans of ridiculous taxation, tons of business regulations, more government control of businesses, and a high national minimum wage. These are things the poor usually embrace.

Liberals claim to be business owners yet they think its as easy as putting a sign over the door and raking in the money

they are clueless

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Silly billy. I’m a business owner but one who has their priorities straight.

Is so you should not be dumping hate on small businesses that being hit the hardest by this economic shutdown

I was only dumping on the idea that the economic shutdown is more important than the health and lives of our fellow Americans.

Bullshit

Your stupid comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage was nothing but you looking down on small businesses that are working on a small margin between success and failure

I was only looking down on you and your opinion. The small business owners I know that have shut down are doing so to help the community because that’s their first priority.

Your attitude reflects the opposite.

Thats a typical lib reaction to anyone that disagrees with you

But how can you be sure that all the small businesses you are laughing at are owned by republican white males who married their baby‘s momma’s and believe in God?

you could be celebrating the demise of some of your own kind

What the hell are you talking about?

I explained why I think you’re wrong. You’ve just whined and bitched about me.

I am reacting to your opening comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage that you have yet to take back

Was I not being PC enough for you?

You were being very lib pc by smearing a group that liberals detest

I wasn’t smearing a group. I was attacking your logic. You don’t speak for all small business owners. Or did I miss the vote making you the spokesman?

I wrote:

“if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you”

and you respond by babbling about retirement in 15 years to acreage

you clearly have led a sheltered life

yeah. And I responded by stating your logic is flawed. We are talking about responding to a crisis as a nation by working back to what is essential for the community.

And you responded by determining what is essential for an individual.

Your focusing on the individual over the community is not the right thing to do now.

Isn't it a fact that socialists and fascists NEVER care for individual rights?

.

During times of national emergency, our nation has always focused at fighting the emergency at the cost of individual rights.

Previous generations haven’t been nearly so whiny about it.

Over a 100,000 Americans died in 1957 and 1968 ..........the world didn't get shut down for it..........

Perhaps Tricky dick caused a lot of the Stock Market BS with coming off Gold though..........so the Money laundered bets from the Federal Reserve don't screw the country when someone FARTS.

Still not nearly as bad as COVID-19.

'Based on population then versus now....I disagree.............and give that Statistics on these are EDUCATED GUESSES.........what people GUESS may be WRONG.........

The Virus will do what it wants to do..........you aren't gonna stop it......and they sure as hell haven't stopped it in China...........No damned way they did that.

So the brightest minds that have worked in infectious disease and epidemiology sit you down and say they think COVID could kill 2 million without significant costly mitigation.

No one in the world has the balls to ignore that.

Well put, we can't sacrifice 2.2m for a "brief shutdown".
That said, we can't keep the shutdown going any longer than absolutely necessary, especially knowing that some genius somewhere will find a vaccine or medication this year.

They already found them, it's just that they have to go through a lot of testing. The earliest all this can be completed is probably next year.

True, but new vaccines are being discovered all the time, look at the test development, company by company
1. CDC painfully slow tests, no capacity
2. Automated tests, faster results (Roche, et.al)
3. 15-minute test results (Avid)
4. 5-minute test results (Abbot Labs)

Vaccines are in testing, but I saw on TV a new one from tobacco plants that might be a game-changer, hope it pans out.

British American Tobacco Claims It’s Close to a Plant-Based COVID-19 Vaccine

In one of the stranger plot twists to emerge from the coronavirus pandemic, British American Tobacco (NYSE: BTI) issued a news release today stating it is helping to develop a COVID-19 vaccine through a process using tobacco plants. Kentucky BioProcessing, a subsidiary of Britis

www.nasdaq.com

I just read a story today out of California. It's a short read if you care to look at it.

'Pandemic' scientist says his team has discovered potential cure for COVID-19

Dr. Jacob Glanville's team took antibodies used to neutralize SARS and used technology in their lab to adapt them to recognize COVID-19.

www.cbs8.com

Thats promising but there is really great news for liberals coming out of the CDC

the docs have announced that erectile dysfunction drugs are useful for fighting the wuhan virus

Great. Now they will want more Planned Parenthood funding in the next stimulus.

No more "stimulus", fuck that!

40 acres and a tractor!

Not getting enough? Democrats wanted a $200.00mo. permanent COLA for social security recipients. NO GO said the Republicans.

Why do ss recipients deserve $200 more?

If ss is all they have they have led wasted lives

 

[Contumacious]

The worst part about the U.S. losing 10 million jobs in two weeks? The real number may be much higher

Warmongers , neocrazies and Likudnicks may destroy the US as we know it.

Is someone going to be penalized for the catastrophe?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

 

[Lesh]

Do you folks realize the idiocy of this thread yet?

 

[OnePercenter]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Not on USMB. They all seem to be business owners, work from home, independently wealthy, or early retired. I don't recall meeting one liberal on here that is a blue collar worker.

There’s a lot of prejudice against liberals. I’ve been told many times by USMB members that I cannot be successful simply because I have liberal political views.

I'm just giving my observation. I've been here almost five years, and have been in other forums before this one. It's like that everywhere I go. Every liberal is at least college educated. Every liberal has a business or is independently wealthy, or early retired because they made so much money in life. Me??? I'm the only truck driver in the place.

Why don't I believe it? Because I do know "real" wealthy people and business owners, and very few are for Democrat plans of ridiculous taxation, tons of business regulations, more government control of businesses, and a high national minimum wage. These are things the poor usually embrace.

Liberals claim to be business owners yet they think its as easy as putting a sign over the door and raking in the money

they are clueless

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Silly billy. I’m a business owner but one who has their priorities straight.

Is so you should not be dumping hate on small businesses that being hit the hardest by this economic shutdown

I was only dumping on the idea that the economic shutdown is more important than the health and lives of our fellow Americans.

Bullshit

Your stupid comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage was nothing but you looking down on small businesses that are working on a small margin between success and failure

I was only looking down on you and your opinion. The small business owners I know that have shut down are doing so to help the community because that’s their first priority.

Your attitude reflects the opposite.

Thats a typical lib reaction to anyone that disagrees with you

But how can you be sure that all the small businesses you are laughing at are owned by republican white males who married their baby‘s momma’s and believe in God?

you could be celebrating the demise of some of your own kind

What the hell are you talking about?

I explained why I think you’re wrong. You’ve just whined and bitched about me.

I am reacting to your opening comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage that you have yet to take back

Was I not being PC enough for you?

