Poll: Do You Agree With Dr. Rand Paul That Dr. Anthony Fauci Lied to Congress Regarding NIH Funding Gain of Function Research in Wuhan?

[basquebromance]

if God can't save us from Covid, my friends, Fauci will!

 

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We’ll document with excerpts Fau Chi on influenza research the year before an epidemic of swine coronavirus introduced into the U.S. from China resulted in loss of 7 million pigs, 10% of annual U.S. pig population.

Installment I
Jun 2012 Fau Chi on Influenza Research

Benefits and risks of influenza research: lessons learned - PubMed

Given the yearly challenge of seasonal influenza and the potential catastrophic consequences of future pandemics, the need for intensive basic and clinical influenza research is unquestionable. Although the fruits of decades of research have enabled dramatic improvements in our ability to...

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’One of the goals of pandemic influenza research is to recognize and anticipate how viruses are evolving in the wild toward a phenotype that is dangerous to humans, thereby staying one step ahead of potential pandemics. In this regard, compelling research questions relevant to global health and pandemic preparedness include determining whether highly pathogenic viruses, such as H5N1, have the ability to mutate and/or reassort with another influenza virus to become readily transmissible by the airborne route to humans.’

Thusfar, the term ‘gain-of-function’ has yet to be used.

 

[badger2]

Because we have already made the spike protein of PEDV available in the Biological Politics thread For comparison to other coronavirus spikes, we next post the excerpt that is pertinent to Fau Chi’s pandemic article, above, and then an excerpt from another Fau Chi classic:

PEDV Coronavirus / China-to-U.S.

Identification of functional progenitor cells in the pulmonary vasculature - PubMed

The pulmonary vasculature comprises a complex network of branching arteries and veins all functioning to reoxygenate the blood for circulation around the body. The cell types of the pulmonary artery are able to respond to changes in oxygen tension in order to match ventilation to perfusion. Stem...

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’Notably, more viruses survived in conventional soybean meal, lysine hydrochloride, choline chloride, vitamin D and pork sausage casings. These results support published data on transboundary risk of PEDV in feed, demonstrate survival of certain viruses in specific feed ingredients (“high risk combinations”) under conditions simulating transport between continents and provide further evidence that contaminated feed ingredients may represent a risk for transport of pathogens at domestic and global levels.

The introduction of porcine Epidemic Diarrhea Virus (PEDV) into the U.S. in 2013 serves as an example of the impact that exotic diseases may have on the U.S. livestock industry. Although PEDV is not an OIE notifiable disease, the introduction into the U.S. resulted in loss of approximately 7 million pigs or 10% of the annual pig population. Furthermore, given the fact that the original PEDV strain detected in the U.S. shared 99.7%-99.8% nucleotide identity with a Chinese PEDV actively circulating in China raised the question of whether contaminated feed could have served as a vehicle for the initial vrial entry into the U.S. swine population.

By using a trans-Pacific transportation model....we showed that PEDV survived the 37-day trip from Beijing to Des Moines in five key ingredients used to formulate porcine rations, including soybean meal (organic and conventional), vitamin D, lysine hydrochloride and choline chloride, with some ingredients providing the ideal matrix for survival of select viruses.’

 

[badger2]

The actual URL for the study above, from Kansas, South Dakota, and Minnesota is this one:

Modeling the transboundary risk of feed ingredients contaminated with porcine epidemic diarrhea virus - PubMed

These results demonstrate the ability of PEDV to survive in a subset of feed ingredients using a model simulating shipment from China to the US. This is proof of concept suggesting that contaminated feed ingredients could serve as transboundary risk factors for PEDV, along with the...

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Forthcoming, there was a PEDV variant that arose with a deletion up to, though not including position 417. This is a clue to the lysine in the feed components report (above), because SARS-CoV-2 spike mutation is lysine: K417N/T.

 

[badger2]

We’ll again review, though it looks as if the term ‘gain-of-function’ was not being used in 2012. It would have been disturbingly easy, deliberate or not, for the Chinese to spike porcine rations before shipping, and ebola vaccine is based on a cow shipped from Kansas to Indiana.

Compilation of the military connections to SARS, MERS, etc. is underway. Before excerpting from Fau Chi again, the deletion in a PEDV variant:

May 2021 China / Pseudorabies

Identification of four insertion sites for foreign genes in a pseudorabies virus vector - PubMed

This study focuses on identification of suitable sites for insertion of foreign genes in PRV genome, which laids a foundation for future development of recombinant PRV vaccines.

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Returning to PEDV later to compare spikes of SARS-Cov-2, mink, MERS-Cov, etc., these two Fau Chi articles show the porcine connection:

Jun 2009 The Persistent Legacy of the 1918 Influenza Virus

The persistent legacy of the 1918 influenza virus - PubMed

The persistent legacy of the 1918 influenza virus

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’....It is not generally appreciated that descendants of the H1N1 influenza A virus that caused the catastrophic and historic pandemic of 1918-1919 have persisted in humans for more than 90 years and have continued to contribute their genes to new viruses, causing new pandemics, epidemics and epizootics. The current international pandemic caused by a novel influenza A (H1N1) virus derived from two unrelated swine viruses, one of them a derivative of the 1918 human virus, adds to the complexity of this persistent progenitor virus, its descendants, and its several lineages.’

