Poll: Independents Flip On Impeachment, Now Vastly Opposed After First Two Weeks Of Public Hearings

[JoeB131]

Rudy, Bolton, and Pompeo can testify to any non-crime you can list.
There is always the "Sorry Executive Privilege" non-response. So meh.

Except that wouldn't apply in a Senate Trial. This is why a Senate Trial will be a disaster for Trump.

Roberts would have to rule on "executive privilege"... and frankly, there's no legal reason for him to uphold it in this case. Nixon fought this fight 50 years ago and lost it.

Questions for Hunter Biden:
1. What exactly did you do as director of Burisma and the $million salary? (nothing)
2. Questions about Burisma's connections to the Soros organization.
3. Questions about Burisma corruption.
4. Questions about the investigation that Joe stopped.
5. Questions abouit what happened after Joe stopped Shokin's investigation.
6. Barr and Durham might have better questions after their investigations, especially if they follow the money trail

1- He acted as a board member advising them on corporate governance practices.
2- George Soros is not hiding under your bed.
3- Why would he know about Bursima's corruption before he got there?
4- There was no active investigation when Shokin was fired.
5- There was no active investigation after Shokin was fired, either.
6- Not really, since the IG is already admitting that Trump's paranoid fantasies about spies are exactly that.

 

[lantern2814]

Rudy, Bolton, and Pompeo can testify to any non-crime you can list.
There is always the "Sorry Executive Privilege" non-response. So meh.

Except that wouldn't apply in a Senate Trial. This is why a Senate Trial will be a disaster for Trump.

Roberts would have to rule on "executive privilege"... and frankly, there's no legal reason for him to uphold it in this case. Nixon fought this fight 50 years ago and lost it.

Questions for Hunter Biden:
1. What exactly did you do as director of Burisma and the $million salary? (nothing)
2. Questions about Burisma's connections to the Soros organization.
3. Questions about Burisma corruption.
4. Questions about the investigation that Joe stopped.
5. Questions abouit what happened after Joe stopped Shokin's investigation.
6. Barr and Durham might have better questions after their investigations, especially if they follow the money trail

1- He acted as a board member advising them on corporate governance practices.
2- George Soros is not hiding under your bed.
3- Why would he know about Bursima's corruption before he got there?
4- There was no active investigation when Shokin was fired.
5- There was no active investigation after Shokin was fired, either.
6- Not really, since the IG is already admitting that Trump's paranoid fantasies about spies are exactly that.

Talk about a delusional moron. How loudly are you going to cry when ALL of your witnesses and “evidence” get thrown out because it’s ALL hearsay and thus inadmissible? Apparently the B stands for buffoon. Executive privilege and attorney client privilege still apply despite all the lefts efforts to destroy them.

 

[longknife]

Poll: Independents Flip On Impeachment, Now Vastly Opposed After First Two Weeks Of Public Hearings
Poll: Independents Flip On Impeachment, Now Vastly Opposed After First Two Weeks Of Public Hearings

After the first two weeks of public impeachment hearings, 62 percent of surveyed independents claimed the issue is “more important to politicians than it is to me” while 61 percent answered the same way when asked about the media. Conversely, only 22 percent and 23 percent answered the respective questions in the negative.

Furthermore – when asked to rank 11 issues as top priorities – impeachment placed last among independents, with just 27 percent ranking it as the top priority. For comparison, 74 percent selected the deficit, 72 percent selected healthcare, and 70 percent selected infrastructure spending as the top priority.

ME: Intelligent people saw this coming. I have known all along that impeachment will flop. Its all based on hate and lies, and that sort of thing always fails

The Dims have absolutely nothing positive to run on. Not a single win or something to brag about.

People get tired of that very quickly.

 

[kyzr]

Rudy, Bolton, and Pompeo can testify to any non-crime you can list.
There is always the "Sorry Executive Privilege" non-response. So meh.

Except that wouldn't apply in a Senate Trial. This is why a Senate Trial will be a disaster for Trump.