You were being very lib pc by smearing a group that liberals detest

I wasn’t smearing a group. I was attacking your logic. You don’t speak for all small business owners. Or did I miss the vote making you the spokesman?

I wrote:

“if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you”

and you respond by babbling about retirement in 15 years to acreage

you clearly have led a sheltered life

yeah. And I responded by stating your logic is flawed. We are talking about responding to a crisis as a nation by working back to what is essential for the community.

And you responded by determining what is essential for an individual.

Your focusing on the individual over the community is not the right thing to do now.

Isn't it a fact that socialists and fascists NEVER care for individual rights?

.

During times of national emergency, our nation has always focused at fighting the emergency at the cost of individual rights.

Previous generations haven’t been nearly so whiny about it.

Over a 100,000 Americans died in 1957 and 1968 ..........the world didn't get shut down for it..........

Perhaps Tricky dick caused a lot of the Stock Market BS with coming off Gold though..........so the Money laundered bets from the Federal Reserve don't screw the country when someone FARTS.

Still not nearly as bad as COVID-19.

'Based on population then versus now....I disagree.............and give that Statistics on these are EDUCATED GUESSES.........what people GUESS may be WRONG.........

The Virus will do what it wants to do..........you aren't gonna stop it......and they sure as hell haven't stopped it in China...........No damned way they did that.

So the brightest minds that have worked in infectious disease and epidemiology sit you down and say they think COVID could kill 2 million without significant costly mitigation.

No one in the world has the balls to ignore that.

Well put, we can't sacrifice 2.2m for a "brief shutdown".
That said, we can't keep the shutdown going any longer than absolutely necessary, especially knowing that some genius somewhere will find a vaccine or medication this year.

They already found them, it's just that they have to go through a lot of testing. The earliest all this can be completed is probably next year.

True, but new vaccines are being discovered all the time, look at the test development, company by company
1. CDC painfully slow tests, no capacity
2. Automated tests, faster results (Roche, et.al)
3. 15-minute test results (Avid)
4. 5-minute test results (Abbot Labs)

Vaccines are in testing, but I saw on TV a new one from tobacco plants that might be a game-changer, hope it pans out.

British American Tobacco Claims It’s Close to a Plant-Based COVID-19 Vaccine

In one of the stranger plot twists to emerge from the coronavirus pandemic, British American Tobacco (NYSE: BTI) issued a news release today stating it is helping to develop a COVID-19 vaccine through a process using tobacco plants. Kentucky BioProcessing, a subsidiary of Britis

www.nasdaq.com

I just read a story today out of California. It's a short read if you care to look at it.

'Pandemic' scientist says his team has discovered potential cure for COVID-19

Dr. Jacob Glanville's team took antibodies used to neutralize SARS and used technology in their lab to adapt them to recognize COVID-19.

www.cbs8.com

Thats promising but there is really great news for liberals coming out of the CDC

the docs have announced that erectile dysfunction drugs are useful for fighting the wuhan virus

Great. Now they will want more Planned Parenthood funding in the next stimulus.

No more "stimulus", fuck that!

40 acres and a tractor!

Not getting enough? Democrats wanted a $200.00mo. permanent COLA for social security recipients. NO GO said the Republicans.

Why do ss recipients deserve $200 more?

If ss is all they have they have led wasted lives

Retirement accounts lost $2.8 trillion in the last two quarters of 2008. I can't even imagine what this Republican fuck-up will cause.

 

[OnePercenter]

The worst part about the U.S. losing 10 million jobs in two weeks? The real number may be much higher

Warmongers , neocrazies and Likudnicks may destroy the US as we know it.

Is someone going to be penalized for the catastrophe?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Hannity is going to be hit hard.

 

[Marion Morrison]

The worst part about the U.S. losing 10 million jobs in two weeks? The real number may be much higher

Warmongers , neocrazies and Likudnicks may destroy the US as we know it.

Is someone going to be penalized for the catastrophe?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Hannity is going to be hit hard.

The thing is: This is what the leftists engineered. That's why all the propaganda outlets are pushing it.
The longer the shutdown is in place, the more jobs lost, which is what they want.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Not on USMB. They all seem to be business owners, work from home, independently wealthy, or early retired. I don't recall meeting one liberal on here that is a blue collar worker.

There’s a lot of prejudice against liberals. I’ve been told many times by USMB members that I cannot be successful simply because I have liberal political views.

I'm just giving my observation. I've been here almost five years, and have been in other forums before this one. It's like that everywhere I go. Every liberal is at least college educated. Every liberal has a business or is independently wealthy, or early retired because they made so much money in life. Me??? I'm the only truck driver in the place.

Why don't I believe it? Because I do know "real" wealthy people and business owners, and very few are for Democrat plans of ridiculous taxation, tons of business regulations, more government control of businesses, and a high national minimum wage. These are things the poor usually embrace.

Liberals claim to be business owners yet they think its as easy as putting a sign over the door and raking in the money

they are clueless

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Silly billy. I’m a business owner but one who has their priorities straight.

Is so you should not be dumping hate on small businesses that being hit the hardest by this economic shutdown

I was only dumping on the idea that the economic shutdown is more important than the health and lives of our fellow Americans.

Bullshit

Your stupid comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage was nothing but you looking down on small businesses that are working on a small margin between success and failure

I was only looking down on you and your opinion. The small business owners I know that have shut down are doing so to help the community because that’s their first priority.

Your attitude reflects the opposite.

Thats a typical lib reaction to anyone that disagrees with you

But how can you be sure that all the small businesses you are laughing at are owned by republican white males who married their baby‘s momma’s and believe in God?

you could be celebrating the demise of some of your own kind

What the hell are you talking about?

I explained why I think you’re wrong. You’ve just whined and bitched about me.

I am reacting to your opening comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage that you have yet to take back

Was I not being PC enough for you?

You were being very lib pc by smearing a group that liberals detest

I wasn’t smearing a group. I was attacking your logic. You don’t speak for all small business owners. Or did I miss the vote making you the spokesman?

I wrote:

“if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you”

and you respond by babbling about retirement in 15 years to acreage

you clearly have led a sheltered life

yeah. And I responded by stating your logic is flawed. We are talking about responding to a crisis as a nation by working back to what is essential for the community.

And you responded by determining what is essential for an individual.

Your focusing on the individual over the community is not the right thing to do now.

Isn't it a fact that socialists and fascists NEVER care for individual rights?

.

During times of national emergency, our nation has always focused at fighting the emergency at the cost of individual rights.

Previous generations haven’t been nearly so whiny about it.