Fau Chi linked, The Story Behind COVID-19 Vaccines, Science 372: 109

The story behind COVID-19 vaccines - PubMed

The story behind COVID-19 vaccines

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Relating to the ‘fentanyl mutation’ of SARS-CoV-2 at position 417, Fau does mention fentanyl in Aug 2019, prompting the question as to how many times during the Chauvin trial Floyd’s infection was mentioned, it at all.

Opioids and Infectious Diseases

Opioids and Infectious Diseases: A Converging Public Health Crisis - PubMed

A converging public health crisis is emerging because the opioid epidemic is fueling a surge in infectious diseases, such as human immunodeficiency virus infection with or without AIDS, the viral hepatitides, infective endocarditis, and skin and soft-tissue infections. An integrated strategy is...

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’....Additionally, growing evidence has shown that certain opioids (morphine and fentanyl) have putative effects on both the innate and adaptive immune systems, dependent on drug dosage and duration of delivery. These effects have been shown to impact the pathogenesis of HIV and HCV infections in vitro and in animal models and may lead to higher rates of infections, such as pneumococcal diseases. However, a causal relationship between opioid use and immunosuppression has not been clearly established by definitive clinical trials.’

 

[Independent thinker]

Their testy exchange, where each accused the other of lying is here.



It would be helpful to watch the whole thing in order to cast an informed vote.

Basically, Rand Paul uses Fauci's own testimony, a paper from one of the Wuhan virologists stating that the research was being funded by NIH, and the NIH's own definition of "gain of function" to make the case that Fauci lied.

Fauci defended himself by saying that Dr. Paul does not know what he is talking about and he is the one who is lying (effectively, "nuh-uh").

Your vote will be publicly viewable, and you cannot change your vote.

The truth is, while Fauci may or may not have outright lied, he certainly was very evasive and not forthcoming and totally truthful.

 

[FA_Q2]

The truth is, while Fauci may or may not have outright lied, he certainly was very evasive and not forthcoming and totally truthful.

What's the difference?

I tire of this idea that you can be outright deceitful and still try and claim that you did not lie. While there is a line in the sand when it comes to legal accountability because there must be, no one ever runs their life in that manner. If you tell me the truth to the letter but did so in a deceitful way then you lied, end of story.

 

[woodwork201]

The truth is, while Fauci may or may not have outright lied, he certainly was very evasive and not forthcoming and totally truthful.

While Fauci was very evasive, not forthcoming, and not totally truthful, he certainly also lied to Congress.

 

[badger2]

Fau Chi knew as early as 1999 the connection between his striving for HIV vaccine and coronaviruses:
1999 Human Enteric Coronavirus (HEC) CVLPs and HIV-AIDS

Adaptation of human enteric coronavirus to growth in cell lines - PubMed

We conclude that HEC is a human coronavirus that is antigenically unrelated to 0C43 and 229E viruses. Growth of HEC in readily available cell lines should aid in elucidating its role as a pathogen in human diarrheal illnesses.

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’....mosquito cell line C6/36 from Aedea albopictus....coronavirus-like particles (CVLPs) in stools of HIV-infected patients have been noted. We surveyed a group of these patients and found that some of them had high titers of Ig and Im antibody to HEC.’

 

[badger2]

One needs to go further back to see why it’s likely Fau Chi gets the COVID-19 mutation, D614G, backwards in his video. It looks like a classic Freudian slip. This mutation spells double trouble for Fau, because it not only links to ebola vaccine, it also links to SARS-CoV reservoir, the palm civet.

Fau flubs up at timepoint 6


The Palm Civet link to the SARS-CoV-2 Mutation D614G

The relevant report is from Harvard Medical School (among others; see “author information”) for SARS-CoV:

Receptor and viral determinants of SARS-coronavirus adaptation to human ACE2 - PubMed

Human angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) is a functional receptor for SARS coronavirus (SARS-CoV). Here we identify the SARS-CoV spike (S)-protein-binding site on ACE2. We also compare S proteins of SARS-CoV isolated during the 2002-2003 SARS outbreak and during the much less severe...

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‘....Fig. 7C compares the ability of eight receptor binding domain (RBD) variants to bind human and civet ACE2, as well as to the chimeric molecules assayed in Fig. 7A and to a point-mutation variant of palm civet ACE2, in which aspartic acid 354 was altered to a glycine present in human ACE2.’

At the time the above video was produced, Fau Chi already knew that SARS-CoV-2 mutation D614G linked to SARS-CoV and palm civets, circa 2005.

