Mac-7
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Japan restricted travel from china just about the same time trump didJapan did nothing differently than the USJapan does not have a national shutdown or quarentine in place like America hasPutting America on an extended stay at home vacation for 4 months may not destroy AmericaNon essential to who?I've always been attracted to the upper quintile, albeit them usually being social outcasts , and what i've noted is they may be God's in whatever they do best, but often lack the simple down to earth common sense to apply it toward the rest of their existence
~S~But you cant have it both waysKind of like what they did in 2008, where all the working folks got kind of screwed.Consider it the government paying you to STAY HOME, just as we paid soldiers to go overseas and fight Nazi's in foreign countries in World War III guess it's nice to be considered 'essential' then....As I said before, the ESSENTIAL SERVICES ECONOMY IS BOOMING RIGHT NOW. Its never been a better time to be employed in the production and distribution of FOOD and MEDICINE!
like me> non essential, & wanting to work?Remember unemployed people
Grand, take a few months of w/out paySomeone temporarily losing their non-essential service job is nothing compared to the disaster that is happening in hospitals across the country, especially New York City.
and get back to us then
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Sorry, but killing people to open up your non-essential job is not worth it for the country. STAY HOME AND SAVE LIVES! The country is at war with a PATHOGEN and people going to work in their non-essential business's provide the pathogen with a means to spread and kill more people.
There are homeless people out there in worse shape than these people at home from their non-essential business's. Don't aid the enemy, STAY HOME! This is a national effort to defeat the pathogen.
if your economic future depends on a small business that you built from the ground up its very essential to you
there are a lot of odd ducks on this forum who are retired or foreigners, or in some other way not part of the regular economy to begin with
but they dont represent most Americans
To the country as a whole. This is a national crises. Were fighting an enemy right now that requires Americans to isolate from each other as much as possible. That's reality. Your primary goal is to isolate your self as much as possible and keep yourself fed. That's why the government is sending Americans 2 Trillion dollars in aid. This is about survival, just like in a Tornado, Hurricane, War etc. When its over, you can go about repairing the damage. Right now, your primary concerns are food, water, shelter and isolation from other people.
The idea that shutting down the non-essential parts of the economy will destroy America forever is absurd. Germany and Japan survived World War II, and they had far more than just non-essential parts of their economy shut down. Those countries were in ruins at the end of 1945, totally bombed out from city to city and in the case of Japan NUKED.
Your county though should address anyone that has problems with FOOD, shelter, water, or electricity until this crises is over.
but it could destroy a lot of American small businesses
not that that would mean anything to you I suppose
We have to put America back to work at the earliest possible moment
Over 1,000 Americans died today from coronavirus and you think this is a time to be worried about non-essential business? Most of these non-essential business's will come back and for the business's that don't, people will migrate to another business.
In the meantime, JAPAN only has 57 deaths despite having an older more vulnerable population. Taiwan only has 5 deaths. The difference in the figures in the United States vs. Japan/Taiwan show the scale of Trump's failure to protect the American population.
japan is open for business
so is sweden
Sweden is playing with fire for their population of 10 million people. They have 5,466 cases, one of the highest case counts per capita in the world and 282 dead. Not good results given the small population.
Japan has the luxury of being open for business, because they took steps back in January to prevent large penetration of the virus into the country. When you don't have community spread in the country, contact tracing is enough to contain the virus.
The United States could have been like Japan, but Donald Trump failed to enact the same measures Japan did back in January.
and sweden has done less
Japan sealed of the country from foreign travel and other contacts. They had testing in place from day 1 and were able to do contact tracing on all their infections and isolate them. The United States did not shut down foreign travel and had no testing capability like Japan did back in January. Without widespread testing capability, you don't know who is infected and can't do contact tracing to isolate the infected.
Its the same with Taiwan. You block foreign travel and contacts to prevent as much of the infection from getting inside the country. You then follow up with mass testing, contact tracing, and isolation of the infected.
When you contain the problem EARLY, you can remain open domestically.
The United States could have saved thousands of lives and kept the economy humming if it was prepared with testing capabilities, and contact tracing capabilities and had shut down foreign travel and contacts like Taiwan and Japan did in January.
Instead of preparing for this threat since January 2017, Trump handicapped the country's ability to deal with this threat but cutting funding and disbanding a group on the National Security Council meant to deal with a pandemic.
Except there is no truth to that. Need the factcheck link, just ask.
We have an entirely different system of government than others. One person does not have the ability to just shutdown the country at will. Remember what the Democrats were doing at the beginning of last month? They were passing a bill to restrict the Presidents ability to institute travel bans. When he placed a travel ban on African countries, the Democrats said it was out of racism.
Other countries don't have the bureaucracies we do either. The CDC had the only test kits for this virus that had FDA approval. When they started to use them, they found out the kits were defective. Then we had to wait around for the FDA to approve other kits. They don't have all this red tape in other places.
It was only last week the FDA approved of the use of hydroxychloroquine, and over the weekend, finally approved of sterilizing N-95 face masks. It's April 2nd today.
Sorry, but those are the facts. You can stop the spread of covid-19 in your country when you enact travel bans and other restrictions on foreign contacts EARLY. Japan and Taiwan did that. They then had testing ability and contact tracing to track and isolate the small number of infections that got through. When you do that, you can remain relatively open because inside the country, the virus is contained.
Donald Trump has been President since January 20, 2017. He had three years to prepare the CDC and healthcare community for this crises. He failed to do any of that. Instead, he cut funding and disbanded the pandemic group on the National Security Council that was helping to prepare the country for the next pandemic.