Over a 100,000 Americans died in 1957 and 1968 ..........the world didn't get shut down for it..........

Perhaps Tricky dick caused a lot of the Stock Market BS with coming off Gold though..........so the Money laundered bets from the Federal Reserve don't screw the country when someone FARTS.

Still not nearly as bad as COVID-19.

'Based on population then versus now....I disagree.............and give that Statistics on these are EDUCATED GUESSES.........what people GUESS may be WRONG.........

The Virus will do what it wants to do..........you aren't gonna stop it......and they sure as hell haven't stopped it in China...........No damned way they did that.

So the brightest minds that have worked in infectious disease and epidemiology sit you down and say they think COVID could kill 2 million without significant costly mitigation.

No one in the world has the balls to ignore that.

Well put, we can't sacrifice 2.2m for a "brief shutdown".
That said, we can't keep the shutdown going any longer than absolutely necessary, especially knowing that some genius somewhere will find a vaccine or medication this year.

They already found them, it's just that they have to go through a lot of testing. The earliest all this can be completed is probably next year.

True, but new vaccines are being discovered all the time, look at the test development, company by company
1. CDC painfully slow tests, no capacity
2. Automated tests, faster results (Roche, et.al)
3. 15-minute test results (Avid)
4. 5-minute test results (Abbot Labs)

Vaccines are in testing, but I saw on TV a new one from tobacco plants that might be a game-changer, hope it pans out.

British American Tobacco Claims It’s Close to a Plant-Based COVID-19 Vaccine

In one of the stranger plot twists to emerge from the coronavirus pandemic, British American Tobacco (NYSE: BTI) issued a news release today stating it is helping to develop a COVID-19 vaccine through a process using tobacco plants. Kentucky BioProcessing, a subsidiary of Britis

www.nasdaq.com

I just read a story today out of California. It's a short read if you care to look at it.

'Pandemic' scientist says his team has discovered potential cure for COVID-19

Dr. Jacob Glanville's team took antibodies used to neutralize SARS and used technology in their lab to adapt them to recognize COVID-19.

www.cbs8.com

Thats promising but there is really great news for liberals coming out of the CDC

the docs have announced that erectile dysfunction drugs are useful for fighting the wuhan virus

Great. Now they will want more Planned Parenthood funding in the next stimulus.

No more "stimulus", fuck that!

40 acres and a tractor!

Not getting enough? Democrats wanted a $200.00mo. permanent COLA for social security recipients. NO GO said the Republicans.

Why do ss recipients deserve $200 more?

If ss is all they have they have led wasted lives

Stop stealing our oxygen, you rotten fuck!

 

[Marion Morrison]

The worst part about the U.S. losing 10 million jobs in two weeks? The real number may be much higher

Warmongers , neocrazies and Likudnicks may destroy the US as we know it.

Is someone going to be penalized for the catastrophe?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Fake reporters should swing from lamp posts.

 

[Mac-7]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Not on USMB. They all seem to be business owners, work from home, independently wealthy, or early retired. I don't recall meeting one liberal on here that is a blue collar worker.

There’s a lot of prejudice against liberals. I’ve been told many times by USMB members that I cannot be successful simply because I have liberal political views.

I'm just giving my observation. I've been here almost five years, and have been in other forums before this one. It's like that everywhere I go. Every liberal is at least college educated. Every liberal has a business or is independently wealthy, or early retired because they made so much money in life. Me??? I'm the only truck driver in the place.

Why don't I believe it? Because I do know "real" wealthy people and business owners, and very few are for Democrat plans of ridiculous taxation, tons of business regulations, more government control of businesses, and a high national minimum wage. These are things the poor usually embrace.

Liberals claim to be business owners yet they think its as easy as putting a sign over the door and raking in the money

they are clueless

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Silly billy. I’m a business owner but one who has their priorities straight.

Is so you should not be dumping hate on small businesses that being hit the hardest by this economic shutdown

I was only dumping on the idea that the economic shutdown is more important than the health and lives of our fellow Americans.

Bullshit

Your stupid comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage was nothing but you looking down on small businesses that are working on a small margin between success and failure

I was only looking down on you and your opinion. The small business owners I know that have shut down are doing so to help the community because that’s their first priority.

Your attitude reflects the opposite.

Thats a typical lib reaction to anyone that disagrees with you

But how can you be sure that all the small businesses you are laughing at are owned by republican white males who married their baby‘s momma’s and believe in God?

you could be celebrating the demise of some of your own kind

What the hell are you talking about?

I explained why I think you’re wrong. You’ve just whined and bitched about me.

I am reacting to your opening comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage that you have yet to take back

Was I not being PC enough for you?

You were being very lib pc by smearing a group that liberals detest

I wasn’t smearing a group. I was attacking your logic. You don’t speak for all small business owners. Or did I miss the vote making you the spokesman?

I wrote:

“if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you”

and you respond by babbling about retirement in 15 years to acreage

you clearly have led a sheltered life

yeah. And I responded by stating your logic is flawed. We are talking about responding to a crisis as a nation by working back to what is essential for the community.

And you responded by determining what is essential for an individual.

Your focusing on the individual over the community is not the right thing to do now.

Isn't it a fact that socialists and fascists NEVER care for individual rights?

.

During times of national emergency, our nation has always focused at fighting the emergency at the cost of individual rights.

Previous generations haven’t been nearly so whiny about it.

Over a 100,000 Americans died in 1957 and 1968 ..........the world didn't get shut down for it..........

Perhaps Tricky dick caused a lot of the Stock Market BS with coming off Gold though..........so the Money laundered bets from the Federal Reserve don't screw the country when someone FARTS.

Still not nearly as bad as COVID-19.

'Based on population then versus now....I disagree.............and give that Statistics on these are EDUCATED GUESSES.........what people GUESS may be WRONG.........

The Virus will do what it wants to do..........you aren't gonna stop it......and they sure as hell haven't stopped it in China...........No damned way they did that.

So the brightest minds that have worked in infectious disease and epidemiology sit you down and say they think COVID could kill 2 million without significant costly mitigation.

No one in the world has the balls to ignore that.

Well put, we can't sacrifice 2.2m for a "brief shutdown".
That said, we can't keep the shutdown going any longer than absolutely necessary, especially knowing that some genius somewhere will find a vaccine or medication this year.

They already found them, it's just that they have to go through a lot of testing. The earliest all this can be completed is probably next year.

