Poll: Do You Agree With Dr. Rand Paul That Dr. Anthony Fauci Lied to Congress Regarding NIH Funding Gain of Function Research in Wuhan?

[CrusaderFrank]

Gain-of-function research is medical research that alters an organism or disease in a way that increases pathogenesis, transmissibility, or host range. This research is intended to reveal targets to better predict emerging infectious diseases and to develop vaccines and therapeutics.

So you're on team Rand

 

[badger2]

You're in too deep dude... Way too deep

You are shallow and uneducated. Get lost.

 

[Pete7469]

You are shallow and uneducated. Get lost.

He's stupid too.

 

[initforme]

I would never ever believe one word from the man who thought a billion dollars to help the first responders of 9/11 was too much.

 

[otto105]

Since it is only the cytokine storm from the autoimmune over response, it is true that Fauci is negligent for not promoting better life saving treatments, but his main crime is pushing "flattening the curve", when he knew that could not end the epidemic and would instead only make it last longer and kill more.

Sure, ask all those people in the hospitals in Oklahoma from taking a horse parasite medicine.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Sure, ask all those people in the hospitals in Oklahoma from taking a horse parasite medicine.

“Although Dr. Jason McElyea is not an employee of NHS Sequoyah, he is affiliated with a medical staffing group that provides coverage for our emergency room. With that said, Dr. McElyea has not worked at our Sallisaw location in over 2 months. NHS Sequoyah has not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin. This includes not treating any patients for ivermectin overdose,” the hospital said.

“All patients who have visited our emergency room have received medical attention as appropriate. Our hospital has not had to turn away any patients seeking emergency care. We want to reassure our community that our staff is working hard to provide quality healthcare to all patients. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify this issue and as always, we value our community’s support.”

Oklahoma Hospital Refutes Rolling Stone Claim That ERs Are Clogged With Ivermectin Overdoses

In 2014 Rolling Stone magazine published a story about an alleged rape at a fraternity at the University of Virginia.

www.tampafp.com

 

[otto105]

So you're on team Rand

No, team rand is a very stupid place. He's just looking to scapegoat like most republic pols.

 

[Orangecat]

I think Rand Paul is a whiny little *****

Such irony there.

 

[badger2]

Information-compromised reader-prisoners will sooner or later have to decide what they believe (protection-racket theology’s “Hour of Decision”) about this scientific fact: ivermectin physically attaches to SARS-CoV-2. At that precise point, the amount, whether or not it can be considered a medicine or poison, is irrelevant. When that happens, does the communist virus simply pretend not to notice the attachment, or does something else happen? Hydroxychloroquine prevents attachment of the commie virus, one more reader-prisoner problem.

 

[badger2]

So, to oppose Stupidity, which always gets precisely the reality it deserves, the prisoners can see the figure. The stupid will think that the cartoon in Fig. 3 was drawn to deceive them, especially those in the anti-Rand camp:

Icahn Medical School, Mt. Sinai, New York
Fig. 3 Ivermectin Molecule Docked with SARS-CoV-2 Spike

Ivermectin Docks to the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Receptor-binding Domain Attached to ACE2 - PubMed

The ivermectin docking we identified may interfere with the attachment of the spike to the human cell membrane. Clinical trials now underway should determine whether ivermectin is an effective treatment for SARS-Cov2 infection.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Wondering what happened to the criminal referral....

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sure, ask all those people in the hospitals in Oklahoma from taking a horse parasite medicine.

While he is there, he can count the unvaccinated people in the ICU.

 

[badger2]

Sure, ask all those people in the hospitals in Oklahoma from taking a horse parasite medicine.

You are not that well educated, Einstein. Satoshi Omura first used his discovery, ivermectin, on a nematode found in gophers: Heligmosomoides polygyrus. Heligmosomoides thomomyos infects the Camas Pocket Gopher, endemic to Willamette Valley, Oregon. Ivermectin was found on a Japanese golf course, and since, nowhere else in the world.

Your suggested viewing is Caddy Shack, the gopher sequence.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You are not that well educated, Einstein. Satoshi Omura first used his discovery, ivermectin, on a nematode found in gophers: Heligmosomoides polygyrus. Heligmosomoides thomomyos infects the Camas Pocket Gopher, endemic to Willamette Valley, Oregon. Ivermectin was found on a Japanese golf course, and since, nowhere else in the world.

