POLL: Are USMB Trump supporters okay with this plan?

[The Duke]

Just like Reagan.
Teabaggers want a free-for-all on educating America's school children.......and it shows.
Indoctrinated, dumbasses is what Reagan wanted too.

1982​

In his State of the Union speech, President Ronald Reagan calls for the end of the Department of Education. Reagan says he believes that decisions about education should be made at the local level and that the federal government should play only a minor role in the nation’s schools. The speech stirs a debate in Congress. In the end, the department is funded, although at lower levels than in the past.

It isn't.
But neither are

• Department of Agriculture (USDA)
• Department of Commerce (DOC)
• Department of Defense (DOD)
• Department of Education.
• Department of Energy (DOE)
• Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)
• Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
• Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)

Under Article II of the Constitution, the President is responsible for the execution and enforcement of the laws created by Congress. Fifteen executive departments — each led by an appointed member of the President’s Cabinet — carry out the day-to-day administration of the federal government.

SO.......by all means let's get rid of education, period.
It's working so well.............even with it, people are STUPID.

Hey guy! Do you know the history of the Dept. of Education?

 

[d0gbreath]

Since The Donald will never again see a day one, his point is moot.

 

[The Duke]

Since The Donald will never again see a day one, his point is moot.

He sees Day one every A.M. in Mac's head.

 

[JoeB131]

Ofcourse Joe loves the public Ed system, having all the children in centralized indoctrination centers allows easy access

Actually, I think we need a lot of education reform. I think we need to limit the ability of teacher unions to protect bad teachers. And the idiocy of spending more on special ed kids than we spend on the kids who are going to eventually become functioning members of society is a bit silly.

But all that said... vouchers aren't a solution.

 

[JoeB131]

We also shouldn't teach a boy that he can be a girl and vice-versa. There is that too.

I am going to ask the question I ask every transphobic person... Do you actually know any trans people and have asked them when they realized they were trans?

What you want is to teach more of the fake science to everyone to get them onboard. Indoctrination is the goal. You are already lost, but it would be nice to put a damper on it before we lose the entire country.

Uh, for the record, proud product of Catholic Education, which is why I have such an intense hatred of organized religion. And I mean old school Catholic when you had psycho frustrated lesbians hit you with rulers because they hated Children they could never have.

I am lucky to have been cis-gendered and heterosexual, because those people would have done some damage, otherwise.

What results? There are more highly indoctrinated folks in blue states. We all know that. We also know that a college educated barista is no more valuable to our society than a plumber with a high school diploma, in fact, with the extreme doctrination that is going on in our colleges, the barista could be far less valuable despite spending an untold fortune on a useless degree. Ironically, it is the barista that wants the plumber to pick up part of the bill for his/her college education/indoctrination.

You avoid the point, as usual. Why is it your part of the country (which would probably be a third world country had you won the Civil War) has the lowest number of college grad and the lowest number of high school graduates.

You get on here every day about why all these northerners want to move south, but what you don't say is who is inviting them. It's all these companies that moved down to Jesusland to get the inbred labor because Cleetus and Billy-bob don't want no union, and then realize that Cleetus and Billy-bob are morons because of generations of inbreeding. Or as Tucker Carlson's producer called you "A bunch of Cousin fuckers".

Then they have to lure people down from the North to keep things running.

 

[BackAgain]

Pfft. Just scuttle the fucking Department of Education, outright.

 

[JoeB131]

I think there are quite a few parents who arent super happy about the school doing something like this without their knowledge. That has little to do with the "trans" issue. The school shouldn't be doing anything remotely similar to this without the parent's knowledge and consent.

I guess not. Doesn't mean they shouldn't.

Kids will tell their teachers things they would never tell their parents, that's why teacher's need to get the equivlent of a Master's degree in how to handle these kinds of problems.

"gender confirming care" Lol. You're either xx or xy. What a bunch of depraved reprobate loons.

And how many Trans people have you sat down with and had a talk with? I would guess.. none.

Nice sarcasm -

Direct Payment or Home school would mean accountability.
Accountability always improves things.
You know that a well-educated populace would mean a quick end to your party.

Go back to the map I posted earlier.

The higher the average education level in a state, the more likely it is to vote Blue.