True, but new vaccines are being discovered all the time, look at the test development, company by company
1. CDC painfully slow tests, no capacity
2. Automated tests, faster results (Roche, et.al)
3. 15-minute test results (Avid)
4. 5-minute test results (Abbot Labs)

Vaccines are in testing, but I saw on TV a new one from tobacco plants that might be a game-changer, hope it pans out.

British American Tobacco Claims It’s Close to a Plant-Based COVID-19 Vaccine

In one of the stranger plot twists to emerge from the coronavirus pandemic, British American Tobacco (NYSE: BTI) issued a news release today stating it is helping to develop a COVID-19 vaccine through a process using tobacco plants. Kentucky BioProcessing, a subsidiary of Britis

www.nasdaq.com

I just read a story today out of California. It's a short read if you care to look at it.

'Pandemic' scientist says his team has discovered potential cure for COVID-19

Dr. Jacob Glanville's team took antibodies used to neutralize SARS and used technology in their lab to adapt them to recognize COVID-19.

www.cbs8.com

Thats promising but there is really great news for liberals coming out of the CDC

the docs have announced that erectile dysfunction drugs are useful for fighting the wuhan virus

Great. Now they will want more Planned Parenthood funding in the next stimulus.

No more "stimulus", fuck that!

40 acres and a tractor!

Not getting enough? Democrats wanted a $200.00mo. permanent COLA for social security recipients. NO GO said the Republicans.

Why do ss recipients deserve $200 more?

If ss is all they have they have led wasted lives

Retirement accounts lost $2.8 trillion in the last two quarters of 2008. I can't even imagine what this Republican fuck-up will cause.

Putting your usual partisanship aside, the retirement accounts will lose a lot

which is another reason why this shutdown must end sooner rather than later

 

[kyzr]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Not on USMB. They all seem to be business owners, work from home, independently wealthy, or early retired. I don't recall meeting one liberal on here that is a blue collar worker.

There’s a lot of prejudice against liberals. I’ve been told many times by USMB members that I cannot be successful simply because I have liberal political views.

I'm just giving my observation. I've been here almost five years, and have been in other forums before this one. It's like that everywhere I go. Every liberal is at least college educated. Every liberal has a business or is independently wealthy, or early retired because they made so much money in life. Me??? I'm the only truck driver in the place.

Why don't I believe it? Because I do know "real" wealthy people and business owners, and very few are for Democrat plans of ridiculous taxation, tons of business regulations, more government control of businesses, and a high national minimum wage. These are things the poor usually embrace.

Liberals claim to be business owners yet they think its as easy as putting a sign over the door and raking in the money

they are clueless

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Silly billy. I’m a business owner but one who has their priorities straight.

Is so you should not be dumping hate on small businesses that being hit the hardest by this economic shutdown

I was only dumping on the idea that the economic shutdown is more important than the health and lives of our fellow Americans.

Bullshit

Your stupid comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage was nothing but you looking down on small businesses that are working on a small margin between success and failure

I was only looking down on you and your opinion. The small business owners I know that have shut down are doing so to help the community because that’s their first priority.

Your attitude reflects the opposite.

Thats a typical lib reaction to anyone that disagrees with you

But how can you be sure that all the small businesses you are laughing at are owned by republican white males who married their baby‘s momma’s and believe in God?

you could be celebrating the demise of some of your own kind

What the hell are you talking about?

I explained why I think you’re wrong. You’ve just whined and bitched about me.

I am reacting to your opening comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage that you have yet to take back

Was I not being PC enough for you?

You were being very lib pc by smearing a group that liberals detest

I wasn’t smearing a group. I was attacking your logic. You don’t speak for all small business owners. Or did I miss the vote making you the spokesman?

I wrote:

“if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you”

and you respond by babbling about retirement in 15 years to acreage

you clearly have led a sheltered life

yeah. And I responded by stating your logic is flawed. We are talking about responding to a crisis as a nation by working back to what is essential for the community.

And you responded by determining what is essential for an individual.

Your focusing on the individual over the community is not the right thing to do now.

Isn't it a fact that socialists and fascists NEVER care for individual rights?

.

During times of national emergency, our nation has always focused at fighting the emergency at the cost of individual rights.

Previous generations haven’t been nearly so whiny about it.

Over a 100,000 Americans died in 1957 and 1968 ..........the world didn't get shut down for it..........

Perhaps Tricky dick caused a lot of the Stock Market BS with coming off Gold though..........so the Money laundered bets from the Federal Reserve don't screw the country when someone FARTS.

Still not nearly as bad as COVID-19.

'Based on population then versus now....I disagree.............and give that Statistics on these are EDUCATED GUESSES.........what people GUESS may be WRONG.........

The Virus will do what it wants to do..........you aren't gonna stop it......and they sure as hell haven't stopped it in China...........No damned way they did that.

So the brightest minds that have worked in infectious disease and epidemiology sit you down and say they think COVID could kill 2 million without significant costly mitigation.

No one in the world has the balls to ignore that.

Well put, we can't sacrifice 2.2m for a "brief shutdown".
That said, we can't keep the shutdown going any longer than absolutely necessary, especially knowing that some genius somewhere will find a vaccine or medication this year.

They already found them, it's just that they have to go through a lot of testing. The earliest all this can be completed is probably next year.

True, but new vaccines are being discovered all the time, look at the test development, company by company
1. CDC painfully slow tests, no capacity
2. Automated tests, faster results (Roche, et.al)
3. 15-minute test results (Avid)
4. 5-minute test results (Abbot Labs)

Vaccines are in testing, but I saw on TV a new one from tobacco plants that might be a game-changer, hope it pans out.

British American Tobacco Claims It’s Close to a Plant-Based COVID-19 Vaccine

In one of the stranger plot twists to emerge from the coronavirus pandemic, British American Tobacco (NYSE: BTI) issued a news release today stating it is helping to develop a COVID-19 vaccine through a process using tobacco plants. Kentucky BioProcessing, a subsidiary of Britis

www.nasdaq.com

I just read a story today out of California. It's a short read if you care to look at it.

'Pandemic' scientist says his team has discovered potential cure for COVID-19

Dr. Jacob Glanville's team took antibodies used to neutralize SARS and used technology in their lab to adapt them to recognize COVID-19.

www.cbs8.com

Thats promising but there is really great news for liberals coming out of the CDC

the docs have announced that erectile dysfunction drugs are useful for fighting the wuhan virus

Great. Now they will want more Planned Parenthood funding in the next stimulus.

No more "stimulus", fuck that!

40 acres and a tractor!

Not getting enough? Democrats wanted a $200.00mo. permanent COLA for social security recipients. NO GO said the Republicans.

