[POLL] - Liberals, how much is a "fair share?" - Taxes

[PMZ]

"Anarchy" means non rule. It's the very definition of freedom.

It means rule by the guy with the biggest club. It's how wildlife lives. If that floats your boat, have at it.

No, that's what we have now, rule by the guy or group with the biggest club. Anarchy is non rule. It means people minding their own business.

Why, exactly should Fred mind his own business when he can smash in your head with his biggest club and steal your daughter?

 

[bripat9643]

It means rule by the guy with the biggest club. It's how wildlife lives. If that floats your boat, have at it.

No, that's what we have now, rule by the guy or group with the biggest club. Anarchy is non rule. It means people minding their own business.

Why, exactly should Fred mind his own business when he can smash in your head with his biggest club and steal your daughter?

So you think your neighbors are homicidal maniacs and rapists. That explains your fascist attitude about government. Fred is going to mind his own business because he knows that most people have families who are going to hound him to his grave if he murders one of their offspring or siblings. That's why people didn't kill each other before the state took over running our lives.

 

[PMZ]

No, that's what we have now, rule by the guy or group with the biggest club. Anarchy is non rule. It means people minding their own business.

Why, exactly should Fred mind his own business when he can smash in your head with his biggest club and steal your daughter?

So you think your neighbors are homicidal maniacs and rapists. That explains your fascist attitude about government. Fred is going to mind his own business because he knows that most people have families who are going to hound him to his grave if he murders one of their offspring or siblings. That's why people didn't kill each other before the state took over running our lives.

"So you think your neighbors are homicidal maniacs and rapists."

There's no doubt about it.

"That's why people didn't kill each other before the state took over running our lives."

What planet are you from?

 

[FA_Q2]

Why, exactly should Fred mind his own business when he can smash in your head with his biggest club and steal your daughter?

So you think your neighbors are homicidal maniacs and rapists. That explains your fascist attitude about government. Fred is going to mind his own business because he knows that most people have families who are going to hound him to his grave if he murders one of their offspring or siblings. That's why people didn't kill each other before the state took over running our lives.

"So you think your neighbors are homicidal maniacs and rapists."

There's no doubt about it.

"That's why people didn't kill each other before the state took over running our lives."

What planet are you from?

Wow, just wow.

I would have taken what bripat said as a mischaracterization by using obviously super extreme examples to paint with a broad stroke but here you are admitting that you actually believe something so absolutely asinine.

If people were inherently bad then we would have never made it this far. The fact is that people are inherently social animals and are mostly good when left to their own devices. It is outright scary that we actually have people that hold a view like what you just admitted to having. What is it like living in continuous fear of your neighbor to the point that you need nanny state government to keep you safe at night?

 

[PMZ]

So you think your neighbors are homicidal maniacs and rapists. That explains your fascist attitude about government. Fred is going to mind his own business because he knows that most people have families who are going to hound him to his grave if he murders one of their offspring or siblings. That's why people didn't kill each other before the state took over running our lives.

"So you think your neighbors are homicidal maniacs and rapists."

There's no doubt about it.

"That's why people didn't kill each other before the state took over running our lives."

What planet are you from?

Wow, just wow.

I would have taken what bripat said as a mischaracterization by using obviously super extreme examples to paint with a broad stroke but here you are admitting that you actually believe something so absolutely asinine.

If people were inherently bad then we would have never made it this far. The fact is that people are inherently social animals and are mostly good when left to their own devices. It is outright scary that we actually have people that hold a view like what you just admitted to having. What is it like living in continuous fear of your neighbor to the point that you need nanny state government to keep you safe at night?

We spend a huge amounts of money on laws specifying responsible behavior and law enforcement and adjudication. Yet we still have significant crime.

Yet you say with no laws and no law enforcement and adjudication, people we now define as criminals would become honest, upstanding citizens.

I, honestly, had no idea delusion ran this deep.

Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it.

 

[PMZ]

Next we'll hear that the Taliban are just misunderstood. If we just helped them feel better about themselves their insecurity would go away and with a nice hug we could convert them to loving us.

This from conservatives who recommend a new war every week.