 

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Timepoint 6:45

 

[Natural Citizen]

Fauci needs to be tried for crimes against humanity.

And those in media and in political office who ran interference for him should also be held accountable.

Unfortunately, that discussion won't be had in the mainstream until Trump gets back in the mix and questions begin to arise with regard to whether Operation Warp Speed was more relevant to an operation based on foreknowledge.

And that question will be brought up in the mainstream, make no mistake about that.

A place for everything and everything in its place kind of deal.

Can't wait to see the look on his face when it does. Heh heh.

In time...

 

[CowboyTed]

While Fauci was very evasive, not forthcoming, and not totally truthful, he certainly also lied to Congress.

I don't see that...

Rand Paul was trying to paint a picture the "Gain of Function" research paid for tby the US is what cause COVID pandemic...

That is blatantly not true... Even the sources Paul is using say that is not in any way true...

 

[badger2]

I don't see that...

Rand Paul was trying to paint a picture the "Gain of Function" research paid for tby the US is what cause COVID pandemic...

That is blatantly not true... Even the sources Paul is using say that is not in any way true...

Did Fau Chi make a mistake in his video, or did he not? What specific sources? How can your “sources” claim it’s not in any way true, when the biology of the commie virus is still far from sufficiently documented? Where are your citations/links for your claims? The Harvard study just posted. Is it GOF, or not? Will Fau skirt the civet connection in the Harvard study, or answer to it? Will Fau, in public, admit that his video mistake links to civets?

 

[Rigby5]

I don't see that...

Rand Paul was trying to paint a picture the "Gain of Function" research paid for tby the US is what cause COVID pandemic...

That is blatantly not true... Even the sources Paul is using say that is not in any way true...

How could it not?
The gain of function research on covid-19 was done at Wuhan and no where else, and Wuhan is where the covid-19 virus first started spreading to humans.
Are you trying to claim it is a coincidence and that the covid-19 virus just happened to jump to humans naturally, exactly when that same jump was being experimented with?

 

[otto105]

Fauci needs to be tried for crimes against humanity.

And those in media and in political office who ran interference for him should also be held accountable.

Unfortunately, that discussion won't be had in the mainstream until Trump gets back in the mix and questions begin to arise with regard to whether Operation Warp Speed was more relevant to an operation based on foreknowledge.

And that question will be brought up in the mainstream, make no mistake about that.

A place for everything and everything in its place kind of deal.

Can't wait to see the look on his face when it does. Heh heh.

In time...

And what would those crimes be? Not backing a horse parasite medicine…

 

[Rigby5]

And what would those crimes be? Not backing a horse parasite medicine…

Since it is only the cytokine storm from the autoimmune over response, it is true that Fauci is negligent for not promoting better life saving treatments, but his main crime is pushing "flattening the curve", when he knew that could not end the epidemic and would instead only make it last longer and kill more.

 

[Slade3200]

One needs to go further back to see why it’s likely Fau Chi gets the COVID-19 mutation, D614G, backwards in his video. It looks like a classic Freudian slip. This mutation spells double trouble for Fau, because it not only links to ebola vaccine, it also links to SARS-CoV reservoir, the palm civet.

Fau flubs up at timepoint 6


The Palm Civet link to the SARS-CoV-2 Mutation D614G

The relevant report is from Harvard Medical School (among others; see “author information”) for SARS-CoV:

Receptor and viral determinants of SARS-coronavirus adaptation to human ACE2 - PubMed

Human angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) is a functional receptor for SARS coronavirus (SARS-CoV). Here we identify the SARS-CoV spike (S)-protein-binding site on ACE2. We also compare S proteins of SARS-CoV isolated during the 2002-2003 SARS outbreak and during the much less severe...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

‘....Fig. 7C compares the ability of eight receptor binding domain (RBD) variants to bind human and civet ACE2, as well as to the chimeric molecules assayed in Fig. 7A and to a point-mutation variant of palm civet ACE2, in which aspartic acid 354 was altered to a glycine present in human ACE2.’

At the time the above video was produced, Fau Chi already knew that SARS-CoV-2 mutation D614G linked to SARS-CoV and palm civets, circa 2005.

You're in too deep dude... Way too deep

 

[Snouter]

And what would those crimes be? Not backing a horse parasite medicine…

Fauci financed the Chinese lab that came up with the Fauci Flu with US taxpayer dollars you retarded imbecile. Then Fauci insisted human immune systems and generally accepted preventatives and cures are no match for his Fauci Flu and the multitude of Fauci Flu "variants" on the way. Has FRAUDI ever mentioned D3 and Zinc in relation to immune system response to viruses? Or is in bed with the jewish CEO controlled big pharma promoting multiple shots of DNA altering bullshit and receiving a kickback (a percentage of the taxpayer supported take)? Fauci really needs to get back to his 1980 research in how homosexual anal sex spreads a disease that only afflicts queers and dark people (the dark skin prevents D3 absorption).