Why do ss recipients deserve $200 more?

If ss is all they have they have led wasted lives

Retirement accounts lost $2.8 trillion in the last two quarters of 2008. I can't even imagine what this Republican fuck-up will cause.

Putting your usual partisanship aside, the retirement accounts will lose a lot

which is another reason why this shutdown must end sooner rather than later

I'm waiting for Trump to task the governors to create "county commissars" to start approving "reopen plans" for businesses that implement the (15) safeguards to keep COVID from spreading. As the number of new infections starts coming down we could start re-opening businesses starting with the obvious "no brainers". For bigger or more complex businesses the state should be consulted. At least this would start reducing the number of unemployed and saving businesses.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Not on USMB. They all seem to be business owners, work from home, independently wealthy, or early retired. I don't recall meeting one liberal on here that is a blue collar worker.

There’s a lot of prejudice against liberals. I’ve been told many times by USMB members that I cannot be successful simply because I have liberal political views.

I'm just giving my observation. I've been here almost five years, and have been in other forums before this one. It's like that everywhere I go. Every liberal is at least college educated. Every liberal has a business or is independently wealthy, or early retired because they made so much money in life. Me??? I'm the only truck driver in the place.

Why don't I believe it? Because I do know "real" wealthy people and business owners, and very few are for Democrat plans of ridiculous taxation, tons of business regulations, more government control of businesses, and a high national minimum wage. These are things the poor usually embrace.

Liberals claim to be business owners yet they think its as easy as putting a sign over the door and raking in the money

they are clueless

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Silly billy. I’m a business owner but one who has their priorities straight.

Is so you should not be dumping hate on small businesses that being hit the hardest by this economic shutdown

I was only dumping on the idea that the economic shutdown is more important than the health and lives of our fellow Americans.

Bullshit

Your stupid comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage was nothing but you looking down on small businesses that are working on a small margin between success and failure

I was only looking down on you and your opinion. The small business owners I know that have shut down are doing so to help the community because that’s their first priority.

Your attitude reflects the opposite.

Thats a typical lib reaction to anyone that disagrees with you

But how can you be sure that all the small businesses you are laughing at are owned by republican white males who married their baby‘s momma’s and believe in God?

you could be celebrating the demise of some of your own kind

What the hell are you talking about?

I explained why I think you’re wrong. You’ve just whined and bitched about me.

I am reacting to your opening comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage that you have yet to take back

Was I not being PC enough for you?

You were being very lib pc by smearing a group that liberals detest

I wasn’t smearing a group. I was attacking your logic. You don’t speak for all small business owners. Or did I miss the vote making you the spokesman?

I wrote:

“if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you”

and you respond by babbling about retirement in 15 years to acreage

you clearly have led a sheltered life

yeah. And I responded by stating your logic is flawed. We are talking about responding to a crisis as a nation by working back to what is essential for the community.

And you responded by determining what is essential for an individual.

Your focusing on the individual over the community is not the right thing to do now.

Isn't it a fact that socialists and fascists NEVER care for individual rights?

.

During times of national emergency, our nation has always focused at fighting the emergency at the cost of individual rights.

Previous generations haven’t been nearly so whiny about it.

Over a 100,000 Americans died in 1957 and 1968 ..........the world didn't get shut down for it..........

Perhaps Tricky dick caused a lot of the Stock Market BS with coming off Gold though..........so the Money laundered bets from the Federal Reserve don't screw the country when someone FARTS.

Still not nearly as bad as COVID-19.

'Based on population then versus now....I disagree.............and give that Statistics on these are EDUCATED GUESSES.........what people GUESS may be WRONG.........

The Virus will do what it wants to do..........you aren't gonna stop it......and they sure as hell haven't stopped it in China...........No damned way they did that.

So the brightest minds that have worked in infectious disease and epidemiology sit you down and say they think COVID could kill 2 million without significant costly mitigation.

No one in the world has the balls to ignore that.

Well put, we can't sacrifice 2.2m for a "brief shutdown".
That said, we can't keep the shutdown going any longer than absolutely necessary, especially knowing that some genius somewhere will find a vaccine or medication this year.

They already found them, it's just that they have to go through a lot of testing. The earliest all this can be completed is probably next year.

True, but new vaccines are being discovered all the time, look at the test development, company by company
1. CDC painfully slow tests, no capacity
2. Automated tests, faster results (Roche, et.al)
3. 15-minute test results (Avid)
4. 5-minute test results (Abbot Labs)

Vaccines are in testing, but I saw on TV a new one from tobacco plants that might be a game-changer, hope it pans out.

British American Tobacco Claims It’s Close to a Plant-Based COVID-19 Vaccine

In one of the stranger plot twists to emerge from the coronavirus pandemic, British American Tobacco (NYSE: BTI) issued a news release today stating it is helping to develop a COVID-19 vaccine through a process using tobacco plants. Kentucky BioProcessing, a subsidiary of Britis

www.nasdaq.com

I just read a story today out of California. It's a short read if you care to look at it.

'Pandemic' scientist says his team has discovered potential cure for COVID-19

Dr. Jacob Glanville's team took antibodies used to neutralize SARS and used technology in their lab to adapt them to recognize COVID-19.

www.cbs8.com

Thats promising but there is really great news for liberals coming out of the CDC

the docs have announced that erectile dysfunction drugs are useful for fighting the wuhan virus

Great. Now they will want more Planned Parenthood funding in the next stimulus.

No more "stimulus", fuck that!

40 acres and a tractor!

Not getting enough? Democrats wanted a $200.00mo. permanent COLA for social security recipients. NO GO said the Republicans.

Why do ss recipients deserve $200 more?

If ss is all they have they have led wasted lives

Retirement accounts lost $2.8 trillion in the last two quarters of 2008. I can't even imagine what this Republican fuck-up will cause.

Only somebody in total ignorance can think a worldwide pandemic is the Republican parties fault.

 

[OnePercenter]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Not on USMB. They all seem to be business owners, work from home, independently wealthy, or early retired. I don't recall meeting one liberal on here that is a blue collar worker.

There’s a lot of prejudice against liberals. I’ve been told many times by USMB members that I cannot be successful simply because I have liberal political views.

I'm just giving my observation. I've been here almost five years, and have been in other forums before this one. It's like that everywhere I go. Every liberal is at least college educated. Every liberal has a business or is independently wealthy, or early retired because they made so much money in life. Me??? I'm the only truck driver in the place.

