schmidlap
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Your ideological tirade aside, can you cite any legitimate epidemiological experts who concur with Randy's accusation that Dr Fauci lied?
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Poll: Do You Agree With Dr. Rand Paul That Dr. Anthony Fauci Lied to Congress Regarding NIH Funding Gain of Function Research in Wuhan?
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DrLove
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Yep, they can't put a dent in Biden's approval rating so Dr Fauci is their whipping boy alternative. R's MUST HAVE BOGEYMAN to blame for Donnie's ineptitude.That's all that poll reveals.
Bill Straub: Dr. Fauci is fall-back target for Republican ire, since they can't sink Biden's approval rating - NKyTribune
Unable thus far to chip into President Biden’s popularity – the RealClear Politics composite places his approval at just short of 54 percent – and reeling as a consequence of refusing to support an investigation — for purely self-serving political reasons — into the Jan. 6 insurrection against...
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It isn't working - The national polling suggests about a 3-1 approval rating for Fauci.. exactly the opposite of this tiny and meaningless poll.
More Americans approve of Fauci's handling of coronavirus than Trump's, new poll finds
Trump suggested he could fire Dr. Anthony Fauci, as voters overwhelmingly approve of how the doctor is handling the coronavirus pandemic.
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It's a good question.Your ideological tirade aside, can you cite any legitimate epidemiological experts who concur with Randy's accusation that Dr Fauci lied?
Deliberately lying is a high standard to meet, but regardless of that issue...
"I will be sending a letter to Department of Justice asking for a criminal referral because he has lied to Congress. We have scientists that were lined up by the dozens to say that the research he was funding was gain-of-function," Paul announced.
However, Paul told "The Story" that he is pessimistic that the DOJ will act on his referral.
So I guess you will have to wait for that list.
There is also another example of a microbiologist who disputes Fauci over here...
Rand Paul: I'm Referring Fauci For Criminal Charges, and Here's the Proof He Lied to Congress
Created a virus, did not care if it caused a pandemic, invested heavily in the cure. And you dolts felt there were issues with Kavanaugh and Trump
www.usmessageboard.com
trump humpers are funny!Fauci downplayed the virus. In feb 2020 he published an article in JAMA stating the virus would essentially be a bad flu. Up until mid March, even a couple days before his infamous senate speech, Fauci was still going on tv telling Americans not to worry about this virus. Who do you think trump got his info from? FAUCI. So it’s okay for fauci to say the same things as trump at the same time, but trump isn’t allowed to repeat what his NIH is telling him?
Church of Fauci for you folks.
It's a good question.
Deliberately lying is a high standard to meet, but regardless of that issue...
"I will be sending a letter to Department of Justice asking for a criminal referral because he has lied to Congress. We have scientists that were lined up by the dozens to say that the research he was funding was gain-of-function," Paul announced.
However, Paul told "The Story" that he is pessimistic that the DOJ will act on his referral.
So I guess you will have to wait for that list.
There is also another example of a microbiologist who disputes Fauci over here...
Rand Paul: I'm Referring Fauci For Criminal Charges, and Here's the Proof He Lied to Congress
Created a virus, did not care if it caused a pandemic, invested heavily in the cure. And you dolts felt there were issues with Kavanaugh and Trump
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/dr-anthony-faucis-thoughts-in-the-early-days-of-pandemic-revealed-in-4000-released-emails/news-story/10a19d5b20b11fe5371581690c4f3b4a
Speaking with MSNBC’s Deadline, Dr Fauci said his emails had been “taken out of context” and claimed that Donald Trump supporters “resent” him because they do not “understand” science.
“There is no doubt that there are people out there who, for one reason or another, resent me for what I did in the last administration, which was not anything that was anti-Trump at all,” he said. “It was just trying to get the right information, to try and get the right data. What they didn’t seem to understand, I guess that it is understandable that they didn’t understand it, is that science is a dynamic process.
“So something that you know in January, you make a recommendation or a comment about it, but as you get more and more information, the information leads you to change because that is what science is, it is a self-correcting process,” he said. “That is what I was trying to do, always tell the truth on the basis of what the data is. It was never deliberately something against the president.”
trump is a serial liar, who even though he was told the seriousness of the airborne disease, downplayed it and kept telling the public that it was going to miraculously go away.
77% believe he lied. Whether true or false, this is disturbing.
sakinago
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Wow, nice comeback. You’re so intellectually astute. How can we even compete?trump humpers are funny!
Haven’t yet looked into changes of authorship, though OP’s article shows Zheng-li Shi was filling the same role at Wuhan that Daszak was at Eco Health Alliance. Which means she may not have been actually doing any work that would involve GOF (see in the article ‘About the Authors’): another author is from Dali, Yunnan, and this is the author closest to the viruses in nature, and is also the institute that has a publication history with Daszak.I believe this was one of the articles Paul was referring too. I think there’s also a nature article.
Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus
Author summary Increasing evidence has been gathered to support the bat origin of SARS coronavirus (SARS-CoV) in the past decade. However, none of the currently known bat SARSr-CoVs is thought to be the direct ancestor of SARS-CoV. Herein, we report the identification of a diverse group of bat...journals.plos.org
Here’s that nature article that was referenced in the Fauci emails. The whole “read this article and you will have tasks to complete”.
Also, an interesting change in authorship in may of 2020. Has anyone looked into that?