The word 'delusional' is way too weak.

 

[FA_Q2]

"So you think your neighbors are homicidal maniacs and rapists."

There's no doubt about it.

"That's why people didn't kill each other before the state took over running our lives."

What planet are you from?

Wow, just wow.

I would have taken what bripat said as a mischaracterization by using obviously super extreme examples to paint with a broad stroke but here you are admitting that you actually believe something so absolutely asinine.

If people were inherently bad then we would have never made it this far. The fact is that people are inherently social animals and are mostly good when left to their own devices. It is outright scary that we actually have people that hold a view like what you just admitted to having. What is it like living in continuous fear of your neighbor to the point that you need nanny state government to keep you safe at night?

We spend a huge amounts of money on laws specifying responsible behavior and law enforcement and adjudication. Yet we still have significant crime.

Yet you say with no laws and no law enforcement and adjudication, people we now define as criminals would become honest, upstanding citizens.

I, honestly, had no idea delusion ran this deep.

Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it.

No, I didn’t say that at all now did I. The delusion is all on your side of the isle my friend. I can easily construct a bomb tomorrow and kill a hundred people without much effort on my part. I have easy access to the materials needed and they are readily available to many other people. They are not monitored or controlled. I even think that I would not get caught. It is not the jail time that stops me from doing so. The real barrier is that the very concept is horrific.

You stated it yourself as well, we STILL have crime. That is a fact. Obviously those so called laws are not doing much in the way of stopping the criminals either. Incarceration is really what makes the difference – the criminals are removed. The real number that you are missing though is the simple fact that you point out ‘significant’ crime when, in fact, crime is EXTREMELY low. There are 308,745,538 people in this nation. That’s 308 MILLION!
2010 United States Census - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Only 2,418,352 are in prison (2008):
Incarceration in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Many of those did not even commit a ‘crime’ in all honesty as they are there on drug charges that do not have a victim. Even at worst case, you are looking at around 2 percent of people are ‘criminals.’ That number is a LOT lower when you are considering just rape and murder but I will take your comment as symbolic of almost all crimes for the moment. To call your neighbors rapists and murderers is not only a leap in logic – it is completely schizophrenic.

 

[PMZ]

Wow, just wow.

I would have taken what bripat said as a mischaracterization by using obviously super extreme examples to paint with a broad stroke but here you are admitting that you actually believe something so absolutely asinine.

If people were inherently bad then we would have never made it this far. The fact is that people are inherently social animals and are mostly good when left to their own devices. It is outright scary that we actually have people that hold a view like what you just admitted to having. What is it like living in continuous fear of your neighbor to the point that you need nanny state government to keep you safe at night?

We spend a huge amounts of money on laws specifying responsible behavior and law enforcement and adjudication. Yet we still have significant crime.

Yet you say with no laws and no law enforcement and adjudication, people we now define as criminals would become honest, upstanding citizens.

I, honestly, had no idea delusion ran this deep.

Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it.

No, I didn’t say that at all now did I. The delusion is all on your side of the isle my friend. I can easily construct a bomb tomorrow and kill a hundred people without much effort on my part. I have easy access to the materials needed and they are readily available to many other people. They are not monitored or controlled. I even think that I would not get caught. It is not the jail time that stops me from doing so. The real barrier is that the very concept is horrific.

You stated it yourself as well, we STILL have crime. That is a fact. Obviously those so called laws are not doing much in the way of stopping the criminals either. Incarceration is really what makes the difference – the criminals are removed. The real number that you are missing though is the simple fact that you point out ‘significant’ crime when, in fact, crime is EXTREMELY low. There are 308,745,538 people in this nation. That’s 308 MILLION!
2010 United States Census - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Only 2,418,352 are in prison (2008):
Incarceration in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Many of those did not even commit a ‘crime’ in all honesty as they are there on drug charges that do not have a victim. Even at worst case, you are looking at around 2 percent of people are ‘criminals.’ That number is a LOT lower when you are considering just rape and murder but I will take your comment as symbolic of almost all crimes for the moment. To call your neighbors rapists and murderers is not only a leap in logic – it is completely schizophrenic.