Why don't I believe it? Because I do know "real" wealthy people and business owners, and very few are for Democrat plans of ridiculous taxation, tons of business regulations, more government control of businesses, and a high national minimum wage. These are things the poor usually embrace.

Liberals claim to be business owners yet they think its as easy as putting a sign over the door and raking in the money

they are clueless

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Silly billy. I’m a business owner but one who has their priorities straight.

Is so you should not be dumping hate on small businesses that being hit the hardest by this economic shutdown

I was only dumping on the idea that the economic shutdown is more important than the health and lives of our fellow Americans.

Bullshit

Your stupid comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage was nothing but you looking down on small businesses that are working on a small margin between success and failure

I was only looking down on you and your opinion. The small business owners I know that have shut down are doing so to help the community because that’s their first priority.

Your attitude reflects the opposite.

Thats a typical lib reaction to anyone that disagrees with you

But how can you be sure that all the small businesses you are laughing at are owned by republican white males who married their baby‘s momma’s and believe in God?

you could be celebrating the demise of some of your own kind

What the hell are you talking about?

I explained why I think you’re wrong. You’ve just whined and bitched about me.

I am reacting to your opening comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage that you have yet to take back

Was I not being PC enough for you?

You were being very lib pc by smearing a group that liberals detest

I wasn’t smearing a group. I was attacking your logic. You don’t speak for all small business owners. Or did I miss the vote making you the spokesman?

I wrote:

“if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you”

and you respond by babbling about retirement in 15 years to acreage

you clearly have led a sheltered life

yeah. And I responded by stating your logic is flawed. We are talking about responding to a crisis as a nation by working back to what is essential for the community.

And you responded by determining what is essential for an individual.

Your focusing on the individual over the community is not the right thing to do now.

Isn't it a fact that socialists and fascists NEVER care for individual rights?

.

During times of national emergency, our nation has always focused at fighting the emergency at the cost of individual rights.

Previous generations haven’t been nearly so whiny about it.

Over a 100,000 Americans died in 1957 and 1968 ..........the world didn't get shut down for it..........

Perhaps Tricky dick caused a lot of the Stock Market BS with coming off Gold though..........so the Money laundered bets from the Federal Reserve don't screw the country when someone FARTS.

Still not nearly as bad as COVID-19.

'Based on population then versus now....I disagree.............and give that Statistics on these are EDUCATED GUESSES.........what people GUESS may be WRONG.........

The Virus will do what it wants to do..........you aren't gonna stop it......and they sure as hell haven't stopped it in China...........No damned way they did that.

So the brightest minds that have worked in infectious disease and epidemiology sit you down and say they think COVID could kill 2 million without significant costly mitigation.

No one in the world has the balls to ignore that.

Well put, we can't sacrifice 2.2m for a "brief shutdown".
That said, we can't keep the shutdown going any longer than absolutely necessary, especially knowing that some genius somewhere will find a vaccine or medication this year.

They already found them, it's just that they have to go through a lot of testing. The earliest all this can be completed is probably next year.

True, but new vaccines are being discovered all the time, look at the test development, company by company
1. CDC painfully slow tests, no capacity
2. Automated tests, faster results (Roche, et.al)
3. 15-minute test results (Avid)
4. 5-minute test results (Abbot Labs)

Vaccines are in testing, but I saw on TV a new one from tobacco plants that might be a game-changer, hope it pans out.

British American Tobacco Claims It’s Close to a Plant-Based COVID-19 Vaccine

In one of the stranger plot twists to emerge from the coronavirus pandemic, British American Tobacco (NYSE: BTI) issued a news release today stating it is helping to develop a COVID-19 vaccine through a process using tobacco plants. Kentucky BioProcessing, a subsidiary of Britis

www.nasdaq.com

I just read a story today out of California. It's a short read if you care to look at it.

'Pandemic' scientist says his team has discovered potential cure for COVID-19

Dr. Jacob Glanville's team took antibodies used to neutralize SARS and used technology in their lab to adapt them to recognize COVID-19.

www.cbs8.com

Thats promising but there is really great news for liberals coming out of the CDC

the docs have announced that erectile dysfunction drugs are useful for fighting the wuhan virus

Great. Now they will want more Planned Parenthood funding in the next stimulus.

No more "stimulus", fuck that!

40 acres and a tractor!

Not getting enough? Democrats wanted a $200.00mo. permanent COLA for social security recipients. NO GO said the Republicans.

Why do ss recipients deserve $200 more?

If ss is all they have they have led wasted lives

Retirement accounts lost $2.8 trillion in the last two quarters of 2008. I can't even imagine what this Republican fuck-up will cause.

Putting your usual partisanship aside, the retirement accounts will lose a lot

which is another reason why this shutdown must end sooner rather than later

If Republicans would have acted responsibly, retirement accounts would have lost much less if any.

 

[OnePercenter]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Not on USMB. They all seem to be business owners, work from home, independently wealthy, or early retired. I don't recall meeting one liberal on here that is a blue collar worker.

There’s a lot of prejudice against liberals. I’ve been told many times by USMB members that I cannot be successful simply because I have liberal political views.

I'm just giving my observation. I've been here almost five years, and have been in other forums before this one. It's like that everywhere I go. Every liberal is at least college educated. Every liberal has a business or is independently wealthy, or early retired because they made so much money in life. Me??? I'm the only truck driver in the place.

Why don't I believe it? Because I do know "real" wealthy people and business owners, and very few are for Democrat plans of ridiculous taxation, tons of business regulations, more government control of businesses, and a high national minimum wage. These are things the poor usually embrace.

Liberals claim to be business owners yet they think its as easy as putting a sign over the door and raking in the money

they are clueless

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Silly billy. I’m a business owner but one who has their priorities straight.

Is so you should not be dumping hate on small businesses that being hit the hardest by this economic shutdown

I was only dumping on the idea that the economic shutdown is more important than the health and lives of our fellow Americans.

Bullshit

Your stupid comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage was nothing but you looking down on small businesses that are working on a small margin between success and failure

I was only looking down on you and your opinion. The small business owners I know that have shut down are doing so to help the community because that’s their first priority.

Your attitude reflects the opposite.

Thats a typical lib reaction to anyone that disagrees with you

But how can you be sure that all the small businesses you are laughing at are owned by republican white males who married their baby‘s momma’s and believe in God?

you could be celebrating the demise of some of your own kind

What the hell are you talking about?

I explained why I think you’re wrong. You’ve just whined and bitched about me.

I am reacting to your opening comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage that you have yet to take back

Was I not being PC enough for you?