Your suggested viewing is Caddy Shack, the gopher sequence.

Yet it is horse dewormer and has demonstrated ZERO effectiveness against covid.

 

[CowboyTed]

How could it not?
The gain of function research on covid-19 was done at Wuhan and no where else, and Wuhan is where the covid-19 virus first started spreading to humans.
Are you trying to claim it is a coincidence and that the covid-19 virus just happened to jump to humans naturally, exactly when that same jump was being experimented with?

It wasn't, even the expert that Paul Rand said there was Gain of Function clearly said it wasn't in the area of COVID research....

The reason the virus started int he same place of the research is because they investigate there as it is close to where they thought a virus would start...

Is Rand Paul or Dr. Fauci Right About Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan?

Gain-of-function is a research method that involves manipulating pathogens to give them a new aspect, such as making viruses more transmissible or dangerous to humans.

www.newsweek.com

Many leading scientists say there was no gain of function research... Only one is saying there was and he said it has nothing to do with COVID....

People have to stop believing shit they read on facebook... The source for this came from

No evidence Fauci funded 'creation' of COVID-19

Editor’s note, May 17, 2021: When this fact-check was first published in February 2021, PolitiFact’s sources included re

www.politifact.com

 

[otto105]

Information-compromised reader-prisoners will sooner or later have to decide what they believe (protection-racket theology’s “Hour of Decision”) about this scientific fact: ivermectin physically attaches to SARS-CoV-2. At that precise point, the amount, whether or not it can be considered a medicine or poison, is irrelevant. When that happens, does the communist virus simply pretend not to notice the attachment, or does something else happen? Hydroxychloroquine prevents attachment of the commie virus, one more reader-prisoner problem.

Does the FDA agree with your opinion?

Does science?

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Does the FDA agree with your opinion?

Does science?

He posted the freaking link to the NIH publication hosted at PubMed.

It includes:

Results: Ivermectin docked in the region of leucine 91 of the spike and histidine 378 of the ACE2 receptor. The binding energy of ivermectin to the spike-ACE2 complex was -18 kcal/mol and binding constant was 5.8 e-08.


Conclusion: The ivermectin docking we identified may interfere with the attachment of the spike to the human cell membrane. Clinical trials now underway should determine whether ivermectin is an effective treatment for SARS-Cov2 infection.

Ivermectin Docks to the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Receptor-binding Domain Attached to ACE2 - PubMed

The ivermectin docking we identified may interfere with the attachment of the spike to the human cell membrane. Clinical trials now underway should determine whether ivermectin is an effective treatment for SARS-Cov2 infection.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[otto105]

He posted the freaking link to the NIH publication hosted at PubMed.

It includes:

Results: Ivermectin docked in the region of leucine 91 of the spike and histidine 378 of the ACE2 receptor. The binding energy of ivermectin to the spike-ACE2 complex was -18 kcal/mol and binding constant was 5.8 e-08.


Conclusion: The ivermectin docking we identified may interfere with the attachment of the spike to the human cell membrane. Clinical trials now underway should determine whether ivermectin is an effective treatment for SARS-Cov2 infection.

Ivermectin Docks to the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Receptor-binding Domain Attached to ACE2 - PubMed

The ivermectin docking we identified may interfere with the attachment of the spike to the human cell membrane. Clinical trials now underway should determine whether ivermectin is an effective treatment for SARS-Cov2 infection.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Do Not Use Ivermectin for Animals as Treatment for COVID-19 in Humans

 

[Rigby5]

Sure, ask all those people in the hospitals in Oklahoma from taking a horse parasite medicine.

That is silly.
Medication for horses is vastly different than medication intended for humans.

The brand names of Ivermectin for human consumption are commonly available.

{...
May Treat: Acne rosacea

Brand Names: Stromectol · Sklice · Soolantra

Drug Class: Anthelmintic Agents - Macrocyclic Lactones · Dermatological - Rosacea Therapy, Topical · Scabicide and Pediculicide Single Agents
...}

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Do Not Use Ivermectin for Animals as Treatment for COVID-19 in Humans

Your link does not say what you think it does. It says don't self-medicate with ivermectin. It does not dispute anything Badger posted.

It says the study type that Badger posted is commonly used to test effectiveness. It says human trials are needed, as this is promising.

Your link is from April 2020. His is more recent, from October. You link references a completely different study.

Pfffft.