Did you forget that Rotweiner was campaigning for anarchy? No government. No laws. No law enforcement. The law of the jungle only. Only the strongest survive. The place that mankind chose to leave thousands of years ago.

The life of gorillas and monkeys.

That's what he thinks of the human race.

 

[RKMBrown]

We spend a huge amounts of money on laws specifying responsible behavior and law enforcement and adjudication. Yet we still have significant crime.

Yet you say with no laws and no law enforcement and adjudication, people we now define as criminals would become honest, upstanding citizens.

I, honestly, had no idea delusion ran this deep.

Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it.

No, I didn’t say that at all now did I. The delusion is all on your side of the isle my friend. I can easily construct a bomb tomorrow and kill a hundred people without much effort on my part. I have easy access to the materials needed and they are readily available to many other people. They are not monitored or controlled. I even think that I would not get caught. It is not the jail time that stops me from doing so. The real barrier is that the very concept is horrific.

You stated it yourself as well, we STILL have crime. That is a fact. Obviously those so called laws are not doing much in the way of stopping the criminals either. Incarceration is really what makes the difference – the criminals are removed. The real number that you are missing though is the simple fact that you point out ‘significant’ crime when, in fact, crime is EXTREMELY low. There are 308,745,538 people in this nation. That’s 308 MILLION!
2010 United States Census - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Only 2,418,352 are in prison (2008):
Incarceration in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Many of those did not even commit a ‘crime’ in all honesty as they are there on drug charges that do not have a victim. Even at worst case, you are looking at around 2 percent of people are ‘criminals.’ That number is a LOT lower when you are considering just rape and murder but I will take your comment as symbolic of almost all crimes for the moment. To call your neighbors rapists and murderers is not only a leap in logic – it is completely schizophrenic.

Did you forget that Rotweiner was campaigning for anarchy? No government. No laws. No law enforcement. The law of the jungle only. Only the strongest survive. The place that mankind chose to leave thousands of years ago.

The life of gorillas and monkeys.

That's what he thinks of the human race.

You are nothing but a little cry baby lying POS authoritarian socialist. You are incapable of telling the truth on any subject. Burn in hell.

 

[PMZ]

No, I didn’t say that at all now did I. The delusion is all on your side of the isle my friend. I can easily construct a bomb tomorrow and kill a hundred people without much effort on my part. I have easy access to the materials needed and they are readily available to many other people. They are not monitored or controlled. I even think that I would not get caught. It is not the jail time that stops me from doing so. The real barrier is that the very concept is horrific.

You stated it yourself as well, we STILL have crime. That is a fact. Obviously those so called laws are not doing much in the way of stopping the criminals either. Incarceration is really what makes the difference – the criminals are removed. The real number that you are missing though is the simple fact that you point out ‘significant’ crime when, in fact, crime is EXTREMELY low. There are 308,745,538 people in this nation. That’s 308 MILLION!
2010 United States Census - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Only 2,418,352 are in prison (2008):
Incarceration in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Many of those did not even commit a ‘crime’ in all honesty as they are there on drug charges that do not have a victim. Even at worst case, you are looking at around 2 percent of people are ‘criminals.’ That number is a LOT lower when you are considering just rape and murder but I will take your comment as symbolic of almost all crimes for the moment. To call your neighbors rapists and murderers is not only a leap in logic – it is completely schizophrenic.

Did you forget that Rotweiner was campaigning for anarchy? No government. No laws. No law enforcement. The law of the jungle only. Only the strongest survive. The place that mankind chose to leave thousands of years ago.

The life of gorillas and monkeys.

That's what he thinks of the human race.

You are nothing but a little cry baby lying POS authoritarian socialist. You are incapable of telling the truth on any subject. Burn in hell.

I saw the movie tonight '12 Years As a Slave'. It showed very well your dixiecrat ancestors. You must be so proud.

 

[Gadawg73]

Next we'll hear that the Taliban are just misunderstood. If we just helped them feel better about themselves their insecurity would go away and with a nice hug we could convert them to loving us.

This from conservatives who recommend a new war every week.

The word 'delusional' is way too weak.