You were being very lib pc by smearing a group that liberals detest

I wasn’t smearing a group. I was attacking your logic. You don’t speak for all small business owners. Or did I miss the vote making you the spokesman?

I wrote:

“if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you”

and you respond by babbling about retirement in 15 years to acreage

you clearly have led a sheltered life

yeah. And I responded by stating your logic is flawed. We are talking about responding to a crisis as a nation by working back to what is essential for the community.

And you responded by determining what is essential for an individual.

Your focusing on the individual over the community is not the right thing to do now.

Isn't it a fact that socialists and fascists NEVER care for individual rights?

.

During times of national emergency, our nation has always focused at fighting the emergency at the cost of individual rights.

Previous generations haven’t been nearly so whiny about it.

Over a 100,000 Americans died in 1957 and 1968 ..........the world didn't get shut down for it..........

Perhaps Tricky dick caused a lot of the Stock Market BS with coming off Gold though..........so the Money laundered bets from the Federal Reserve don't screw the country when someone FARTS.

Still not nearly as bad as COVID-19.

'Based on population then versus now....I disagree.............and give that Statistics on these are EDUCATED GUESSES.........what people GUESS may be WRONG.........

The Virus will do what it wants to do..........you aren't gonna stop it......and they sure as hell haven't stopped it in China...........No damned way they did that.

So the brightest minds that have worked in infectious disease and epidemiology sit you down and say they think COVID could kill 2 million without significant costly mitigation.

No one in the world has the balls to ignore that.

Well put, we can't sacrifice 2.2m for a "brief shutdown".
That said, we can't keep the shutdown going any longer than absolutely necessary, especially knowing that some genius somewhere will find a vaccine or medication this year.

They already found them, it's just that they have to go through a lot of testing. The earliest all this can be completed is probably next year.

True, but new vaccines are being discovered all the time, look at the test development, company by company
1. CDC painfully slow tests, no capacity
2. Automated tests, faster results (Roche, et.al)
3. 15-minute test results (Avid)
4. 5-minute test results (Abbot Labs)

Vaccines are in testing, but I saw on TV a new one from tobacco plants that might be a game-changer, hope it pans out.

British American Tobacco Claims It’s Close to a Plant-Based COVID-19 Vaccine

In one of the stranger plot twists to emerge from the coronavirus pandemic, British American Tobacco (NYSE: BTI) issued a news release today stating it is helping to develop a COVID-19 vaccine through a process using tobacco plants. Kentucky BioProcessing, a subsidiary of Britis

www.nasdaq.com

I just read a story today out of California. It's a short read if you care to look at it.

'Pandemic' scientist says his team has discovered potential cure for COVID-19

Dr. Jacob Glanville's team took antibodies used to neutralize SARS and used technology in their lab to adapt them to recognize COVID-19.

www.cbs8.com

Thats promising but there is really great news for liberals coming out of the CDC

the docs have announced that erectile dysfunction drugs are useful for fighting the wuhan virus

Great. Now they will want more Planned Parenthood funding in the next stimulus.

No more "stimulus", fuck that!

40 acres and a tractor!

Not getting enough? Democrats wanted a $200.00mo. permanent COLA for social security recipients. NO GO said the Republicans.

Why do ss recipients deserve $200 more?

If ss is all they have they have led wasted lives

Retirement accounts lost $2.8 trillion in the last two quarters of 2008. I can't even imagine what this Republican fuck-up will cause.

Only somebody in total ignorance can think a worldwide pandemic is the Republican parties fault.

I thought you made it very clear when you wrote "not my problem."

 

[linux07]

 

[Mac-7]

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Not on USMB. They all seem to be business owners, work from home, independently wealthy, or early retired. I don't recall meeting one liberal on here that is a blue collar worker.

There’s a lot of prejudice against liberals. I’ve been told many times by USMB members that I cannot be successful simply because I have liberal political views.

I'm just giving my observation. I've been here almost five years, and have been in other forums before this one. It's like that everywhere I go. Every liberal is at least college educated. Every liberal has a business or is independently wealthy, or early retired because they made so much money in life. Me??? I'm the only truck driver in the place.

Why don't I believe it? Because I do know "real" wealthy people and business owners, and very few are for Democrat plans of ridiculous taxation, tons of business regulations, more government control of businesses, and a high national minimum wage. These are things the poor usually embrace.

Liberals claim to be business owners yet they think its as easy as putting a sign over the door and raking in the money

they are clueless

I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence

~S~

But you cant have it both ways

Kind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.

Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War II

As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!

I guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....

Remember unemployed people

like me> non essential, & wanting to work?

Someone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.

Grand, take a few months of w/out pay

and get back to us then

~S~

Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.

There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.

Non essential to who?

if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you

there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with

but they dont represent most Americans

Essential typically means necessary for survival today. Essential does not mean necessary to retire to an acreage in 15 years.

I would not expect a liberal to understand free enterprise

libs tend to be students, government workers, cogs in a giant corporation or welfare bums

Silly billy. I’m a business owner but one who has their priorities straight.

Is so you should not be dumping hate on small businesses that being hit the hardest by this economic shutdown

I was only dumping on the idea that the economic shutdown is more important than the health and lives of our fellow Americans.

Bullshit

Your stupid comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage was nothing but you looking down on small businesses that are working on a small margin between success and failure

I was only looking down on you and your opinion. The small business owners I know that have shut down are doing so to help the community because that’s their first priority.

Your attitude reflects the opposite.

Thats a typical lib reaction to anyone that disagrees with you

But how can you be sure that all the small businesses you are laughing at are owned by republican white males who married their baby‘s momma’s and believe in God?

you could be celebrating the demise of some of your own kind

What the hell are you talking about?

I explained why I think you’re wrong. You’ve just whined and bitched about me.

I am reacting to your opening comment about retiring in 15 years to acreage that you have yet to take back

Was I not being PC enough for you?

You were being very lib pc by smearing a group that liberals detest

I wasn’t smearing a group. I was attacking your logic. You don’t speak for all small business owners. Or did I miss the vote making you the spokesman?

I wrote:

“if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you”

and you respond by babbling about retirement in 15 years to acreage

you clearly have led a sheltered life

yeah. And I responded by stating your logic is flawed. We are talking about responding to a crisis as a nation by working back to what is essential for the community.

And you responded by determining what is essential for an individual.

Your focusing on the individual over the community is not the right thing to do now.

Isn't it a fact that socialists and fascists NEVER care for individual rights?

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During times of national emergency, our nation has always focused at fighting the emergency at the cost of individual rights.