 

[whitehall]

A "plan" can be interpreted a dozen ways and it might evolve once it hits the real world. Reality is something else. Lefties might want to ignore it but the real world we live in isn't doing too well. Biden's plan for a brave new green world is an abject failure. Deal with it before you consider what ever Trump has to say.

 

[BrokeLoser]

See your point... If they had to actually do find a 'Marxist' in education, I would love to see how they would search...

Then when they find one, we accuse one... The trial would be very interesting...

We can start by rounding these filthy fucks up and tossing them in concentration camps.

Nonbinary teacher boasts on changing students' genders without parents knowing: 'They need protection'

A nonbinary California teacher admitted to socially transitioning students without parents' knowledge in an interview with the New York Times.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

The former President and current presidential candidate promises to do the following, and I'd like to know how his supporters feel about it:

"On Day One, we will begin to find and remove the radical zealots and Marxists who have infiltrated the federal Department of Education. And that also includes others, and you know who you are. Because we're not going to allow anybody to hurt our children. Joe Biden has given them unchecked power. I will have them fired and escorted from the building."

If you agree with this, I'd ask:

• Who is to decide who the "radical zealots and Marxists" are?
• What should the criteria for this be, exactly?
• Is it okay with you that they are fired with no due process?
• What do you think of "that also includes others, and you know who you are"? Does that sound a little vague to you?
• Does the thought of federal agents escorting Americans who have broken no laws out of a building sit okay with you?
• Do you feel this is a Constitutional idea?
• Is a government this aggressive, arbitrary and punitive a good example to set for American children?

Perhaps you can provide some clear, direct and honest responses after you're through trying to deflect with the predictable personal insults and name-calling (that's okay, I'm used to it, and it's always a good sign).

Really

You authoritarian nazi left wing faggots are asking what's the metric and who gets to decide

Lol.
Holy shit

 

[Couchpotato]

I guess not. Doesn't mean they shouldn't.

Kids will tell their teachers things they would never tell their parents, that's why teacher's need to get the equivlent of a Master's degree in how to handle these kinds of problems.

If a child is going through something this significant in their life neither the teacher or the school administration should be allowed to keep that from the parent. For the safety of the child not to mention the fact that it's not in the school's or the teachers preview to decide what the PARENT of the child should know. If a child was bullying or showing signs of some other mental illness we would never even consider not telling the parents. If the school or the teacher believes there is some issue at home they should contact CPS. That's what they are there for. The teachers job is to teach whatever they subject they teach. Not their job to decide what is or isnt appropriate for an individual child. That's the parent's responsibility.

And how many Trans people have you sat down with and had a talk with? I would guess.. none.

I don't need to sit down with a trans person to know that a child (or anyone) who thinks they are the opposite sex is a child in crisis and keeping that information from their parents is not the solution. Are you arguing that a child who thinks they are trans isn't a child who's going through a significant event? Are you arguing that they don't need support from everyone? If a teacher thought a child was suffering from some form of psychosis should they decide whether to tell the parent or not? What other information do you think teachers have the right to keep from parents? The answer is none. There is nothing about my child that a teacher should be keeping from me. I'm responsible for my kids therefore I have a right to know anything and everything about them. When my kids move into the teachers home and they are footing the bills they can make those decisions. Until then they need to stay in their lane.

Go back to the map I posted earlier.

The higher the average education level in a state, the more likely it is to vote Blue.

So. Just because you attended a college doesn't make you intelligent or able to ferret out when a political party is running you. The fact that you don't think the DNC is running you tells me all I need to know.

 

[Clipper]

Authoritarians make their own rules, judge & jury.

And these people claim to be pro-Constitution. Funny.

if they sign a loyalty oath to scumbag Trump they can keep their jobs.

 

[g5000]

"On Day One, we will begin to find and remove the radical zealots and Marxists who have infiltrated the federal Department of Education. And that also includes others, and you know who you are.

"I have here in my hand a list of two hundred and five people that were known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party."

 

[g5000]

Fuck, let's go one better. Let's get rid of public education, and then return the tax dollars to the people. And the people who have kids can pay to have their kids educated or home school them.

Yes, the children of MAGAtards would be better served being taught the world is only 6,000 years old and that men walked with dinosaurs and the Earth is flat.

 

[Lastamender]

The former President and current presidential candidate promises to do the following, and I'd like to know how his supporters feel about it:

"On Day One, we will begin to find and remove the radical zealots and Marxists who have infiltrated the federal Department of Education. And that also includes others, and you know who you are. Because we're not going to allow anybody to hurt our children. Joe Biden has given them unchecked power. I will have them fired and escorted from the building."