Roberts would have to rule on "executive privilege"... and frankly, there's no legal reason for him to uphold it in this case. Nixon fought this fight 50 years ago and lost it.

Questions for Hunter Biden:
1. What exactly did you do as director of Burisma and the $million salary? (nothing)
2. Questions about Burisma's connections to the Soros organization.
3. Questions about Burisma corruption.
4. Questions about the investigation that Joe stopped.
5. Questions abouit what happened after Joe stopped Shokin's investigation.
6. Barr and Durham might have better questions after their investigations, especially if they follow the money trail

1- He acted as a board member advising them on corporate governance practices.
2- George Soros is not hiding under your bed.
3- Why would he know about Bursima's corruption before he got there?
4- There was no active investigation when Shokin was fired.
5- There was no active investigation after Shokin was fired, either.
6- Not really, since the IG is already admitting that Trump's paranoid fantasies about spies are exactly that.

1. Hunter never did anything for the money, his dad did. Hunter had no clue about Ukrainian corporate law. Joe stopped an investigation Soros wanted stopped.
Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

2. Soros and Burisma are connected
Adam Schiff witness Taylor has ties to Burisma think tank, Soros, McCain leaker

3. Almost all of Schiffs witnesses testified that Burisma is still corrupt today (even when Hunter is on the Board)
Democrats' Star Witness Admitted Burisma Should Be Investigated

4. Shokin was fired for investigating Burisma.
Ex-Ukraine prosecutor said he was told to back off probe of Biden-linked firm, files show

 

[BluesLegend]

Oh noes another Dem scheme backfires. Its almost as if God is messing with Democrats

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

My list would include:

You forgot Piglosi, she started it all no matter what others say about the left base doing it.

Her pride will be her undoing whether here or there. You can see it oozing from her pours everytime she speaks.

Like it or not, Piglosi is historic being the first female Speaker. On one hand, she doesn't want to lose her seat to the opposing party twice in her career, on the other, she doesn't want to lose it to her side either. She's in a tough position.

She has to find a way to somewhat satisfy the radicals in her party, and the Independent voters. There is no easy solution.

If she held a vote, instructed certain Democrats who are safe in their seat to vote against it, she could say she tried, but the failure was beyond her control. While that would calm the commies, it would also ease the anger, particularly by the Independent voters.

I think that's her only way out of this to try and stay safe.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Agree, but look at the bright side. If they impeach Trump and there is a senate trial then the GOP can call a lot of folks to the stand to testify under oath. My list would include: Schiff, Ciaramella, Chalupa, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Komrads Brennan and Clapper, Comey, Strzok, Page, the Ohrs, McCabe, and the rest of the deep state conspirators.

Also, by the time this is happening, Barr, Huber, and Durham should be coming out with more than a few indictments based on their investigations.

I was watching Laura last week when she had a couple of gusts on (I forget their names now) but they all agreed the Senate trial will be nothing like the House, in that there are no witnesses to testify. They simply present the articles of impeachment, and vote on what they have.

That is not to say it will in any way be a success, but from what they were talking about, hardly satisfactory for us Trump supporters other than the fact they won't have the votes to find him guilty and removed from office.

The IG report coming out also has leakers that say again, it's hardly going to be satisfying in any indictments that will actually reveal what these anti-Americans were up to. But who knows?

I have some faith in Durham only because he turned his investigation criminal so quickly after being started. It tells me he has something, and something good. Will it bring down the entire cabal? I have my doubts.

You can watch the Laura video and put the time arrow on about 13:00 minutes.

insolito

 

[AntonToo]

Rudy, Bolton, and Pompeo can testify to any non-crime you can list.
There is always the "Sorry Executive Privilege" non-response. So meh.

Except that wouldn't apply in a Senate Trial. This is why a Senate Trial will be a disaster for Trump.

Roberts would have to rule on "executive privilege"... and frankly, there's no legal reason for him to uphold it in this case. Nixon fought this fight 50 years ago and lost it.