LOL, we started negotiating with the Taliban the minute we toppled them from power. Same with the current Afghan government and the Pakistanis.
You seek to make peace with your enemies as you do not have to with your friends.

 

[PMZ]

Next we'll hear that the Taliban are just misunderstood. If we just helped them feel better about themselves their insecurity would go away and with a nice hug we could convert them to loving us.

This from conservatives who recommend a new war every week.

The word 'delusional' is way too weak.

LOL, we started negotiating with the Taliban the minute we toppled them from power. Same with the current Afghan government and the Pakistanis.
You seek to make peace with your enemies as you do not have to with your friends.

The advantage of having more than half of the military in the world is that it's seen as the biggest club during negotiations.

 

[PMZ]

One thing yesterday proved is that conservatism contains nests of anarchists intent on weakening resistance to them imposing what's best for them on all of us.

Why would we want any, any, of those in our government?

 

[Contumacious]

One thing yesterday proved is that conservatism contains nests of anarchists intent on weakening resistance to them imposing what's best for them on all of us.

We have proven ithat the "Liberals" contains nests of socialists intent on weakening resistance to them imposing what's best for them on all of us.

Why would we want any, any, of those in our government?

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[bripat9643]

One thing yesterday proved is that conservatism contains nests of anarchists intent on weakening resistance to them imposing what's best for them on all of us.

Why would we want any, any, of those in our government?

By definition, an anarchist doesn't want to impose anything on anyone. He simply wants to be left alone. You view not being able to impose your massive taxes and government regulations on others as an imposition on your freedom. Your attitude is purely fascist.

As someone else already posted, why would anyone want a commie like you in the government?

 

[PMZ]

One thing yesterday proved is that conservatism contains nests of anarchists intent on weakening resistance to them imposing what's best for them on all of us.

We have proven ithat the "Liberals" contains nests of socialists intent on weakening resistance to them imposing what's best for them on all of us.

Why would we want any, any, of those in our government?

.

Conservatives are trained to believe everyone left of them are liberals and socialists.

Conservatives are trained to fear the second most common economic system used in the world and our country.

Conservatives are trained to support weak government as strong government is what is in the way of them imposing demonstrably dysfunctional conservatism on the majority.

Conservatives are trained to believe that the tyranny of a minority creates freedom while the democracy of the majority reduces it.

Conservatives are trained to respect only the unamended Constitution that the founders used to establish an aristocracy of wealthy white males.

Conservatives are trained to question science and accept mythology.

Conservatives are trained to believe that spending is the only cause of debt.

Conservatives are trained to believe that unemployed Americans are good because they are desperate and will therefore work for less

Conservatives are trained to believe that hard work is all that's required to be wealthy, and therefore all poor do not work hard enough.

Conservatives are trained to believe that what's wrong with 20% of the people having 85% of the wealth, is that the 20% doesn't have more.

Conservatives are trained to believe that the cause of the decline of America since the rise of conservatism are Democrats, liberals, government, all workers but especially Union members or government workers, all races other than Caucasian, all religions other than Christianity, all nationalities other than American, women, the poor, illegal workers recruited here by business, customers, gays, all of those who don't own guns, the educated and intelligent, young and old people, mainstream media, Al Gore, George Soros, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and all of the Obamas.

Conservatives are trained to goose step with precision.

 

[RKMBrown]

One thing yesterday proved is that conservatism contains nests of anarchists intent on weakening resistance to them imposing what's best for them on all of us.

We have proven ithat the "Liberals" contains nests of socialists intent on weakening resistance to them imposing what's best for them on all of us.

Why would we want any, any, of those in our government?

.

Conservatives are trained to believe everyone left of them are liberals and socialists.

Conservatives are trained to fear the second most common economic system used in the world and our country.

Conservatives are trained to support weak government as strong government is what is in the way of them imposing demonstrably dysfunctional conservatism on the majority.

Conservatives are trained to believe that the tyranny of a minority creates freedom while the democracy of the majority reduces it.

Conservatives are trained to respect only the unamended Constitution that the founders used to establish an aristocracy of wealthy white males.