Previous generations haven’t been nearly so whiny about it.

Over a 100,000 Americans died in 1957 and 1968 ..........the world didn't get shut down for it..........

Perhaps Tricky dick caused a lot of the Stock Market BS with coming off Gold though..........so the Money laundered bets from the Federal Reserve don't screw the country when someone FARTS.

Still not nearly as bad as COVID-19.

'Based on population then versus now....I disagree.............and give that Statistics on these are EDUCATED GUESSES.........what people GUESS may be WRONG.........

The Virus will do what it wants to do..........you aren't gonna stop it......and they sure as hell haven't stopped it in China...........No damned way they did that.

So the brightest minds that have worked in infectious disease and epidemiology sit you down and say they think COVID could kill 2 million without significant costly mitigation.

No one in the world has the balls to ignore that.

Well put, we can't sacrifice 2.2m for a "brief shutdown".
That said, we can't keep the shutdown going any longer than absolutely necessary, especially knowing that some genius somewhere will find a vaccine or medication this year.

They already found them, it's just that they have to go through a lot of testing. The earliest all this can be completed is probably next year.

True, but new vaccines are being discovered all the time, look at the test development, company by company
1. CDC painfully slow tests, no capacity
2. Automated tests, faster results (Roche, et.al)
3. 15-minute test results (Avid)
4. 5-minute test results (Abbot Labs)

Vaccines are in testing, but I saw on TV a new one from tobacco plants that might be a game-changer, hope it pans out.

British American Tobacco Claims It’s Close to a Plant-Based COVID-19 Vaccine

In one of the stranger plot twists to emerge from the coronavirus pandemic, British American Tobacco (NYSE: BTI) issued a news release today stating it is helping to develop a COVID-19 vaccine through a process using tobacco plants. Kentucky BioProcessing, a subsidiary of Britis

www.nasdaq.com

I just read a story today out of California. It's a short read if you care to look at it.

'Pandemic' scientist says his team has discovered potential cure for COVID-19

Dr. Jacob Glanville's team took antibodies used to neutralize SARS and used technology in their lab to adapt them to recognize COVID-19.

www.cbs8.com

Thats promising but there is really great news for liberals coming out of the CDC

the docs have announced that erectile dysfunction drugs are useful for fighting the wuhan virus

Great. Now they will want more Planned Parenthood funding in the next stimulus.

No more "stimulus", fuck that!

40 acres and a tractor!

Not getting enough? Democrats wanted a $200.00mo. permanent COLA for social security recipients. NO GO said the Republicans.

Why do ss recipients deserve $200 more?

If ss is all they have they have led wasted lives

Retirement accounts lost $2.8 trillion in the last two quarters of 2008. I can't even imagine what this Republican fuck-up will cause.

Putting your usual partisanship aside, the retirement accounts will lose a lot

which is another reason why this shutdown must end sooner rather than later

If Republicans would have acted responsibly, retirement accounts would have lost much less if any.

thats liberal bullshit

despite slanted reports coming out of china it in chaos

the china virus is raving europe just as it is in America

 

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AMERICA must come together and defeat the idiocy of Donald Trump and his cult.

TDS morons like you are the source of all the idiocy.

 

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I'm seeing a lot of discussion but can't figure out who has the majority.

To re-open the US economy in a limited fashion around Easter Monday (4/13/20) with masks, social distancing, no sports venues, no cruises, or major crowds, just minimal re-opening businesses. The object is to keep as many companies in-business as possible.

Trump wants to reopen US businesses in weeks 'not months' even as deaths rise â as it happened

Democrats voted to oppose motion on the coronavirus stimulus bill, while Dr Anthony Fauci and others warn against scaling back social distancing

www.theguardian.com

Or, keep the economy and businesses shutdown until the coronavirus (COVID-19) is under control as recommended by the doctors, even if that means that many businesses would NOT re-open due to the lost revenue and bankruptcy.

All of the lock down measures that I've seen, have not been effective, as near as I can tell.
The clear example of this, would be Italy, which is again as near as I can tell, has the most strict and harsh lock down measure of any country.

Yet virus infections are still rising.

So.... given there doesn't seem to be much value in lock down, then we are left with a pointless policy that damages the entire economy. Corona, no matter which way you look at it, will be short term. Damage to the economy will be long term.

Now I do understand the logic, of trying to flatten the curve, and prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed. Again... not seeing that this is working.

I didn't know that Italy shutdown the entire country. Last I heard it was just the northern part.

Coronavirus: Italy bans any movement inside country as toll nears 5,500

PM shuts down all non-essential factories and businesses as lockdowns spread across the world

www.theguardian.com

The US needs to do as many other mitigation measures as possible to minimize the spread. Whether its no public transportation, or mandatory testing and temperature testing at work, or taking medications such as in this CDC link:

Healthcare Workers

COVID-19 guidance, tools, and resources for healthcare workers.

www.cdc.gov

I'm not sure about schools or colleges. Still think they need to do their work online.

IMHO it shouldn't be any worse than normal flu, but it could be.
Still we can't stop working or the economy collapses.

Opening non-essential business is just recipe to kill people and overwhelm and destroy the healthcare system. Its not about the economy, its about defeating the enemy. In this case the enemy is a Pathogen that is killing people. There is only one way to kill the Pathogen.

The will be no eradication of the virus. The reality is that it is with us for many months and will eventually reach 40-80% of the worlds population. All we can do is buy some time and find a proper balance without crippling the entire country. Can anyone really envision a lockdown lasting 18 months?
Dr. Osterholm believes shutdowns really have no long term effect. We have to decide to learn how to live with it. No economy or the world can stand a long term shutdown.

America must confront 'how we're going to live with' coronavirus, disease specialist says

The rapid spread of the virus across the country have prompted local and state officials to roll out stringent mitigation policies.

www.google.com

If the equation was only measured in lives then we should shut down everything every winter as influenza kills tens of thousands.
Save us the fear based hyperbole.

only about 20% of the population contracted swine flu, so I don't know where these 40%-80% figures come from.

 

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How small businesses benefit from new law with grants from their own banks:

New Video: Paycheck Protection Program Explained - Job Creators Network

Beginning April 3rd, small businesses are able to apply for financial relief through the Paycheck Protection Program. The program is part of the recently passed CARES Act and provides $349 billion to small businesses to help them weather the economic challenges posed by the coronavirus outbreak...

www.jobcreatorsnetwork.com

Here is the application form from SBA:

https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/136/Paycheck-Protection-Program-Application-3-30-2020-v3.pdf