Questions for Hunter Biden:
1. What exactly did you do as director of Burisma and the $million salary? (nothing)
2. Questions about Burisma's connections to the Soros organization.
3. Questions about Burisma corruption.
4. Questions about the investigation that Joe stopped.
5. Questions abouit what happened after Joe stopped Shokin's investigation.
6. Barr and Durham might have better questions after their investigations, especially if they follow the money trail

1- He acted as a board member advising them on corporate governance practices.
2- George Soros is not hiding under your bed.
3- Why would he know about Bursima's corruption before he got there?
4- There was no active investigation when Shokin was fired.
5- There was no active investigation after Shokin was fired, either.
6- Not really, since the IG is already admitting that Trump's paranoid fantasies about spies are exactly that.

1. Hunter never did anything for the money, his dad did. Hunter had no clue about Ukrainian corporate law. Joe stopped an investigation Soros wanted stopped.
Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

2. Soros and Burisma are connected
Adam Schiff witness Taylor has ties to Burisma think tank, Soros, McCain leaker

3. Almost all of Schiffs witnesses testified that Burisma is still corrupt today (even when Hunter is on the Board)
Democrats' Star Witness Admitted Burisma Should Be Investigated

4. Shokin was fired for investigating Burisma.
Ex-Ukraine prosecutor said he was told to back off probe of Biden-linked firm, files show

Hey dupe, do you even read the half-baked bullshit you link to?

From your first link:
"...two questions remain. One is whether it was ethically improper or even illegal for Biden to intervene to fire the prosecutor handling Burisma’s case"

It makes no real case of any wrong doing by either Biden.

 

[busybee01]

Poll: Independents Flip On Impeachment, Now Vastly Opposed After First Two Weeks Of Public Hearings
Poll: Independents Flip On Impeachment, Now Vastly Opposed After First Two Weeks Of Public Hearings

After the first two weeks of public impeachment hearings, 62 percent of surveyed independents claimed the issue is “more important to politicians than it is to me” while 61 percent answered the same way when asked about the media. Conversely, only 22 percent and 23 percent answered the respective questions in the negative.

Furthermore – when asked to rank 11 issues as top priorities – impeachment placed last among independents, with just 27 percent ranking it as the top priority. For comparison, 74 percent selected the deficit, 72 percent selected healthcare, and 70 percent selected infrastructure spending as the top priority.

ME: Intelligent people saw this coming. I have known all along that impeachment will flop. Its all based on hate and lies, and that sort of thing always fails

False headline. All the poll says is it is not the highest priority. It says nothing about whether he should be impeached or not. Just more fake news.

 

[busybee01]

Agree, but look at the bright side. If they impeach Trump and there is a senate trial then the GOP can call a lot of folks to the stand to testify under oath. My list would include: Schiff, Ciaramella, Chalupa, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Komrads Brennan and Clapper, Comey, Strzok, Page, the Ohrs, McCabe, and the rest of the deep state conspirators.

Also, by the time this is happening, Barr, Huber, and Durham should be coming out with more than a few indictments based on their investigations.

That would be up to Roberts to rule on whether they are relevant.

 

[busybee01]

Dividing a house (the United States of America) as the demos have attempted to do for years now, won't end well for their political careers. The American's are on to it now, and the rebuke is now here.

The sad thing is with the families who won't even come together this Thanksgiving, and it's all because of the division in America now. People have followed the world into the pits of hell over many years looking back, and they are working for Satan without even knowing it anymore or without even caring to escape it anymore. Dragging others down into the pit is Satan's demands of them, and they work to satisfy those demands because of their brainwashing. Their rewards won't be good, yet they care not as long as their current is bringing them a false security, and a lust for all things worldly.

Trump and his supporters are dividing America. Anyone who is not a white male is a target for Republicans Trump is the Satan.

 

[busybee01]

The senate trial will be run by Republican rules. Lindsey can call any witness he wants. Can you imagine the delicious cornucopia of answers from the following witness list: Schiff, Chalupa, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Ciaramella, Komrads Brennan and Clapper, Comey, Strzok, Page, the Ohrs, McCabe, and any other deep state conspirators that plotted a coup against Trump, or as Strzok says the "insurance policy".
Trump is not bullshitting when he says that he wants an impeachment trial in the senate. All the hearsay evidence gets tossed, and we find out about the plots.