A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence - Nature Medicine
Ralph Baric, Vineet Menachery and colleagues characterize a SARS-like coronavirus circulating in Chinese horseshoe bats to determine its potential to infect primary human airway epithelial cells, cause disease in mice and respond to available therapeutics.www.nature.com
Unfortunately, OP’s and Paul’s article was sampling viruses in a cave near Kunming, which automatically implicates the nasty Flower and Animal market at Kunming, because traders would be affecting the ability of the virus to do gof in humans, simply because these people were going into the jungle to capture animals for sale, ripping orchids from their habitat, etc. But Zheng-li is the one who got her hands on SARS-CoV-2’s closest relative, RaTG13 from the Mojiang mine, Yunnan, which is further south of Kunming. This is where deaths from ‘pneumonia’ were recorded in the miners.
Therefore, concentrating on the reservoir, Rhinolophus and Zheng-li’s precise work should be more productive for the invvestigation.
No, your issue should be that your OP article has problems, and that’s the article that the Kentucky Senator is using. Suggested Listening: Toad Wet Sprocket: Dig Deeper, Pork Soda.What the heck is wrong with you.
If you don't see a link here, posted less than 20 minutes after you requested one, you have issues.
Poll: Do You Agree With Dr. Rand Paul That Dr. Anthony Fauci Lied to Congress Regarding NIH Funding Gain of Function Research in Wuhan?
https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741 Is someone here questioning the fact that Tony Fauci was a strong supporter of the covid virus research in Wuhan and other gain of function bio hazardous cell engineering for...
Now where is your source? Quit dodging and playing games.
A rock would make you look bad....Wow, nice comeback. You’re so intellectually astute. How can we even compete?
sakinago
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A rock would make you look bad....
Not buying Fau Chi’s fairy tale. They knew tons.https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/dr-anthony-faucis-thoughts-in-the-early-days-of-pandemic-revealed-in-4000-released-emails/news-story/10a19d5b20b11fe5371581690c4f3b4a
Speaking with MSNBC’s Deadline, Dr Fauci said his emails had been “taken out of context” and claimed that Donald Trump supporters “resent” him because they do not “understand” science.
“There is no doubt that there are people out there who, for one reason or another, resent me for what I did in the last administration, which was not anything that was anti-Trump at all,” he said. “It was just trying to get the right information, to try and get the right data. What they didn’t seem to understand, I guess that it is understandable that they didn’t understand it, is that science is a dynamic process.
“So something that you know in January, you make a recommendation or a comment about it, but as you get more and more information, the information leads you to change because that is what science is, it is a self-correcting process,” he said. “That is what I was trying to do, always tell the truth on the basis of what the data is. It was never deliberately something against the president.”
trump is a serial liar, who even though he was told the seriousness of the airborne disease, downplayed it and kept telling the public that it was going to miraculously go away.
So post #468 questions the validity of OP’s article, though does not dismiss the premise. That is why OP should understand that to construct a solid argument, we have to specifically focus on the white-boned commie virologist who has gotten closest to SARS-CoV-2 than most other H. sapiens.
For a rebuttal on the following, see Jeremy R. Hammond.
Fau Chi and Moderna
For a rebuttal on the following, see Jeremy R. Hammond.
Fau Chi and Moderna
Lesh
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Ya know what Paul's expert said?It's a good question.
Deliberately lying is a high standard to meet, but regardless of that issue...
"I will be sending a letter to Department of Justice asking for a criminal referral because he has lied to Congress. We have scientists that were lined up by the dozens to say that the research he was funding was gain-of-function," Paul announced.
However, Paul told "The Story" that he is pessimistic that the DOJ will act on his referral.
So I guess you will have to wait for that list.
There is also another example of a microbiologist who disputes Fauci over here...
Rand Paul: I'm Referring Fauci For Criminal Charges, and Here's the Proof He Lied to Congress
Created a virus, did not care if it caused a pandemic, invested heavily in the cure. And you dolts felt there were issues with Kavanaugh and Trump
He said that it is virtually impossible that the covid 19 virus was engineered in a lab. He takes issue with G of F definition but notes that G of F had nothing to do with the virus
Ohhh...
Hammond on Fau Chi and Gates
‘....they knew their headline was false.’
‘....they knew their headline was false.’
Eric Arthur Blair
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No epidemiological experts required, Skinflap.Your ideological tirade aside, can you cite any legitimate epidemiological experts who concur with Randy's accusation that Dr Fauci lied?
Fauci, the "Godfather of Gain of Function" research confirms through emails and previous 2012 statements
that he was fully aware and supportive of US funding of Wuhan research labs that developed
"gain of function" viruses by manipulating various genes from wild animals.
Apparently you are one of those people that think kindly old Dr. Fauci can do no wrong.
Sucks to be a dupe. Be sure not to ignore the video.
Hammond on Fau Chi and Gates
‘....they knew their headline was false.’
Yes, Fauci and Gates Do Have Ties to COVID-19 Vaccine Maker
A USA Today headline falsely claiming Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates have “no ties” to Moderna is illustrative of a major problem with our media.
www.jeremyrhammond.com
sartre play
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Have no science degree. Do lean towards belief in some one with 50 years in the virus field over an eye doctor 's opinion.
7 Jul 2020 NIH Owns Half of Moderna Vaccine
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New Docs: NIH Owns Half of Moderna Vaccine
New documents suggest that the National Institute of Health (NIH) owns half the key patent for Moderna’s controversial COVID vaccine and could collect half the royalties. In addition, four NIH scientists have filed their own patent application allowing them royalties as co-inventors. These rules...
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7 Jul 2020 NIH Owns Half of Moderna Vaccine
New Docs: NIH Owns Half of Moderna Vaccine
New documents suggest that the National Institute of Health (NIH) owns half the key patent for Moderna’s controversial COVID vaccine and could collect half the royalties. In addition, four NIH scientists have filed their own patent application allowing them royalties as co-inventors. These rules...
The experience would also include experience in deception-reinforced job security.Have no science degree. Do lean towards belief in some one with 50 years in the virus field over an eye doctor 's opinion.
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