If you agree with this, I'd ask:

• Who is to decide who the "radical zealots and Marxists" are?
• What should the criteria for this be, exactly?
• Is it okay with you that they are fired with no due process?
• What do you think of "that also includes others, and you know who you are"? Does that sound a little vague to you?
• Does the thought of federal agents escorting Americans who have broken no laws out of a building sit okay with you?
• Do you feel this is a Constitutional idea?
• Is a government this aggressive, arbitrary and punitive a good example to set for American children?

Perhaps you can provide some clear, direct and honest responses after you're through trying to deflect with the predictable personal insults and name-calling (that's okay, I'm used to it, and it's always a good sign).

Why don't you sit on that "poll"?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I'll do one better.

Abolish the entire Dept of Ed at the federal level.

Return education to the states and the localities as it should be.

Done. The end.

And the neo-fascist right’s war on facts, truth, and education continues.

This is further proof that Republicans are incapable of sound, responsible governance.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This is a far better plan.

There is no value added by the Fed Dept of Ed and people are not being hunted down and fired based on the biases of the POTUS.

Wrong.

It’s a ‘plan’ to create a conservative Dark Age.

 

[lennypartiv]

Authoritarians make their own rules, judge & jury.

And these people claim to be pro-Constitution. Funny.

You're obviously another liberal who doesn't want our education system fixed.

 

[JoeB131]

If a child is going through something this significant in their life neither the teacher or the school administration should be allowed to keep that from the parent. For the safety of the child not to mention the fact that it's not in the school's or the teachers preview to decide what the PARENT of the child should know. If a child was bullying or showing signs of some other mental illness we would never even consider not telling the parents. If the school or the teacher believes there is some issue at home they should contact CPS. That's what they are there for. The teachers job is to teach whatever they subject they teach. Not their job to decide what is or isnt appropriate for an individual child. That's the parent's responsibility.

I would say that is the ideal. But not in all cases. If you know that the kid is gay and his parents are screaming homophobic Christian assholes, you certainly don't out the kid to the parents. That would be putting the child's life in danger.

I don't need to sit down with a trans person to know that a child (or anyone) who thinks they are the opposite sex is a child in crisis and keeping that information from their parents is not the solution. ... If a teacher thought a child was suffering from some form of psychosis should they decide whether to tell the parent or not? W

Gender identity isn't a psychosis. Argument fail.

So. Just because you attended a college doesn't make you intelligent or able to ferret out when a political party is running you. The fact that you don't think the DNC is running you tells me all I need to know.

Actually, up until 2008 or so, I voted Republican. And then after 8 years of Geo. W. Stupid's brilliant leadership, I found myself with a busted 401K, and underwater mortgage and a 25% reduction in pay.

The thing is, I did well under Clinton, even though I didn't like him. I did okay under Obama. Under Bush, the hits just kept coming because the guy kept finding ways to fuck things up.

 

[YoursTruly]

The former President and current presidential candidate promises to do the following, and I'd like to know how his supporters feel about it:

"On Day One, we will begin to find and remove the radical zealots and Marxists who have infiltrated the federal Department of Education. And that also includes others, and you know who you are. Because we're not going to allow anybody to hurt our children. Joe Biden has given them unchecked power. I will have them fired and escorted from the building."

If you agree with this, I'd ask:

• Who is to decide who the "radical zealots and Marxists" are?
• What should the criteria for this be, exactly?
• Is it okay with you that they are fired with no due process?
• What do you think of "that also includes others, and you know who you are"? Does that sound a little vague to you?
• Does the thought of federal agents escorting Americans who have broken no laws out of a building sit okay with you?
• Do you feel this is a Constitutional idea?
• Is a government this aggressive, arbitrary and punitive a good example to set for American children?

Perhaps you can provide some clear, direct and honest responses after you're through trying to deflect with the predictable personal insults and name-calling (that's okay, I'm used to it, and it's always a good sign).

Trumps just playing Trump. His promises are meaningless to anyone with two braincells. Anyone still believing Trump, after all the lies he's told, should seek help.

Example: FISA 702. He complained about being spied on during his 2016 campaign. And within the year, reauthorized the deep state to spy on Americans without a warrant.