Actually, no... Republicans don't want a Senate Trial.

In a Senate Trial, they can call Rudy, Bolton, Pompeo and all the other co-conspirators, and Justice Roberts would have to make a decision RIGHT THEN AND THERE - whether or not they should testify. He'd have no legal ground to stand on to refuse.

So, yeah, I guess you can call Hunter Biden...and then ask him, um, what, exactly that is relevant to whether or not Trump tries to shake down the Ukraine?

Rudy, Bolton, and Pompeo can testify to any non-crime you can list.
There is always the "Sorry Executive Privilege" non-response. So meh.

Questions for Hunter Biden:
1. What exactly did you do as director of Burisma and the $million salary? (nothing)
2. Questions about Burisma's connections to the Soros organization.
3. Questions about Burisma corruption.
4. Questions about the investigation that Joe stopped.
5. Questions abouit what happened after Joe stopped Shokin's investigation.
6. Barr and Durham might have better questions after their investigations, especially if they follow the money trail

Trump didn't try to "shake-down" Ukraine, he asked for an investigation into Burisma as required by law.
Trump would not have gotten any money from the Ukraine, unlike the Bidens.

1. Nothing illegal about it.
2. That cuckoo clock you use for a brain needs winding.
3. Not germane.
4. There was no investigation.
5. Shokin had no investigation and that is why he was fired.
6. Barr and Durham have nothing.

Trump did try to shake down Ukraine. He wanted a investigation into Biden. There were no laws involved.

 

[busybee01]

Rudy, Bolton, and Pompeo can testify to any non-crime you can list.
There is always the "Sorry Executive Privilege" non-response. So meh.

Except that wouldn't apply in a Senate Trial. This is why a Senate Trial will be a disaster for Trump.

Roberts would have to rule on "executive privilege"... and frankly, there's no legal reason for him to uphold it in this case. Nixon fought this fight 50 years ago and lost it.

Questions for Hunter Biden:
1. What exactly did you do as director of Burisma and the $million salary? (nothing)
2. Questions about Burisma's connections to the Soros organization.
3. Questions about Burisma corruption.
4. Questions about the investigation that Joe stopped.
5. Questions abouit what happened after Joe stopped Shokin's investigation.
6. Barr and Durham might have better questions after their investigations, especially if they follow the money trail

1- He acted as a board member advising them on corporate governance practices.
2- George Soros is not hiding under your bed.
3- Why would he know about Bursima's corruption before he got there?
4- There was no active investigation when Shokin was fired.
5- There was no active investigation after Shokin was fired, either.
6- Not really, since the IG is already admitting that Trump's paranoid fantasies about spies are exactly that.

1. Hunter never did anything for the money, his dad did. Hunter had no clue about Ukrainian corporate law. Joe stopped an investigation Soros wanted stopped.
Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

2. Soros and Burisma are connected
Adam Schiff witness Taylor has ties to Burisma think tank, Soros, McCain leaker

3. Almost all of Schiffs witnesses testified that Burisma is still corrupt today (even when Hunter is on the Board)
Democrats' Star Witness Admitted Burisma Should Be Investigated

4. Shokin was fired for investigating Burisma.
Ex-Ukraine prosecutor said he was told to back off probe of Biden-linked firm, files show

1. John Solomon is a kook.

2. More conspiracy theories.

3. That is why Biden threatened to withhold aid. Trump wanted a investigation of Biden not Burisma.

4. Shokin refused to investigate Burisma. That is why he was fired.

 

[The Purge]

It is a shame we can't TRADE to China with the ending of our tariff war JoeB and the commie scum in this country for the people of Hong Kong!

 

[Terri4Trump]

This impeachment is all based on hate and lies and thats why it is failing. There is no actual crime.