Conservatives are trained to question science and accept mythology.

Conservatives are trained to believe that spending is the only cause of debt.

Conservatives are trained to believe that unemployed Americans are good because they are desperate and will therefore work for less

Conservatives are trained to believe that hard work is all that's required to be wealthy, and therefore all poor do not work hard enough.

Conservatives are trained to believe that what's wrong with 20% of the people having 85% of the wealth, is that the 20% doesn't have more.

Conservatives are trained to believe that the cause of the decline of America since the rise of conservatism are Democrats, liberals, government, all workers but especially Union members or government workers, all races other than Caucasian, all religions other than Christianity, all nationalities other than American, women, the poor, illegal workers recruited here by business, customers, gays, all of those who don't own guns, the educated and intelligent, young and old people, mainstream media, Al Gore, George Soros, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and all of the Obamas.

Conservatives are trained to goose step with precision.

How many threads are you gonna post that tripe in?

 

[PMZ]

As many as I want to.

 

[bripat9643]

We have proven ithat the "Liberals" contains nests of socialists intent on weakening resistance to them imposing what's best for them on all of us.

Why would we want any, any, of those in our government?

.

Conservatives are trained to believe everyone left of them are liberals and socialists.

Conservatives are trained to fear the second most common economic system used in the world and our country.

Conservatives are trained to support weak government as strong government is what is in the way of them imposing demonstrably dysfunctional conservatism on the majority.

Conservatives are trained to believe that the tyranny of a minority creates freedom while the democracy of the majority reduces it.

Conservatives are trained to respect only the unamended Constitution that the founders used to establish an aristocracy of wealthy white males.

Conservatives are trained to question science and accept mythology.

Conservatives are trained to believe that spending is the only cause of debt.

Conservatives are trained to believe that unemployed Americans are good because they are desperate and will therefore work for less

Conservatives are trained to believe that hard work is all that's required to be wealthy, and therefore all poor do not work hard enough.

Conservatives are trained to believe that what's wrong with 20% of the people having 85% of the wealth, is that the 20% doesn't have more.

Conservatives are trained to believe that the cause of the decline of America since the rise of conservatism are Democrats, liberals, government, all workers but especially Union members or government workers, all races other than Caucasian, all religions other than Christianity, all nationalities other than American, women, the poor, illegal workers recruited here by business, customers, gays, all of those who don't own guns, the educated and intelligent, young and old people, mainstream media, Al Gore, George Soros, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and all of the Obamas.

Conservatives are trained to goose step with precision.

How many threads are you gonna post that tripe in?

Being called a Nazi by everyone in the forum is making him touchy.

 

[PMZ]

Conservatives are trained to believe everyone left of them are liberals and socialists.

Conservatives are trained to fear the second most common economic system used in the world and our country.

Conservatives are trained to support weak government as strong government is what is in the way of them imposing demonstrably dysfunctional conservatism on the majority.

Conservatives are trained to believe that the tyranny of a minority creates freedom while the democracy of the majority reduces it.

Conservatives are trained to respect only the unamended Constitution that the founders used to establish an aristocracy of wealthy white males.

Conservatives are trained to question science and accept mythology.

Conservatives are trained to believe that spending is the only cause of debt.

Conservatives are trained to believe that unemployed Americans are good because they are desperate and will therefore work for less

Conservatives are trained to believe that hard work is all that's required to be wealthy, and therefore all poor do not work hard enough.

Conservatives are trained to believe that what's wrong with 20% of the people having 85% of the wealth, is that the 20% doesn't have more.

Conservatives are trained to believe that the cause of the decline of America since the rise of conservatism are Democrats, liberals, government, all workers but especially Union members or government workers, all races other than Caucasian, all religions other than Christianity, all nationalities other than American, women, the poor, illegal workers recruited here by business, customers, gays, all of those who don't own guns, the educated and intelligent, young and old people, mainstream media, Al Gore, George Soros, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and all of the Obamas.

Conservatives are trained to goose step with precision.

How many threads are you gonna post that tripe in?

Being called a Nazi by everyone in the forum is making him touchy.

Call me whatever you want. What you say reflects you, not me.