It was all planned from the beginning, timed for the election. But something happened on the way to the impeachment: Muller did not indict, and the schocked Dems had nothing to proceed with. So at the last minute "collusion" was dropped as the reason and a phone call is now the new "crime".

Its a sentence is search of a crime, its all hate and lies, and intelligent people understand it.

 

[The Purge]

 

[JoeB131]

Talk about a delusional moron. How loudly are you going to cry when ALL of your witnesses and “evidence” get thrown out because it’s ALL hearsay and thus inadmissible? Apparently the B stands for buffoon. Executive privilege and attorney client privilege still apply despite all the lefts efforts to destroy them.

Privilege doesn't apply when a third person is in the room.

Rudy wasn't acting as an attorney in those cases, anyway.

I have some faith in Durham only because he turned his investigation criminal so quickly after being started. It tells me he has something, and something good. Will it bring down the entire cabal? I have my doubts.

Well, because there's nothing to bring down. The FBI was doing it's job. There really was a Russian effort to subvert our election.

 

[JoeB131]

This impeachment is all based on hate and lies and thats why it is failing. There is no actual crime.

It was all planned from the beginning, timed for the election. But something happened on the way to the impeachment: Muller did not indict, and the schocked Dems had nothing to proceed with. So at the last minute "collusion" was dropped as the reason and a phone call is now the new "crime".

Its a sentence is search of a crime, its all hate and lies, and intelligent people understand it.

More like... Trump got off on a bank robbery charge on a technicality, and then went off and tried to rob the bank next door the next day.

It's like he never learns.

 

[kyzr]

Agree, but look at the bright side. If they impeach Trump and there is a senate trial then the GOP can call a lot of folks to the stand to testify under oath. My list would include: Schiff, Ciaramella, Chalupa, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Komrads Brennan and Clapper, Comey, Strzok, Page, the Ohrs, McCabe, and the rest of the deep state conspirators.

Also, by the time this is happening, Barr, Huber, and Durham should be coming out with more than a few indictments based on their investigations.

I was watching Laura last week when she had a couple of gusts on (I forget their names now) but they all agreed the Senate trial will be nothing like the House, in that there are no witnesses to testify. They simply present the articles of impeachment, and vote on what they have.

That is not to say it will in any way be a success, but from what they were talking about, hardly satisfactory for us Trump supporters other than the fact they won't have the votes to find him guilty and removed from office.

The IG report coming out also has leakers that say again, it's hardly going to be satisfying in any indictments that will actually reveal what these anti-Americans were up to. But who knows?

I have some faith in Durham only because he turned his investigation criminal so quickly after being started. It tells me he has something, and something good. Will it bring down the entire cabal? I have my doubts.

You can watch the Laura video and put the time arrow on about 13:00 minutes.

insolito

Laura's guests are simply wrong. The GOP defense team can call witnesses:
Impeachment Trial Operates Like a Criminal Trial
https://www.history.com/news/what-happens-after-impeachment
"According to Senate rules first established for Johnson’s 1868 impeachment trial, everyone in the Senate chamber is required to keep absolute silence, “on pain of imprisonment,” as the House managers make their case against the president.

The president’s defense team then presents its opening arguments followed by the calling of witnesses. Both sides can call witnesses and cross-examine the opposing party’s witnesses. Senators can be called as witnesses, too, and actually testify standing at their desk in the chamber."

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Well, because there's nothing to bring down. The FBI was doing it's job. There really was a Russian effort to subvert our election.

Effort is the correct word because there is no evidence of success. Anybody who makes their choice of President based on Facebook ads (which I never seen during the time) is somebody that can be swayed by anything.

Was Stroke-off doing his job? How about Page, the woman he was banging? Is this what the FBI is supposed to be doing? What about the recent FBI guy who was caught changing documents related to the FISA warrants? Think he did that out of personal dislike for Trump? Somebody instructed him to do that.

Hopefully it will all come out. I have my doubts. Democrats are professional criminals with ties all over the government; something Trump doesn't have as an outsider.